Actually... she lives in a three million pound house 

 

One admires UKIP's stern attitude to this particular issue of freedom to hang our flag the wrong way and individuals parking transits wherever they like.

 

Do you think UKIP will go the extra mile and reinstate Union powers, will they bring back proper jobs, with proper contracts and pensions. Must people continue to put in a days holiday rather than go on the sick. Come on UKIP! Let's have some support for the working man!

 

(yet more world class sarcasm for you and yours)

I'm sure that they have more taste!

No need to - Mr Flags has been round to see her  

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...mily-Thornberry.html

 That I wanna see 

She could bring them in for tea + cake: 

 

Emily may have been prejudiced but she was spot on in her prejudices.  The bloke's a right wing idiot. If I was her, I wouldn't bother canvassing at such a house.

 

There's a great deal of hypocrisy about this.  The sort of people who are taking offence on his behalf would hate it if someone in their street hung crappy St George's flags from their house for the World Cup and couldn't be bothered to take them down.

 

You don't have to be middle class to take that view and it speaks volumes of the patronising media, that it does take that view.

 

Huffington Post
"The cage-fighting car dealer owner of the house, Dan Ware, yesterday branded the MP a "snob" and went to confront the MP at her home, armed with a flag."

This is Rupert Murdoch's idea of 'the working class'.  The actual snobbery is with the right wing popularist media, who have this wishful thinking that most of the working class are football obsessed knuckle draggers, who are inherently racist.  

Anyone from the working class who doesn't fit the stereotype, is dismissed as middle class liberal and out of touch.  



https://twitter.com/BestoftheM...s/536120839130054657

In the spirit of balance, I wonder if the Sun or Telegraph will be putting Nazi flags outside Nigel Farage's house on account of him joining forces with a holocaust denier. 

 

Funny how they blow up certain stories and brush others under the carpet!

 

 

I think this white van man is a utter knob and Murdock is milking it for all it's worth...

Mere tabloid guff.

 

Most people, wouldn't like their neighbours to hang crappy St George's flags outside their homes for the 'World Cup' and leave them there into November.  I bet you wouldn't either.

 

Unfortunately the career of Farage, a man who drapes himself in our flag, but sits with a holocaust denier in the European Parliament, isn't over.

 

Unfortunately, nor is the career of Cameron, who used the tragic death of six children in a house fire as a pretext to attack the welfare state and people on benefits.

 

 

I certainly know what I find more 'offensive'

 

Well said Carnelian

Why don't you just say that the woman was an idiot to tweet such a picture in the first place? Surely anyone in her position with an iota of commonsense would have forseen possible consequences

I'm no supporter of Milliband and his crew nor Farage and Cameron or theirs, but in this case a Labour Minister shot herself in the foot

It seemed fair observation to me. However no doubt one day we'll have a complete set of besuited MPs with film star looks and nee opinions.

(Two out of three! Etc.)

"crappy St George's flag"    that's not very nice is it.

 

Why do they offend you so much?

 

If you or indeed the ex MP take so much offence to that flag (flown in the home country of that flag) then why not take offence to other flags, why just the English or British flag?   

 

It's such lazy thinking to suggest that anyone flying their national flag in this country must be a racist or a knuckle dragger.

 

The lazy thinking is that the working class are personified by the types who hang the St George Flag from their houses for months on end.  It's not just the national flag, it's a crappy West Ham flag too.  What is he, 12?

 

It's disgusting that those hypocrites getting selectively outraged by this don't seem to care less about Nigel Farage sitting next to a holocaust denier.  I know which I find more offensive to 'our country' and the people who fought for it!

 

The hypocrisy is people who'd hate it if their neighbours were hanging such tat up, jumping to his defence.

 

 

 

Those who fought for our country fought for freedom of speech, for this country to stay free of tyranny (the EU) and they fought for their country and their flag.

 

I doubt those who fought for this country would enjoy hearing an English MP slagging off and looking down her nose at those who choose to fly their nations flag outside their own house.

