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Former Member Sorry Cinds...taken fred off track again I'll just answer Fluffs Obviously I'd like it to be us Fluffs but it depends who we put upfront. I'd like to see Carroll get in amongst em As you were.......... [ more ]
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing So, who do you think will be playing Germany then Nuts? [ more ]
Rexi Originally Posted by nuts: The game you need to look out for is tomorrow night........England - Italy. Winner plays Germany I'll be glued to it ... [ more ]
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Adam .Banana skin high.
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Soozy Woo Originally Posted by Aimee: I haven't quite warmed to Adam, theres something about him that i found a bit scary Who you backing Aims? Dominic? [ more ]
Aimee I haven't quite warmed to Adam, theres something about him that i found a bit scary [ more ]
Xochi Originally Posted by Garage Joe: It's Judith by that Klimt one. Wot he says! Judith was Gustav Klimt's muse. She was popular in the days when folk smoked bananas. [ more ]
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Reaction went Benedict left.
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Soozy Woo Originally Posted by Blizz'ard: Originally Posted by Soozy Woo: Originally Posted by Blizz'ard: Originally Posted by Cinds: Am I the only one that noticed Caroline jumping up and down and shouting 'wanker' when Benedict walked out of the door? I even rewound to make sure that is what I saw. I noticed! He did encourage her to talk about masturbation. He should have turned and said My work here is done He pulled it off, in the end. Don't know about that ...........he almost pulled the end off [ more ]
Blizz'ard Originally Posted by Soozy Woo: Originally Posted by Blizz'ard: Originally Posted by Cinds: Am I the only one that noticed Caroline jumping up and down and shouting 'wanker' when Benedict walked out of the door? I even rewound to make sure that is what I saw. I noticed! He did encourage her to talk about masturbation. He should have turned and said My work here is done He pulled it off, in the end. [ more ]
Soozy Woo Originally Posted by Blizz'ard: Originally Posted by Cinds: Am I the only one that noticed Caroline jumping up and down and shouting 'wanker' when Benedict walked out of the door? I even rewound to make sure that is what I saw. I noticed! He did encourage her to talk about masturbation. He should have turned and said My work here is done [ more ]
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Birthday girl Ashleigh
ScottyScotty
Former Member I do hope she picks Vonne's party. [ more ]
Senora Reyes I hope she gets a personality transplant, it is much needed.. [ more ]
Scotty Day 18: Today's task is Party Wars! 18 mins ago It's Ashleigh's twenty-first today (happy birthday, poppet), so it's no surprise she's going to be the star of today's task. Though it's not going to be an easy ride for the birthday-girl if Big Brother's got anything to do with it. Ashleigh was called to the Diary Room and asked to name two housemates (her favourite friends) to become party planners. The task is that the lucky two will plan and throw rival parties for their best mate, choosing... [ more ]
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Big Brother Highlights Show/BOTS Chat Thread - 9pm Friday 22/6/2012
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Former Member Originally Posted by Cinds: I haven't read through the thread, but did anyone else notice what Caroline did as Benedict was walking out of the door? [ more ]
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing Originally Posted by erinp: 9.34pm Lydia has cooked Spaghetti Bolognese and all the Housemates, apart from Lauren, are sat at the table eating. Deana leans across Adam to reach the salt, which he thinks is rude, and Deana announces: ‘Adam was acting like he was on his period today.’ Lydia thinks that kind of talk is disrespectful at the dinner table, especially as she’s cooked the food. Adam is right. Good table manners dictate that you ask for something to be passed to you, if it is out of... [ more ]
~Lee~ I found 5 on demand channel on my bedroom TV last night so was having a peek at some I missed (fell asleep so didn't get to see much), Mr L had his back to the tv,could hear but couldn't see,he piped up that sounds like a line up from The Muppet Show,tbf he's not far wrong. [ more ]
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New romance
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~Lee~ Originally Posted by justafriend: it probably will Lee, shes going to get grief for what ever she does. im sure ash will go green seeing lauren getting attention. Her Luke A and Conor seem to get along ok,now Benedict is gone if it does flare up again for her I hope they give her support.She's not perfect,not by any means,but I do feel sorry for her the way most of the others treat her. [ more ]
justafriend Originally Posted by ~Lee~: Originally Posted by justafriend: As Katty said Arron sees her stay, and suddenly hes a little more interested. and if someones going to give Lauren a bit of attention then shes going to take it. Shes had a hard time in there for alittle while now. Im still not sure about what shes really like cos we int seen enough of her. BB seems to concentrate on Lydia Becky and Caroline more than any of the others. I just hope it doesn't cause Lauren more grief tbh. it... [ more ]
~Lee~ Originally Posted by justafriend: As Katty said Arron sees her stay, and suddenly hes a little more interested. and if someones going to give Lauren a bit of attention then shes going to take it. Shes had a hard time in there for alittle while now. Im still not sure about what shes really like cos we int seen enough of her. BB seems to concentrate on Lydia Becky and Caroline more than any of the others. I just hope it doesn't cause Lauren more grief tbh. [ more ]
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Bleedin' 'eck.
