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Never trust a spectacles wearer who peers over their glasses sitting halfway down their nose.
Baz Originally Posted by cologne 1: Yogi, I have a pair of varifocals, but they drive me to distraction. When I'm in a supermarket I keep moving my head up and down like some demented chicken. As I speak, I'm wearing my purple see while I drive and PC glasses. I really like them, but I can't just pick up my book and read, so I have to go onto some weirdo things that do everything, but I hate them and they don't suit me. LOL... I know what you mean about *demented chicken* bit with the varifocals... [ more ]
Yogi19 Cologne, my mum couldn't get used to varifocals and went back to wearing bifocals. I think I'm okay with mine because my middle son used to work in the optical industry and tutored me in the correct way to wear them. The trick is to move your eyes, not your head. [ more ]
cologne 1 Yogi, I have a pair of varifocals, but they drive me to distraction. When I'm in a supermarket I keep moving my head up and down like some demented chicken. As I speak, I'm wearing my purple see while I drive and PC glasses. I really like them, but I can't just pick up my book and read, so I have to go onto some weirdo things that do everything, but I hate them and they don't suit me. [ more ]
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Pork chops and pasta soon.
Former Member Originally Posted by Karma_: Chips and rice together? Carbtastic [ more ]
Ensign Muf Originally Posted by Prometheus: Two great pork chop recipes invented by Prom (that's me that is). Pork chops, chips, peas and onion gravy. Pork chops fried in soya sauce , fried rice with peas, onion and egg, and fried potatoes. Both dishes must be served hot with a side dish of a huge vat of alcohol (beer if you're a bloke, wine if you're a girl). Pork chops are gorgeous fried in soy sauce As are mushrooms (until the sauce caramelises) [ more ]
Ensign Muf Originally Posted by Pengy: picky aren't you muffers I am if someone has pea'ed in my fried rice Generally I like my peas in a pod.. Why get rid of the tastiest bit Hiya btw [ more ]
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I'm quitting my job on Monday!
slimfern Poolie is in his forties [ more ]
Former Member Actually agree with Karma. £30K a year for a young single lad sounds like a bit of a high salary, unless it 'is' on target earnings . Most jobs would not pay that, as a starter salary to a young lad, unless you had worked for the company for a good while and had worked your way up and trained along the way, or if you had rather significant qualifications/a degree etc. And I can't imagine that a company that just 'lowers peoples business rates' can make that much money. JMHO of course. All... [ more ]
Karma_ Originally Posted by Poolshark: I'm gonna work for a company that lowers companies business rates, that like a companies council tax. I met his MD and the office manager who were lovely, and they said that my mate had told them that I was trust worthy and a good worker and billiant at sales (all true) , and on his recommendation they were prepared to give me a job. He reckons I should be earning at least £30 k plus, not bad for a single lad! You lot are the only people I have told I am... [ more ]
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The Cornish Pasty.
longcat Originally Posted by RZB: Originally Posted by Veggieburger: I make veggie pasties with lots of chopped up veg and herbs Have you always been a Veggie , Veg. ?. I prefer Jamaican Patties to Cornish Pasties. Although I've never been as far west as Cornwall so not had the real deal. I like Jamaican patties. Yummy [ more ]
Croctacus I like the breakfast ones we get in Cornwall with bacon, sausage scrambled egg and beans in. [ more ]
RZB Originally Posted by Veggieburger: I make veggie pasties with lots of chopped up veg and herbs Have you always been a Veggie , Veg. ?. I prefer Jamaican Patties to Cornish Pasties. Although I've never been as far west as Cornwall so not had the real deal. [ more ]
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Overheard conversations
stonks Originally Posted by Temps: I heard a conversation between to skangers (chavs) on the bus yesterday, it was like something from a Quentin Tarantino movie lol. It went something like this (language cleaned up for the sake of the mods):- Girl: I don't know how they can live with themselves. I mean the way we were brought up was you never rob on your own. You go off and do what has to be done else where but never rob on yer own. So there was Munter standing there side by side with the rest of... [ more ]
jacksonb Originally Posted by PeterCat: In Waitrose earlier today: One shop assistant to another, "I just have to show Izzy where the continents section is." [ more ]
jacksonb heard as an aside to her daughter when a mate phoned me today ..'' no minnie! we do not throw pigs at cats''... [ more ]
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Vajazzled
Former Member Originally Posted by velvet donkey: I've just been anazzled. Two steps ahead as usual Velvet you're good for the soul No and no [ more ]
Elkie Originally Posted by Triggers: Originally Posted by Elkie: Anyway, I hope you are cool I am getting used to the quote thingy on here slow but sure I am cool as it happens Elkie, and it is Friday the morra so it is all good in the hood! I hope you are in fine fettle yersel' x Am no bad hen, it's always good when you get the Friday feeling x [ more ]
Triggers Originally Posted by Elkie: Anyway, I hope you are cool I am getting used to the quote thingy on here slow but sure I am cool as it happens Elkie, and it is Friday the morra so it is all good in the hood! I hope you are in fine fettle yersel' x [ more ]
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Am going to the Tate - any suggestions on stuff worth taking a look at?