 

Would she have been the same if it were an EU flag flown outside his house? I seriously doubt it.

But of course as we all know now, this country is not a free country anymore, our EU worshipping MP's happily signed out freedoms away....and in which case urinated all over the graves of those who fought in two wars to keep us free from the same thing these donkey's gave to Europe...our right to self determination and identity....and that is why folks want to fly their flags, they see our country as losing it's identity.

That's an interesting viewpoint. Let's get a few points straight. There is nothing wrong with flying the flag. It's your flag. But it may be worth checking up on the protocol or rules of flying.
If anyone is guilty of signing away anything then it's the Tories who have systematically destroyed decent jobs, pensions, sick leave, trade unionism, social housing, national health etc.
(Those I've missed you'll surely pardon)
My Dad fought in the last war and had zero tolerance for lazy dumbed down political analysis such as that embodied by the current loony purveyors of right wing ideology. I think the idea that those who gave their lives might buy into Farrage and his racist and holocaust denying chums is wrong.

Hmmm all that stuff rings hollow and blinkered considering Ukip and the Tories would sell their grandmothers to an international corporate concern with a large enough cheque book. 

 

Lockheed Martin (US and world's largest arms manufacturer) are lined up to bid for NHS contracts.  A US arms manufacturer potentially creaming off the profits from our country's health care.  Something like 70 coalition MPs have links to companies involved in the carving up the NHS.

 

Any whispers from Ukip?  No, it's all childish rubbish about trivialities like straight bananas and feet and inches with them!

 

What's your view of the holocaust denier's mate?  Do you not think Farage is spitting on the graves of the victims of the holocaust and our men and women who fought against Nazism. I certainly do.

 

Winston Churchill was one of the instigators of the EU in the aftermath of two awful European wars.  He acknowledged that the objective wasn't just a trading block - as Ukip like to misinform.  Farage and even most Ukipers are too young to remember the wars, the rise of fascism and how that generation wanted to build a Europe that wouldn't be ripped apart by warfare.

 

When I read kippers spouting about the EU as if it's the Soviet Union, I find it utter pig ignorance and lack of historical context.  The millions in the nations that were in the former Eastern Bloc certainly don't think the EU is the same as the regime they lived under.

 

These 'freedoms' we've signed away are largely trivial and do not impact on our lives.  We even managed to start an illegal war without Europe's permission!

 

If you're going to trade effectively then you do need a fair amount of convergence, otherwise the whole thing was pre-doomed to fail.

 

 

 

 

 

Those who fought for this country didn't feel the need to have a flag hanging outside their house with their favourite football club's badge superimposed. 

 

They fought for our country, putting their lives on the line, not drank beer in front of their TVs for it! 

 

They also voted for the most socialist government we've ever had that introduced the Welfare State.  Something Ukip and the Tories are trying to rip to shreds.

 

That's a modern and tacky display which is more about beery football tribalism (or "firms") than a patriotism based on anything substantial.  If the only thing that makes you proud of your country is a few millionaires kicking a ball around, then I suggest you're no real patriot. Unfortunately football tribalism is often the racists' rich recruitment ground.  This is the very reason why people do find it lowers the tone of the area and why most working class people don't like it.

 

 

 

Carnelian, no, im not saying footballers kicking a ball around makes me proud of my country, my point is the English flag being flown outside someones house does not mean they are evil racists...that's my point.

 

Im afraid you are also coming across as a snob, just because the guy likes football, drives a white van and has 3 England flags outside his home (only one of which had a football crest on it) does not mean he is Mr Right Wing of Racist Town.

 

The level of disrespect shown to a regular common man, the flag he chooses to fly and indeed the freedom for him to fly that flag is quite honestly disgusting and goes against what Britain fought for in two wars.

 

Just because this guy hasn't fought in a war (and lets be thankful he doesn't have to) doesn't make him any less proud of his country than any soldier who did fight for our sadly lost freedom...so what if he drinks beer and watches TV? I find your opinions bizarre and offensive.