~Lee~~Lee~
~Lee~ Originally Posted by suzybean: I have 3 brothers too! I'm pretty sure I've accused all of them at different times of being on their period (and I'm sure I've been hit over the head with a cricket bat/kicked in the shin every time I've said it). 3 brother 3 sons here , probably same as you have thrown that comment at them at some stage ,openly discussing it with them no,not a chance would I give them the opportunity to return the favour and discuss their *Men things* with me. [ more ]
suzybean Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal: I've been really surprised the reaction on here to what Deana jokingly and fleetingly said to Adam. Yes. To ADAM! What the hell had it to do with Lydia and Shievonne? I think Deana did really well to keep her composure when she was rounded on in the way she was! Can someone please explain to me how or why it was so horribly inappropriate anyway? That topic of convo was never ruled out of table talk by my mum. I have 3 brothers mind! I have 3 brothers too! [ more ]
Blizz'ard Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal: I've been really surprised the reaction on here to what Deana jokingly and fleetingly said to Adam. Yes. To ADAM! What the hell had it to do with Lydia and Shievonne? I think Deana did really well to keep her composure when she was rounded on in the way she was! Can someone please explain to me how or why it was so horribly inappropriate anyway? That topic of convo was never ruled out of table talk by my mum. I have 3 brothers mind! Absobloodylutely! Sick... [ more ]
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Dominic is a wanker
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stonks Originally Posted by Blizz'ard: Benedict is far worse than Dominic. Dominic could win this. *Goes off to put a bet on and vote*.... [ more ]
stonks Originally Posted by erinp: Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy: Originally Posted by erinp: Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy: Originally Posted by erinp: You would think I went on about Mario and the twin,I had a slight interest nothing more. Kaffy ,I remember one night I ran up to the TV screen to get a closer look at his "Twin" and nearly put my head through it. hahahaha... try explaining that to a) A & E and b) the insurance company Meant to add I had a picture of the "real" Mario in my... [ more ]
Baz Maybe I should have chosen the word entertaining Super, rather than funny ...( it was the early hours ) . Plus, TBH, I really don't want to see a house full of would be * teeny boppers* and fauxmances ... which is what we look like ending up with again.... And it makes me want to turn off [ more ]
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Luke s and Ashleigh
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Amythist Ashleigh...who is she? All I know is she swears and talks about peeing on people and she has hooked up with a lump of pump who thinks he runs the house because he is the largest. They have dismal personalities.Im delighted that Benedict put curry powder in his protein shake. That Luke thought he did it because he was jealous was and speaks volumes about his vanity. [ more ]
Aimee Originally Posted by jacksonb: youd'a thopught that he woulda brought a shirt in with him, didnt he know he'd be on the telly? [ more ]
Blizz'ard Originally Posted by jacksonb: do you remeber Stephanos , blizz? No. Is that an FM, or HM? [ more ]
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It's Ashleigh's birthday
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Xochi Originally Posted by Baz: You can hear it now , can't you * they didn't do that for me , and I'm so important ... I've got a famous boyfriend dontcha know! * Yes! [ more ]
Baz You can hear it now , can't you * they didn't do that for me , and I'm so important ... I've got a famous boyfriend dontcha know! * [ more ]
Former Member Originally Posted by Baz: And if she does then Lydia will fume ! I would put money on that Baz . [ more ]
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Eviction Poll
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Saint Originally Posted by Bolton Fan: At first it was Lauren but if I was voting it would be Benedict *high fives Bolton* Totally agree [ more ]
Kaytee I won't vote, but if I did it would be to save Benedict [ more ]
Bethni At the start of the week i'd have voted Lauren to stay.....now i think Benedicts about face is just a bit too contrived, so i think i'll still vote for Lauren. But i'm not a 100% sure [ more ]
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Morning baakocia and cadencer.