Karma_ That's brilliant! Thank you so much! x [ more ]
Eugene's Lair Originally Posted by Karma_: Bloody hell I've worked in the city for years and never knew about a boat that linked the 2 It wouldn't normally be an issue but cos I'm in a wheelchair at the mo it takes so much blimmin planning for times and facilities and stuff. Really annoys me cos I worked literally 5 minutes from the Tate Modern for ages and never bothered going. The Monet and Rothko stuff quite grab me....I'll have a chat with the powers that be and see. Thank you, though x For the boat... [ more ]
Karma_ Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair: Yeah, I've been surprised at the number of negative comments here. I like both Tate Modern and Tate Britain. Just go with an open mind. It's free, after all (not to be sniffed at in London), you're indoors if the weather's bad and if you don't like a particular exhibit - just walk round the corner... Tate Britain is best-known for it's collection of Turners. not perhaps to everyone's taste, but I would suggest still worth a look. The collection at Tate... [ more ]
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Good or Bad?
Former Member If it adds to the pension fund then hope they do well. Just a shame the 4th member wont be there with them Old wounds still not healed. Take that managed to get Robbie back- Try harder Monkees! Monkees are 4 NOT 3! [ more ]
Carnelian Good, Good pop songs and TBH, they've been 'old' for quite some time and if I recall correctly have been partially active over the last 30 years. I don't think anyone will imagine they've still 23, they've been around and touring on and off for many years. TBH, few of their original fanbase will attend their concerts so it will be those who are there to watch an occasion. Good luck to them! [ more ]
stonks I'll always love Davie Jones.... [ more ]
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Question Time
Carnelian I don't get why Shirley Williams gets the Question Time gig so often. Since 1979 she's not been in government and therefore hasn't been responsible for any cabinet decisions or for defending decisions of a governing party. From 1981 - 2010 she's been in a party that hasn't been in government nor likely to form a government. OK, so the Lib Dems are in the government now and their cabinet ministers are mostly unpopular. I think the Lib Dems are on the whole scared to put up current Lib Dem... [ more ]
Ensign Muf Originally Posted by velvet donkey: I like Shirley Think she's a bit long in the tooth now [ more ]
Former Member I like Shirley [ more ]
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Am I the only person who wants to give W. Hague a slap?
brisket Originally Posted by cologne 1: Sorry Brisket, I can't stand him. That's OK cologne. I'm not exactly mad about him myself. But there are some politicians I detest much more. [ more ]
cologne 1 Originally Posted by brisket: I thought he was obnoxious as a child, when he made that speech to the part conference. (He went to the same school as me.) I like him better now than I did then. Sorry Brisket, I can't stand him. [ more ]
brisket I thought he was obnoxious as a child, when he made that speech to the part conference. (He went to the same school as me.) I like him better now than I did then. [ more ]
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Is it 'There you are' OR 'Their you are'?