 

Im afraid Emily Thornberry has shown herself up as a bigot....and an idiot.

 

BTW, the EU are constantly sticking their nose into our trade affairs, our laws we pass, votes for prisoners, open door immigration (which affects us all), I could go on.....but these are not trivial matters for us.

 

 

 

Im no fan of some of the people UKIP seem to hang around with, my sole support for them is based on the EU situation...I think those who gave their lives gave them for freedom for all, an end to bigotry and fascism.

 

But surely if UKIP didn't exist then we have no options on who to vote for...all the parties think pretty much one way, there's a thin cigarette paper between them all...they all seem to be well groomed, middle class Oxbridge educated men and women who talk solely in soundbites.

 

Everyone across the country is fed up with the same old same old Westminster elite who look down on us all.

 

 

 

I live in quite a densely populated area on the edge of a city centre. As I walk round my local area I seem many flags representing lots of different nations all displayed in windows, a large percentage middle eastern. I see few British flags for any of the home nations.

 

No one seems to have issues with this that I am aware of.

 

I am fairly sure that no one (my neighbours) would have a problem if I displayed the flag of St George in my window, what I am fairly certain of is that any passers by who saw it would immediately assume I could possibly be a bigot, racist or have affiliations to the right wing because that is where we seem to be in this country. I don't ever intend to fly any flag.

 

As a politician she should have known better, there was no way that someone was not going to kick up a fuss. She brought it on herself really.

It infuriates me that our national flags seem to have been hijacked by political organisations - St George's Cross and the Union Jack by right wing groups and the Saltire by the b****y SNP!

I often think that the right wingers saw an opportunity. Let's face it, apart from football we never had a tradition of flying the flag before, well not in the last few decades anyway and not like they do in other bits of Europe.
Mrs Jer and I often used to see people from lands far far away (of which we know very little) burning or walking over the flags on the tellybox. Completely indifferent us like.
I think the default position is that the flags are the  preserve of that lot on the right wing.

I agree wholehaertedly Yogi ..and it also annoys me that because of it we are no longer * allowed* to be visually patriotic !  

 Yay!!

 Exactly

I'd sooner trust it in the state and recent history suggests that the more the private sector grabs bits of it, the worse it becomes.  Huge chunks of it have already been hived off for shareholder return. 

 

Knowing this lot, they'd allow the private sector to put a legal gage on employees and patients to protect shareholder dividend. 

 

Of course, the privatised care homes do a fantastic job!   Not a week goes by without some horror story of a old person roughed up and abused while paying through the nose for the privilege. 

 

On the contrary, the snobbery comes from the right wing media, that has this idea that the more uncouth you are, the more working class you are. 

 

This is how Rupert Murdoch likes to see the English working class-  fat, ignorant, nationalistic and able to be bought with beer and football. 

 

This bloke is knuckle dragger.  He admitted he left the flags up because they offended immigrants.  So Emily's hunch was spot on. 

 

The flip side of your argument is just because he flies a flag, doesn't mean he is any more patriotic than someone who doesn't.  Patriotism isn't a virtue in its own right.  If his reasons for being proud of his country are something moronic like England winning the world cup before he was born, then his patriotism is vacuous and merely football tribalism.

 

You've still to criticise Farage sitting with holocaust denying scum in the Euro parliament yet to take the moral high ground over a human rights lawyer's little error of judgement on Twitter.  Give me a 'snob' any day over someone who jumps into bed with neo-Nazis.

 

 

 

 

 

If you want 'accountability' the accountability you'll get is to the shareholders and CEOs. 

 

I don't know why people think the private sector is more 'accountable' when keeping things in the state means the government has more pull to monitor and make them more accountable. 

 

Look at the privatised utilities.  They were all supposed to be cheaper and more efficient.  All that happened was the Tories gave the fat cats the thumbs up to raise prices beyond inflation. 

 

The so-called privatised train networks get more state funding from the tax payer than when it British Rail.