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Lori *re-holsters zapgun* [ more ]
Yogi19 Originally Posted by Lori: They won't be coming back...at least not under THOSE ids. I've deleted them. Zapped by Lori! [ more ]
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing Originally Posted by Soozy Woo: I'm up and about ,,,,,,,and on here early. Where are these new people? In the lounge and, strangely, in the Apprentice forum. That's what alerted me to strange goings-on, but I didn't have time this morning to do anything about it. [ more ]
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Lydia is really Andrew Stone
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suzybean Her speech was fan-bloody-tastic [ more ]
Aimee Originally Posted by ~Lee~: Originally Posted by stonks: Originally Posted by ~Lee~: I said days ago she reminded me of him,she sounds like him and has some of his mannerisms ,as the days go by she gets more like him ..it was you, I was trying to think who'd likened her to him.. Stonks if she starts going around doing high kicks like Amiee says I will be creased laughing ,oh what if she starts massaging the other HM's feet ,hahahahaha it's just matter of time i tell you [ more ]
Saint Originally Posted by velvet donkey: Imagine putting a ring on that finger. Look closer - its a claw [ more ]
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Adam and Shievonne spat.
FM Former Member
Former Member Shievonne is not flying under the radar now . Lydia mentioned in another arguement. It's been a turbulent few days. Another argument erupted earlier this afternoon - this time between Shievonne and Adam. It all stemmed from a flippant remark by Becky, but ended with Shievonne and Adam dissecting their relationship for over half an hour. At times it was hard to keep up with what they were even arguing about, but what we grasped from their ridiculously drawn out conversation is that they seem... [ more ]
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This is the coolest dude in Britain.
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Former Member Yes indeed Velvet, not many of him to a pound [ more ]
Former Member Nice one Sky He's a legend - and I don't use that term lightly. [ more ]
Former Member You been enjoying Ascot Velvet ? I met Henry years ago with my brother and friends. A true gent. Plus he wasnt shy putting his hand in his pocket. I remember a lot of champagne involved ! [ more ]
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Eric Morecambe's statues bigger...
FM Former Member
Former Member Thanks for that El. Pretty sad though. Little Ern was a monster straight man [ more ]
El Loro Originally Posted by velvet donkey: Eric and Les are bronze Loved Les Dawson - a real master craftsman. And both statues were made by Graham Ibbeson. Lack of money meant that Ernie's wasn't made out of bronze so it was made out of Yorkshire stone. More about this rather sad story http://www.guardian.co.uk/cult...e-wise-statue-morley [ more ]
Former Member Eric and Les are bronze Loved Les Dawson - a real master craftsman. [ more ]
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Big Brother Highlights Show/BOTS Chat Thread - 10pm Thursday 21/6/2012
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Former Member Originally Posted by Demantoid: BOOOOOOOO!!!!! *grabs toid's legs in case she goes MIA again* [ more ]
Former Member Originally Posted by Videostar: Originally Posted by Kaytee: Originally Posted by Videostar: Lydia isn't half hamming it up, but she is a great HM, shes the centre piece of this show IMO. At the moment I think Bendydick is shining through the dross Bendydick. Is there something you know that we dont.? He reaches the parts other... [ more ]
Videostar Originally Posted by Kaytee: Originally Posted by Videostar: Lydia isn't half hamming it up, but she is a great HM, shes the centre piece of this show IMO. At the moment I think Bendydick is shining through the dross Bendydick. Is there something you know that we dont.? [ more ]
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Benedict rants at Ashleigh
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jacksonb i watched it last night, for about the first time, and i have to say i'm havin to change my opinion of benedick. i appreciate the way he says what he feels about and to people. quite refreshing and i couldn't stand him 2 days ago. [ more ]
Blizz'ard Originally Posted by Soozy Woo: I love people confronting the 'baddies'. One of my fave moments ever in BB was Aisleyne confronting Leah - I love it when someone is called out in front of everyone. Me too, Sooz. It's just that I think Benedict is a massive hypocrite and has been more bitchy, nasty and judgemental than anyone else in there. I'd love it if BB got them all on the sofas and played back some of the stuff he's said! [ more ]
Soozy Woo I love people confronting the 'baddies'. One of my fave moments ever in BB was Aisleyne confronting Leah - I love it when someone is called out in front of everyone. [ more ]
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Let's talk Deana.
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Former Member Always knew that lassie had legs. [ more ]
~Lee~ Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~: Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy: Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~: Originally Posted by ~Lee~: She's a wench wrench Oi..! You looking for a Bull and Cow? ok.. i know you're making them up now... You calling me a Dunlop..????? Aww Goodyear,she's not. [ more ]
Cosmopolitan Night 'Bo and thanks for the translation - I think..? [ more ]
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Could Benedick'd win this?
