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Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

No actual tears tho.

 

 

That hair is a crime in itself.  Someone pass that girl a brush!

Cinds
Originally Posted by Cinds:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

No actual tears tho.

 

 

That hair is a crime in itself.  Someone pass that girl a brush!

 

 

It reminds me of a bale of straw.

 

All we need now is a crow perched atop the matted bale.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities

 

The UK's first youth police and crime commissioner, Paris Brown, has resigned from her post following criticism of messages she posted on Twitter.

The 17-year-old, who was appointed last week, said she was "quitting in the interests of the young people of Kent".

Police are investigating her over tweets she posted between the ages of 14 and 16 which could be considered racist and anti-gay.

Kent PCC Ann Barnes said it was "a very sad day".

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22083032

MrsH

which ever side of the fence you sit on with this, she's virtually unemployable now as no prospective employer will want to hire someone who has publicly written homophobic and racist comments, even if they were written in her teens.

 

I think a lot of the blame lies with those that employed her - if they wanted a squeaky clean representative, they should have done better background checks  and herself for failing to acknowledge for so long that she alone was the author of what appeared on twitter 

 

Personally I think the salary was way too high as well as the weight of responsibility 

 

I know you can change your opinions and be sorry about what she has done, so she's gonna have to do an awful lot of charity/voluntary work to dispel what most  people probably think of her 

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:

which ever side of the fence you sit on with this, she's virtually unemployable now as no prospective employer will want to hire someone who has publicly written homophobic and racist comments, even if they were written in her teens.

 

I think a lot of the blame lies with those that employed her - if they wanted a squeaky clean representative, they should have done better background checks  and herself for failing to acknowledge for so long that she alone was the author of what appeared on twitter 

 

Personally I think the salary was way too high as well as the weight of responsibility 

 

I know you can change your opinions and be sorry about what she has done, so she's gonna have to do an awful lot of charity/voluntary work to dispel what most  people probably think of her 

I agree with this

Jen-Star

I'm so glad the likes of Twitter.FB etc, weren't about when I was younger. I really and truly would hate to think what I may have written when I was young and foolish ...................it's bad enough now I'm old(er) and foolish 

 

Silly girl 

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I'm so glad the likes of Twitter.FB etc, weren't about when I was younger. I really and truly would hate to think what I may have written when I was young and foolish ...................it's bad enough now I'm old(er) and foolish 

 

Silly girl 

I thought the self-same thing Sooz. There but for the grace etc.  However, I'm angry at how the Kent police have handled this. By their neglect they have made her very vulnerable. 

Xochi
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I'm sure that most employers aren't as sensitive as we think and will put it down to youthful high jinks. Is she currently in further education or was that a full time job?

I'm guessing it was a full time job with that salary Joe 

Moonie
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I'm so glad the likes of Twitter.FB etc, weren't about when I was younger. I really and truly would hate to think what I may have written when I was young and foolish ...................it's bad enough now I'm old(er) and foolish 

 

Silly girl 

I thought the self-same thing Sooz. There but for the grace etc.  However, I'm angry at how the Kent police have handled this. By their neglect they have made her very vulnerable. 

I thought the same.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I'm sure that most employers aren't as sensitive as we think and will put it down to youthful high jinks. Is she currently in further education or was that a full time job?

at that salary I'd have thought it was supposed to be a full time job - The commissioner said she was going to go to university instead 

FM
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Life ... its a learning experience that can be harsh.

I wish her well and hope this is a wake up call

She will probably be a Commissioner in ten years time 

She will probably be on TOWIE in two weeks time!

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Life ... its a learning experience that can be harsh.

I wish her well and hope this is a wake up call

She will probably be a Commissioner in ten years time 

One hopes that they'll go into her background a bit more than what they appear to have done here then  

FM
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Life ... its a learning experience that can be harsh.

I wish her well and hope this is a wake up call

She will probably be a Commissioner in ten years time 

One hopes that they'll go into her background a bit more than what they appear to have done here then  

 

This begs the question that if at interview you are asked "At any point have you posted remarks on Facebook or Twitter that would be considered inappropriate or prejudiced in a anyway" and you answer no, should the employer be allowed to have access to your account to verify your response?

 

Otherwise I cannot see how an employer can be any more thorough.

 

Given the amount of correspondence some people make, I can see why employers would not want to have to make these kinds of searches.

 

Making a declaration before employment is the usual way these things are done, the penalty if found to be untrue is discipline or dismissal.

 

Are we expecting the Police to trawl through individuals social network accounts during the employment process?

 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Life ... its a learning experience that can be harsh.

I wish her well and hope this is a wake up call

She will probably be a Commissioner in ten years time 

One hopes that they'll go into her background a bit more than what they appear to have done here then  

 

This begs the question that if at interview you are asked "At any point have you posted remarks on Facebook or Twitter that would be considered inappropriate or prejudiced in a anyway" and you answer no, should the employer be allowed to have access to your account to verify your response?

 

Otherwise I cannot see how an employer can be any more thorough.

 

Given the amount of correspondence some people make, I can see why employers would not want to have to make these kinds of searches.

 

Making a declaration before employment is the usual way these things are done, the penalty if found to be untrue is discipline or dismissal.

 

Are we expecting the Police to trawl through individuals social network accounts during the employment process?

 

I can see your point, and there's also a data protection issue here I think 

FM
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Life ... its a learning experience that can be harsh.