Prometheus Originally Posted by Rawky-Roo: Never, my mind is fine as it is...although looking through my script I've noticed a couple of times that I typed 'hear' instead of 'here' I'm seriously concerned now. I wouldn't be concerned at all. It's easy to make typos when you're thinking more about what you're trying to say than what you're typing. I know 100 per cent what the difference between hear and here is yet I sometimes type the wrong one and have to correct it before I post. So yeah, chill [ more ]
Cinds Originally Posted by Rawky-Roo: Never, my mind is fine as it is...although looking through my script I've noticed a couple of times that I typed 'hear' instead of 'here' I'm seriously concerned now. I think it's what you call having a 'brain fart'. I remember doing my dissertation and suddenly, could not for the life of me remember how to spell used, and tried you'sed [ more ]
Karma_ BTW, have you got anyone going to the function tomorrow that I sent you the link for? [ more ]
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Whatever happened to Randolph Scott?
Former Member This film is an oldie but goodie. It also has, to its credit, the fact that John Wayne hated the film. He said that it was the most 'un-American' thing he had ever seen in his life. (Carl Foreman, 'High Noon's screenwriter, was one of the liberals that Wayne had grassed on) . [ more ]
brisket I returned to the cinema a number of times to watch The Proud Ones (made in 1956) With Robert Ryan, Jeffrey Hunter, Virginia Mayo, Walter Brennan, Arthur o'Connell, and Rodolfo Acosta (a familiar and reliable face in many westerns and other films.) I liked The Proud Ones very much... One of the good things about The Proud Ones was the music by Lionel Newman. I cannot find the original version, but this one is closest. (Many of the pictures are not from The Proud Ones, although some are.) [ more ]
Cosmopolitan You're correct, Croc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audie_Murphy And James Stewart's war heroics are here: http://www.listzblog.com/top_t...war_heroes_list.html (Bottom of the page). [ more ]
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Ideal job?
Former Member That one that was advertised in Australia... looking after a beautiful island. Needless to say it got thousands of replies. [ more ]
darloboy (Play The Game!) Football Commentator- I would be a scream Ambassador for WWE in the UK- Promoting the organisation, getting to meet the wrestlers would be so cool and I would be drooling over Nattie . [ more ]
Cagney Originally Posted by Marguerita: Originally Posted by Cagney: I'd love loads of land to open an animal santuary. I'd take them all in and look after them for the rest of their days Cagney I am with you on this one it has always been my dream too Would be fab eh? One of these days [ more ]
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Things that annoy/baffle you in soaps
darloboy (Play The Game!) I want some Banana Bongo flakes, if only they were real . Becky in Coronation Street is just a wannabe Karen and I ain't buying it , Steve needs to grow a pair... [ more ]
darloboy (Play The Game!) Originally Posted by RiverRock: Hollyoaks Cheryl and Brendan apparently grew up in Belfast together yet Cheryl has a Belfast accent and Brendan has a Dublin one. They have an explanation for this, apparently they wanted Emmett Scanlan to play another character a while ago but he wasn't available then and they really wanted him to join so he agreed this time then they wrote in that Cheryl and Brendan were half brother and sister and that Brendan grew up in Dublin because Brendan was... [ more ]
SazBomb Originally Posted by spongebob squarepants: and how come phil mitchell is still the 'hardman' when he looks like a pilsbury doughboy and can't even string a sentence together without gasping for air... hahahaha! [ more ]
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Is it just me or does anyboy else hate the chewing gum?
pepsi I chew gum constantly because I have sjogren's and need help to produce saliva to try and keep my teeth from falling out! [ more ]
Marguerita I never chew gum and dont like to see someone chewing it and making clicking noises [ more ]
kattymieoww I did chew it when I was younger,but I have to say I've not had a piece in over twenty years(ooeer).Disgusting when it's spat onto the pavement etc.It stays forever. [ more ]
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Love & Fear
Baz Sorry to hear this Comrade [ more ]
Cosmopolitan Comrade [ more ]
Former Member Hi Comrade, i can only echo what some others have said. It will be painful for a time, but its for the best. Life is very short and you deserve happiness, and i am very sure you will find it. Take care, but dont sit and think of things too much, get yourself out and keep busy. [ more ]
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New Zealand Earthquake ...