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justafriend Originally Posted by velvet donkey: Let's hope so. £25 AT 45/1. very nice [ more ]
kattymieoww I'd rather he stayed over lauren,though I don't really dislike her half as much as most of the rest of them in there. [ more ]
cologne 1 Originally Posted by Saint (fka Renton): We need a protagonist - an evil one. Only Benedict has an axe to grind, is individual enough. He could make BB13 epic They all have an axe to grind (with the other HMs). Only Benedick is willing to grind the axe, which makes him a more attractive option than Lauren. [ more ]
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Karate in the house.
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Former Member I see Scott and Trampy watching in the background,seething most likely .Their security blanket has been removed and they are vulnerable to be up for eviction . [ more ]
Cold Sweat Awesome! I still really hope Lauren survives as i believe there is more about her than she has been able to show thus far. [ more ]
Sezit Nice to see Kimoto after all Lauren has been through. [ more ]
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Have you ever found
CindsCinds
Cinds He's terrible. As was Emma Watson, there was only Rupert Grinch that had anything out of those 3. Don't get me started on the girl in the Twilight movies, she obviously went to the same acting school as Emma Watson. [ more ]
Kaffs Originally Posted by Cinds: Yeah, I watched it the other week, it was a bit pants wasn't it. it was awful... I don't 'do' horror films, but my sister and niece talked me into it - there were a couple of 'holy crap' jumpy moments, but it's hard to take it seriously when you keep shouting 'What is Harry Potter doing going into that room WITHOUT HIS WAND?!!!' Daniel Radcliffe's a really wooden actor isn't he? [ more ]
Cinds Yeah, I watched it the other week, it was a bit pants wasn't it. [ more ]
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I need a betting expert!
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Eugene's Lair Originally Posted by MrsH: Originally Posted by Cold Sweat: I notice a swell of support for Benedict across on Digital Spy based on last nights HL show. there will be more today after Benny's outbursts this morning with Caroline and Ashleigh can he turn this round in 2 days I wonder I meant to post on this thread this morning but didn't have the time: There was slight movement for Benedict overnight, and it seems to have continued as news of his Caroline/Ashleigh outbursts have filtered... [ more ]
Amythist Originally Posted by Baz: I think he has decided that, if he is going to be evicted, he is going down with all gun's blazing ... I love it ... Now it really feels like BB Yes a much better way than crying or taking your clothes off , he has impressed me [ more ]
Baz I think he has decided that, if he is going to be evicted, he is going down with all gun's blazing ... I love it ... Now it really feels like BB [ more ]
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Hot water turned off/announcement!
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suzybean Originally Posted by erinp: Originally Posted by suzybean: Originally Posted by ~Lee~: Originally Posted by suzybean: Conor got busted too Suze tbh it was her sniggering that got to me,and like he said she did laugh when Victoria and Chris were evicted the nasty mare I know Lee, she's ghastly but I found it funny that he's in the thick of it and Becky's not someone he's even particularly bothered by. He's made it clear that it's Deana that grinds his gears. Did you notice Lydia sticking her... [ more ]
Former Member Originally Posted by suzybean: Originally Posted by ~Lee~: Originally Posted by suzybean: Conor got busted too Suze tbh it was her sniggering that got to me,and like he said she did laugh when Victoria and Chris were evicted the nasty mare I know Lee, she's ghastly but I found it funny that he's in the thick of it and Becky's not someone he's even particularly bothered by. He's made it clear that it's Deana that grinds his gears. Did you notice Lydia sticking her oar in as well with some... [ more ]
Aimee Originally Posted by justafriend: well thats made my day Caroline told, i love it.. Benny fighting for his bb place got to give it to the bloke he did well. [ more ]
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McAfee site advisor
EllsElls
Former Member Originally Posted by Ells: Nothing is showing up now for me either Pengy but I swear it was there this morning are you sure I'm sure if there was anything untoward, it would have showed up with me as well. You can rest easy [ more ]
Ells Nothing is showing up now for me either Pengy but I swear it was there this morning [ more ]
Former Member Originally Posted by Ells: Originally Posted by Pengy: I've got McAfee (until it runs out in August) and I didn't get a message about this site being dodgy Is it the site advisor you have, Pengy? yes - site advisor, virus check the whole kit and caboodle and nothing is showing up Ells [ more ]
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Nomination talk now no water for the house .
