You've got to admire Ben.

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Xochi

Within a week he has managed to invade the bed that Rachel and Keeley slept in... and tonight has been so cross with her that she gave up and slept in the bed next to Steve (he was somewhat provoked by yet more late nite chat)!

He is currently occupying said double bed with great enjoyment!

I think he is applying some of his tactical knowledge about WW2. If only Winston had him on side then, eh?

His problem is that he will have cemented another nomination vote from Rachel and the abuse he will get tomorrow from other FMs will cause serious collateral damage to him.

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Blizz'ardMember 10 years

He's using one side's WW2 strategy, all right.

Invade, hold and spread.

The strange thing is, this will all be Poland's Rachel's fault!

7/22/107:23 PM

Green&PinkMember

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I think he is applying some of his tactical knowledge about WW2. If only Winston had him on side then, eh?

I just woke up to Steve's snoring....

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Poor Rachel!

7/22/107:25 PM

brisketMember Memoriam

Hi Xochi

I think it is safe to say that that Ben has already established himself as a memorable housemate. (I include all the BB series in that.)
I think he has a bit of an edge over some of the other housemates, in that those who seem the most keen to target him and make his life a misery, are themselves very disliked by many voters and viewers.
Like him or not, I think he has been a major influence and talking point in a comparatively dull series.

7/22/107:32 PM

VideostarMember 10 years

Seeing as the others dont give a flying crap about his sleep and almost go out of their way to annoy him I say he deserves that bed.

But RacHEL will nominate him next week..oh and it is all her fault.

7/22/109:11 PM

FairfaxMember

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But RacHEL will nominate him next week..oh and it is all her fault

She already voted him this week so no change there. Cannot stand her by the way.

7/23/1012:02 AM

LiverpoollassMember

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brisket (Ben's Buddy/Mario's Mole) offline 8,262 Forum Posts Today at 2:32 AM Last Edited: Hi Xochi I think it is safe to say that that Ben has already established himself as a memorable housemate. (I include all the BB series in that.) I think he has a bit of an edge over some of the other housemates, in that those who seem the most keen to target him and make his life a misery, are themselves very disliked by many voters and viewers. Like him or not, I think he has been a major influence and talking point in a comparatively dull series.

Agree with you there brisket. I thought he would be disliked outside the house, but I am pleasantly surprised to find that he is not.

Good on Ben and I hope he wins

7/23/1012:28 AM

DanceSetteeMember

oh he's a memorable and interesting housemate alright, but he's a horrible, selfish, self obsessed person. and i don't want him to win at all.

But I prefer villians like him to the shouty nasty ones like Shabby, Charlie Uchea etc....I see him as this year's Bea

7/23/1012:34 AM

CindsMember 10 yearsMemoriam

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Good on Ben and I hope he wins

At this point in the game, Ben is who I'd like to see win too.

7/23/1012:35 AM

LiverpoollassMember

He could do it Cinds, even if he doesn't I will be happy to see him in the final

7/23/1012:36 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

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Seeing as the others dont give a flying crap about his sleep and almost go out of their way to annoy him I say he deserves that bed. But RacHEL will nominate him next week..oh and it is all her fault.

Well said Video, and what's new? Rachel nominated him this week same old same old, good for you Ben

7/23/1012:46 AM

Green&PinkMember

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oh he's a memorable and interesting housemate alright, but he's a horrible, selfish, self obsessed person.

As much as I enjoy watching Ben (he is in my top 4), Ben is ruthlessly selfish and therefore a bully. Good on Rachel for not falling for his Mr Charm act and nominating him.

She can't be that thick after all

7/23/1012:48 AM

LiverpoollassMember

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squiggle Ben's Buddy No.1 offline 5,247 Forum Posts Today at 7:46 AM Last Edited: Reference: Seeing as the others dont give a flying crap about his sleep and almost go out of their way to annoy him I say he deserves that bed. But RacHEL will nominate him next week..oh and it is all her fault. Well said Video, and what's new? Rachel nominated him this week same old same old, good for you Ben

Absolutely. As for him being a bully, that's a word used way too easily in BB and as far as I am concerned he isn't.

7/23/1012:52 AM

Green&PinkMember

LL, the girl wants her bed back and he will not do the right thing... disregarding her reasonable requests...that is bullying.

7/23/1012:57 AM

CindsMember 10 yearsMemoriam

Just watching last nights HL show.

"street light peeeepearrrlllllll"

7/23/1012:56 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

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Absolutely. As for him being a bully, that's a word used way too easily in BB and as far as I am concerned he isn't.

Bully is the last word you could ever apply to Ben imo, he may be many things but no way is he that.

7/23/1012:58 AM

LiverpoollassMember

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greenandpink (Mario to win) offline 1,425 Forum Posts Today at 7:57 AM Last Edited: LL, the girl wants her bed back and he will not do the right thing... disregarding her reasonable requests...that is bullying.

No that is not bullying, that is just being stubborn. But... if you want to see it that way, then that's fine. I don't though.

Oh and what squiggle has just said.

7/23/1012:59 AM

justafriendMember

ben being bullied by jj and the evil monk i see that with a few joining in when they please.
Bens getting more nervous by the day around these people the head nod the twitches. the smiling not sure if he should be, i see what bens being reduced to. they are doing a good job on him in my opinion. jj the monk want him to walk thats the plan.

7/23/101:01 AM

CindsMember 10 yearsMemoriam

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ben being bullied by jj and the evil monk i see that with a few joining in when they please. Bens getting more nervous by the day around these people the head nod the twitches. the smiling not sure if he should be, i see what bens being reduced to. they are doing a good job on him in my opinion. jj the monk want him to walk thats the plan.