I wish her well and hope this is a wake up call

She will probably be a Commissioner in ten years time 

One hopes that they'll go into her background a bit more than what they appear to have done here then  

 

This begs the question that if at interview you are asked "At any point have you posted remarks on Facebook or Twitter that would be considered inappropriate or prejudiced in a anyway" and you answer no, should the employer be allowed to have access to your account to verify your response?

 

Otherwise I cannot see how an employer can be any more thorough.

 

Given the amount of correspondence some people make, I can see why employers would not want to have to make these kinds of searches.

 

Making a declaration before employment is the usual way these things are done, the penalty if found to be untrue is discipline or dismissal.

 

Are we expecting the Police to trawl through individuals social network accounts during the employment process?

 

Frankly, yes. It is done routinely these days in HR departments in many places pre-employment. This was a high-profile appointment and they had a duty of care to ensure she was the right person for the 'job'. 

Xochi
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:

Who will employ her now after this?


They need a wrecking crew to destroy a house in Derby at the moment.

Wasn't that destroyed in a fire?   I know, I'll get me coat 

FM
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Life ... its a learning experience that can be harsh.

I wish her well and hope this is a wake up call

She will probably be a Commissioner in ten years time 

One hopes that they'll go into her background a bit more than what they appear to have done here then  

 

This begs the question that if at interview you are asked "At any point have you posted remarks on Facebook or Twitter that would be considered inappropriate or prejudiced in a anyway" and you answer no, should the employer be allowed to have access to your account to verify your response?

 

Otherwise I cannot see how an employer can be any more thorough.

 

Given the amount of correspondence some people make, I can see why employers would not want to have to make these kinds of searches.

 

Making a declaration before employment is the usual way these things are done, the penalty if found to be untrue is discipline or dismissal.

 

Are we expecting the Police to trawl through individuals social network accounts during the employment process?

 

I can see your point, and there's also a data protection issue here I think 

 

I forgot about data protection Sprout. I have recently gone through some high level checks and the amount of information I had to disclose was immense. Two documents of 20 and 10 pages to complete which took weeks to be verified and passed.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:

Who will employ her now after this?


They need a wrecking crew to destroy a house in Derby at the moment.

Wasn't that destroyed in a fire?   I know, I'll get me coat 

Ther house is still standing, it's a burnt out empty shell, but it's like Elton John...still standing.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:

I forgot about data protection Sprout. I have recently gone through some high level checks and the amount of information I had to disclose was immense. Two documents of 20 and 10 pages to complete which took weeks to be verified and passed.

Yeah, it's just cos I work with unemployed people and obviously have to keep a lot of info private that I thought about it  

FM
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Life ... its a learning experience that can be harsh.

I wish her well and hope this is a wake up call

She will probably be a Commissioner in ten years time 

One hopes that they'll go into her background a bit more than what they appear to have done here then  

 

This begs the question that if at interview you are asked "At any point have you posted remarks on Facebook or Twitter that would be considered inappropriate or prejudiced in a anyway" and you answer no, should the employer be allowed to have access to your account to verify your response?

 

Otherwise I cannot see how an employer can be any more thorough.

 

Given the amount of correspondence some people make, I can see why employers would not want to have to make these kinds of searches.

 

Making a declaration before employment is the usual way these things are done, the penalty if found to be untrue is discipline or dismissal.

 

Are we expecting the Police to trawl through individuals social network accounts during the employment process?

 

Frankly, yes. It is done routinely these days in HR departments in many places pre-employment. This was a high-profile appointment and they had a duty of care to ensure she was the right person for the 'job'. 

 

Seriously?, are you telling me HR  department now request access to individuals social network accounts to verify that they do not post inappropriate comments?

 

I do find that hard to believe because as has been said, there are data protection issues. Unless the individual hands over access rights, Facebook for example will not grant access to any UK authority or business. Now I know that to be fact as it is something I learnt just this week.

 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Life ... its a learning experience that can be harsh.

I wish her well and hope this is a wake up call

She will probably be a Commissioner in ten years time 

One hopes that they'll go into her background a bit more than what they appear to have done here then  

 

This begs the question that if at interview you are asked "At any point have you posted remarks on Facebook or Twitter that would be considered inappropriate or prejudiced in a anyway" and you answer no, should the employer be allowed to have access to your account to verify your response?

 

Otherwise I cannot see how an employer can be any more thorough.

 

Given the amount of correspondence some people make, I can see why employers would not want to have to make these kinds of searches.

 

Making a declaration before employment is the usual way these things are done, the penalty if found to be untrue is discipline or dismissal.

 

Are we expecting the Police to trawl through individuals social network accounts during the employment process?

 

Frankly, yes. It is done routinely these days in HR departments in many places pre-employment. This was a high-profile appointment and they had a duty of care to ensure she was the right person for the 'job'. 

 

Seriously?, are you telling me HR  department now request access to individuals social network accounts to verify that they do not post inappropriate comments?

 

I do find that hard to believe because as has been said, there are data protection issues. Unless the individual hands over access rights, Facebook for example will not grant access to any UK authority or business. Now I know that to be fact as it is something I learnt just this week.

 

I think there's a Google war going on about the same thing 

FM
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:

Who will employ her now after this?


They need a wrecking crew to destroy a house in Derby at the moment.

Wasn't that destroyed in a fire?   I know, I'll get me coat 

Ther house is still standing, it's a burnt out empty shell, but it's like Elton John...still standing.

They are going to demolish it and the adjacent house too..

Moonie

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