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Baz ROFL I think we would actually need more than the Vick Lee [ more ]
~Lee~ Originally Posted by Baz: I'd rather not , if that's ok Lee Seriously though it must reek in that bedroom I'd go in armed with a pot of Vick's,if it works for pathologists it would work in that place. [ more ]
Baz Sorry for repeating what you said ... Only the top half of your post came up until I posted [ more ]
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Splashing time
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~Lee~ Originally Posted by Pengy: I wonder if the plastics will have anything to say about this or does it only apply if Lauren is the one playing with the boys and they see Becky as no threat??? Good point Pengy. [ more ]
cologne 1 At least she's not doing naked star jumps (yet) as her desperate namesake did. [ more ]
Former Member I wonder if the plastics will have anything to say about this or does it only apply if Lauren is the one playing with the boys and they see Becky as no threat??? [ more ]
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Getting annoyed with Luke S
MrsHMrsH
stonks Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy: Originally Posted by stonks: I do find Luke A is very susceptible to others suggestions, it was Chris who planted that Luke S wanted to be the Alpha male into the others heads on the first night after a few bevies now that's all Luke A says.... I'm really not loving Luke A either - i think he's a bit boring and wouldn't miss him if he went. I'd trade him for Lauren or Benny right now I feel the same Kaffs and I hate it when Bbots say he'll come into his... [ more ]
Former Member Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy: Originally Posted by stonks: I do find Luke A is very susceptible to others suggestions, it was Chris who planted that Luke S wanted to be the Alpha male into the others heads on the first night after a few bevies now that's all Luke A says.... I'm really not loving Luke A either - i think he's a bit boring and wouldn't miss him if he went. I'd trade him for Lauren or Benny right now I think the only reason he got on was because of his secret - Ch5 thought it... [ more ]
Kaffs Originally Posted by Yogi19: I was ready to throw the towel in, but BB is back and I love it Me too. me three [ more ]
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Phone call from the famous Andy Scott Lee!
ScottyScotty
Former Member Originally Posted by Soozy Woo: I think he's playing it just about right, I don't suppose for one moment that he thought he wold he would have the pee taken so badly - and he's managing to join in the whole joke. Fair play to him. (I'm basing this on his phone call to BOTS last night in case no one else saw it). I had that on in the background last night and listened when he was on the phone - have to agree with you Soozy he's joined in with the whole joke and just based on that phone call... [ more ]
stonks Originally Posted by jacksonb: im not watching BB, but from what i've read, Lydia has to stay in as long as possible. I agree, she may annoy me but she's bloomin good viewing.... [ more ]
jacksonb im not watching BB, but from what i've read, Lydia has to stay in as long as possible. [ more ]
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ASL might be calling .
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Soozy Woo I've got 'Drop 3 dress sizes [ more ]
Cinds Originally Posted by Jenstar: Originally Posted by Cinds: When I saw the thread title of ASL. I thought I had returned to the heady days of MSN chatrooms. *fancy a whisper* Me too! I was looking forward to snooping at how old everyone was and where abouts they were 40 Female Newcastle And no I didn't get the chat advert. [ more ]
Jen-Star Anyone else just get the advert saying 'lets have a chat' [ more ]
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Adam proposes to SHIEVONNE
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Former Member She didn't say no,Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Rf1FOP914&list=UUOIeG57ze1ZVvfpyJIloNrw&index=4&feature=plcp [ more ]
Former Member Originally Posted by erinp: Originally Posted by Baz: Good grief! Was it a task? No idea as yet Baz . They have passed the task ,so I doubt it . [ more ]
Cosmopolitan Glad I watched that. No idea what it was about but still glad I watched. [ more ]
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What could this be?
FM Former Member
Jen-Star yeah, i could be totally wrong though as i dont have a clue of the house layout (still not really watching, just the clips posted on here) [ more ]
Cinds Originally Posted by Jenstar: Originally Posted by Cinds: Is it not just the task room? thats what i thought, they dramatically change the look of the task rooms alot through out the series We're a right pair of spoilsports aren't we [ more ]
Jen-Star Originally Posted by Cinds: Is it not just the task room? thats what i thought, they dramatically change the look of the task rooms alot through out the series [ more ]
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Dear FM
XochiXochi
Aimee I agree, i don't want her to win but she has to stay a while longer yet [ more ]
Yogi19 I've had a change of heart too. I still can't stand Lydia as a person but she's been interesting as a HM. I now want rid of Ashleigh, Sara, Caroline and Scott before Lydia. [ more ]
Kaffs Originally Posted by Senora Reyes: I agree, she is bonkers, delusional, and totally watchable, but I actually think she is 10x more likeable than evil trolldoll Caroline, vapid Sara, and cheap bint Ash. I can't stand her as person... but that doesn't mean i want her out. I wouldn't mind seeing both Lukes go (Luke A is just wallpaper), and Sara, then Scott, that would leave Caroline and Ash without their back ups.. that should be interesting. [ more ]
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