suzybean May be that's why Cologne qualified her statement when she began with " I really think that ..." instead of, for example, " The Ultimate truth is that...." [ more ]
Former Member Re: Cologne's post. It strikes me as somewhat narrow minded, to state that your own view is the 'ultimate truth.' At least the previous posters say that it's only what 'they' believe' and aren't saying that they are correct; which is what you seem to be implying... So this earth has survived with all the crap that has been thrown at it in the past? True, but who says man didn't cause it in the past.? You don't know that. I also believe that what we're doing to the planet is taking its toll. [ more ]
cologne 1 Originally Posted by Yellow Rose: I basically agree with you Sparkles. Yes there are countries that will be more prone to Earthquakes than others because of geological factors - and poor infra structure in some countries makes the devastation and death toll higher than others. The testing and explosions under the Oceans are interfering with the natural world and there's bound to be a consequence. There's also the natural cycles to consider that recurs over thousands or tens of thousands of... [ more ]
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Virgin/Sky
Former Member Thanks everyone. I might try ringing again and see if they can do anything for me. I'd kinda like the sports back if I can and I don't know if being with them for a long time counts but I'll try that too. I was there from it being United Artists with the plain black box which then changed to Telewest and from there Virgin [ more ]
Scotty Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x: I rang Virgin the other night for the same reason - they advised me to ring back to speak to their cancellation folks and to tell them I was thinking of going to another provider , so I did - they've chopped my TV package a bit and given me a discount too, working out about £25 a month less - worth another call to them sprout! Definitely Slinki! We were paying around £74 a month (unlimited calls package etc) I phoned them last year and asked if they had a... [ more ]
Karma_ Originally Posted by Clumsycat: my mum only pays about 30 quid for anytime calls broadband & tele... 110 squid for tele ?????????? Cos the boy's got all the channels in his room too and since the VAT's gone up to 20% it's made a difference. As I said though, I will be looking to reduce it! [ more ]
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Problems with the Youtube player
Scotty I always use IE on youtube but it wasn`t working for me today. I changed to my chrome browser and it was fine. [ more ]
El Loro I am already using the recently updated Flash player and now I have cleared the browser cache, Youtube is working OK. I posted this thread in case anyone else finds they have problems. I've seen another thread on the Youtube help forum and it seems that this problem has arisen for Firefox users as a result of the recent update to Flash player - this update has only happened in the last few days. [ more ]
Ensign Muf I'm beta testing FF4 loro and Youtube is working fine in it [ more ]
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I'm on my wii!
Rawky-Roo Originally Posted by RZB: Originally Posted by ッmufッ: Originally Posted by RZB: I was only recently told you can use the Iplayer on the WII, Is it only the Beeb you can watch through it, or the ITV player also. 'Fraid not, you need your ps3 for that Xbox are really good for sky though right, we'be got the xbox, but not Sky, so I'm guessibng i can't pick that up ?. but it's still worth knowing the beeb player can be used through the Wi, saves squinting at the lap top. I don't think we have... [ more ]
RZB Originally Posted by ッmufッ: Originally Posted by RZB: I was only recently told you can use the Iplayer on the WII, Is it only the Beeb you can watch through it, or the ITV player also. 'Fraid not, you need your ps3 for that Xbox are really good for sky though right, we'be got the xbox, but not Sky, so I'm guessibng i can't pick that up ?. but it's still worth knowing the beeb player can be used through the Wi, saves squinting at the lap top. I don't think we have the PS3 in doors, but I'll... [ more ]
Ensign Muf Originally Posted by RZB: I was only recently told you can use the Iplayer on the WII, Is it only the Beeb you can watch through it, or the ITV player also. 'Fraid not, you need your ps3 for that Xbox are really good for sky though [ more ]
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TV ShowsThe Apprentice
The Apprentice to change its format?