That's how I see it too. There's been a few times when JJ, Dave, Steve and Nathan (when he was still there) have collectively attacked Ben for nothing but the hell of it.

7/23/101:04 AM

LiverpoollassMember

Ahh but if you are not a fan of Bens, then you wouldn't see it as him being bullied you would turn it around and say it is Ben who is the bully. As a fan of Ben's I am able to see the good and bad side of him and a bully he is not, but he is constantly being got at by certain HM's.

7/23/101:06 AM

Yogi19Member 10 years

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watching last nights HL show. "street light peeeepearrrlllllll

That was a real LOL moment for me, Ben is comedy gold.

7/23/101:26 AM

Yogi19Member 10 years

G&P, I haven't seen any evidence to support the idea that Ben is bullying Rachel over the bed situation. If you had used the word stubborn or even selfish, I could have understood where you were coming from - but never bullying.

Incidentally, I think Rachel is one of the most inconsiderate HMs in there, waking everyone up with her foghorn voice and childish bedroom antics.

7/23/101:32 AM

Smarting ButtocksMember

If she really wants her bed bac why doesn't she just go to sleep there. He then either has the choice to join her there or sleep somewhere else.

7/23/101:36 AM

LiverpoollassMember

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Yogi19 (Ben#3/Mario#6/Corin#48) offline 10,138 Forum Posts Today at 8:32 AM Last Edited: G&P, I haven't seen any evidence to support the idea that Ben is bullying Rachel over the bed situation. If you had used the word stubborn or even selfish, I could have understood where you were coming from - but never bullying. Incidentally, I think Rachel is one of the most inconsiderate HMs in there, waking everyone up with her foghorn voice and childish bedroom antics.

Totally agree with you Yogi.

Perhaps Rachel's behaviour could be deemed bullying?

7/23/101:40 AM

Green&PinkMember

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IMO, Ben is not bullying Rachel: far from it. But hanging on to the bed when she has made it clear that she wants it back is a form of bullying behaviour. That sort of lack of co-operation is oppressive. But I shall not defend my corner any more. Ben is not a bully, but has bully-like behaviour. I can't quite express what it is I mean. Bit of a bummer on a forum!

However I agree with Smarting. Rachel should just reclaim the bed, either by sleeping in it earlier than Ben or moving her stuff onto it or something

7/23/101:51 AM

longcatMember

He would return my bed or never sleep again all the time I was there.

7/23/101:55 AM

Yogi19Member 10 years

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Perhaps Rachel's behaviour could be deemed bullying?

I don't think it's bullying but it is bl**dy irritating and annoying.
If she kept waking me up, I would have had her hog-tied amd muzzled before now - and that would be bullying.

G&P, we'll agree to disagree.

7/23/101:58 AM

LiverpoollassMember

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Yogi19 (Ben#3/Mario#6/Corin#48) offline 10,139 Forum Posts Today at 8:58 AM Last Edited: Reference: LL Perhaps Rachel's behaviour could be deemed bullying? I don't think it's bullying but it is bl**dy irritating and annoying. If she kept waking me up, I would have had her hog-tied amd muzzled before now - and that would be bullying.

Oh me too!

7/23/102:03 AM

Green&PinkMember

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G&P, we'll agree to disagree.

For sure Yogi

I want Corin, Mario or Ben to win too.. (JJ too but he is playing silly buggers with Josie at the mo

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7/23/102:14 AM

Soozy WooMember

What exactly are we supposed to admire? His extreme selfishness and me, me, me attitude?

Nah .....can't admire him .....can't stand him ....egotistical, selfish, prig.

7/23/102:21 AM

DemantoidMember

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"street light peeeepearrrlllllll"

God, that was a howl

7/23/102:27 AM

Yogi19Member 10 years

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I want Corin, Mario or Ben to win too..

Yay, we can agree on that.

7/23/102:30 AM

Yogi19Member 10 years

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"street light peeeepearrrlllllll" God, that was a howl

Ben's singing was hilarious.

7/23/102:32 AM

DemantoidMember

He sounded like a dog trying to pass one of those terrible dry poos they sometimes get.

7/23/102:36 AM

Yogi19Member 10 years

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He sounded like a dog trying to pass one of those terrible dry poos they sometimes get.

7/23/102:36 AM

FairfaxMember

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What exactly are we supposed to admire?

Well his good manners and restraint are admirable.In the face of almost relentless bullying from JJ and snide goading from Monk Dave, his behaviour has been impeccable. A quality I personally find extremely admirable.

7/23/102:51 AM

Green&PinkMember

What I like about Ben is he is funny and never loses his rag. Quite remarkable for someone who is in the middle of controversy as much as he is.

7/23/102:54 AM

~Lee~Member

If anything Ben is being bullied.....Between JJ constantly having a go at him,Dave sniping and some HM's deliberately going out of their way to annoy him in bed each night,lack of sleep does it it's toll and imo it's showing on Ben.

7/23/102:56 AM

RiverRockMember

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Well his good manners and restraint are admirable.In the face of almost relentless bullying from JJ and snide goading from Monk Dave

It could be argued he treats Mario in the same way, does nothing but bitch about him to who ever will listen.

7/23/102:58 AM

DemantoidMember

Don't forget his 'friend' Mario who managed to have two digs in last night's HLs. If it's not his weedy arms, it's the way he combs his hair

I'm not a Ben fan, but the constant pick-pick-picking is starting to grate.

7/23/102:59 AM

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