Karma_ Originally Posted by Karma_: Originally Posted by erinp: Saturday, February 19 2011, 16:16 GMT © BBC Lord Sugar has confirmed that The Apprentice is scheduled to return to BBC One in May. The millionaire businessman, who has been involved in the reality franchise since 2004, also revealed that spinoff programme Junior Apprentice will air its second series in the autumn. Sugar further announced that the eventual winner will join him in a new enterprise, the ownership of which will be split... [ more ]
Karma_ Originally Posted by erinp: Saturday, February 19 2011, 16:16 GMT © BBC Lord Sugar has confirmed that The Apprentice is scheduled to return to BBC One in May. The millionaire businessman, who has been involved in the reality franchise since 2004, also revealed that spinoff programme Junior Apprentice will air its second series in the autumn. Sugar further announced that the eventual winner will join him in a new enterprise, the ownership of which will be split exactly down the middle. He... [ more ]
Former Member Saturday, February 19 2011, 16:16 GMT © BBC Lord Sugar has confirmed that The Apprentice is scheduled to return to BBC One in May. The millionaire businessman, who has been involved in the reality franchise since 2004, also revealed that spinoff programme Junior Apprentice will air its second series in the autumn. Sugar further announced that the eventual winner will join him in a new enterprise, the ownership of which will be split exactly down the middle. He tweeted earlier today: "next... [ more ]
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Mrs Browns Boys
Former Member Originally Posted by RiverRock: I'd imagine it's available on iplayer lee, but he wouldn't be able to access it. Unless you ask someone technical if you can download or 'rip' it from iplayer! http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/e...owns_Boys_The_Mammy/ [ more ]
Carnelian Looked a bit rubbish on the promos. I shall take the good word of this forum and catch up on iPlayer. [ more ]
Former Member Re: Mrs Browns Boys [ more ]
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WIND..
Scotty Originally Posted by pepsi: my fella recorded himself farting on his phone, then set it as his message alert ... so every time he farts he looks around and says "have I got a text?" [ more ]
Scotty Originally Posted by Blizz'ard: Some of you may know that I ended up marrying my brother-in-law's brother. On one of my first meetings with his brother, said brother-in-law told his brother that I could fart and burp in unison, and requested that I show him. I did. That was the start of the romance. [ more ]
Blizz'ard Originally Posted by pepsi: my fella recorded himself farting on his phone, then set it as his message alert ... so every time he farts he looks around and says "have I got a text?" [ more ]
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Never mind Jamie Oliver and his benign attempts to do something positive for our kids
cologne 1 Originally Posted by Garage Joe: 'nother big speech coming apparently. Supposed to be. He has lost all credibility. He has 6 sons, who will all be scrabbling for the chance to be the next dictator. I hope the people in Lybia have the courage (despite him) to carry on and get rid. [ more ]
cologne 1 Originally Posted by Jonesy: Wonder if the loss of lives will be worth it in the end.Most of these states have despicable opposition waiting in the wings. Sorry, Jonesy, but I don't agree. All the opposition in any of the countries has seemed to me to be straightforwardly wanting democracy. We're so used to African coups and the like that we can't seem to countenance a real desire of change driven by the people. Even in Lybia, the army has now given out a statement to be on the side of the... [ more ]
Garage Joe 'nother big speech coming apparently. [ more ]
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Malcolm McDowell.
Scotty Love Malcolm - he`s unique. Oh Lucky Man. I went to see it on my own. I was scared stiff. I had to sleep with the light on that night. A great film though. [ more ]
Former Member Originally Posted by Hobbes: As in Clockwork orange? A fantastic film for its time. [ more ]
Xochi He knew more about make-up than I ever did! :-) [ more ]
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Just heard from a very good source
slimfern Originally Posted by velvet donkey: The sunglasses won't help either Dave *titters* [ more ]
slimfern Originally Posted by Dave Was In A Cave: I'm so tired! but i just cant sleep in this bed. Its like ive grown so used to sleeping on rocks and mud that i simply cant sleep in a comfortable bed anymore. irritating or what! Throw a few stones under the bed & drape the bedclothes - will be like you're back in Daves cave [ more ]
Former Member The sunglasses won't help either Dave [ more ]
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Strictly Come Dancing Tour
Baz LOL... Ok Brisket.... I will try to catch it later.... otherwise I will make do with Tom [ more ]
brisket Hello Baz & Yogi I'm afraid the Matt / Gok Wan video has been removed from YouTube. I have been trying to post it to this thread from my computer as an attachment, but failed. It is still on iPlayer, - but only until tomorrow. [ more ]
Yogi19 I know Brisket wanted you to see it. [ more ]
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The fallacy of full employment
Prometheus This government is certainly bad news for the unemployed. Good news for the robots though [ more ]
Karma_ Ello JB! LTNS on here xx Out of those additional 4 million jobs, a lot of those were roles that weren't needed (i.e., Assistant Deputy Manager to the Deputy Manager who reported to the Assistant Manger..etc). Also, a lot of the government roles were filled internally. As they were government roles, by law they had to be advertised to Joe Public, but the internal candidate had already been chosen, and the role itself would just be extension of the role the candidate was already doing and not... [ more ]
jacksonb over the course of the previous govt. , in the 'boom ' years, 4 million jobs were created. it made very little difference to the unemployment rate. [ more ]
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Sorry that I have to report this...
Leccy Originally Posted by Rawky-Roo: Then it was time for the first challenge which was...riding BMX's around a bumpy, safe, well padded studio floor... Hahahahaha! [ more ]
Karma_ Originally Posted by Rawky-Roo: hen it was time for the first challenge which was...riding BMX's around a bumpy, safe, well padded studio floor... \ [ more ]
Dave Was In A Cave They should bring back SHATTERED. [ more ]
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Morning all! :)
Former Member That's good to hear Chicken Hope it continues [ more ]
brisket Originally Posted by PrawnCracker: hello all indeed brisket i am doing fine thank you how are you? Very pleased to hear you are doing fine Chicken. We are pleased to hear that. I'm plodding along fairly ungracefully thanks Genuinely pleased you are OK. [ more ]
PrawnCracker hello all indeed brisket i am doing fine thank you how are you? [ more ]
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BBC deceive viewers again.
Former Member I know what you mean Olly As long as we can read between the lines eh?....which of course you can't if you read the Mail, Express, Sun, Star, Times, Telegraph [ more ]
Former Member Veggie I appreciate your post and your sentiments Veggie, but I really truly don't care about people reacting negatively to me/my posts. Some people on here really nark me off and some of their posts nark me off as I see some snarky posts aimed at me that are sometimes called for, sometimes uncalled for. But I don't care... My posts only come across as arsey if I feel annoyed when I post the message. And I am not always arsey. But I am not here to win any popularity contests or say what... [ more ]
Mount Olympus *Olly* Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy: Edit: Olly!!! I need to explain I laugh at the people who will happily spend half their life decrying the likes of Denise van Outen for being papped and calling Russell Brand and Katie Perry publicity seeking morons for getting married to each other (despite the fact that they haven't sold a single picture of their wedding) and Rod Stewart for daring to have another baby he can well afford with a wife he obviously loves (for now anyway), and who loves him. I... [ more ]
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This had me reaching for a Tena Lady
brisket Originally Posted by Smarting Buttocks: No idea what his name is but he is incredibly handsome. Tom was played by Eric Lutes. The episode was called The Matchmaker. Very funny! [ more ]
Baz That's good... [ more ]
Former Member Originally Posted by Triggers: I loved that Avalon, thanks! It's great, isn't it, Triggs. A good few years ago when we were 'doing' Hamlet for A level we were recommended to watch the BBC video with Jacobi in the title role. I've still got the video kicking around but I don't think I'll ever be able to watch it again without chuckling. Thanks for that one, SB, I hadn't seen it before [ more ]
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Unbelievable... attack on shop man
spongebob squarepants all of the girls have been identified.....i know of one who has been visited by the police.not sure of the others yet........they're all 14-15 bar one who is 16.........reason i know is cos they're at my youngests school.....2 of them are in her class..... [ more ]
Twinkle*Tip*Toes Yep, there's no arguing with ignorance. [ more ]
Karma_ Originally Posted by velvet donkey: Effectively untouchable these little sods. Slapped wrist and they know it. Does a criminal record still get scrapped at 17? Send the little shits to a cat A prison for a week, including a few days on the block. That'd sort 'em out [ more ]
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