Deman, Saz.

Thank you..
I think it makes you realise how precious life is... maybe that is why I get upset about any life being wasted..

Isadora

Leccy 

Isadora "Rio" big old boy,(Mini lop) is six and a half years old.Mainly white with "Tortie " beige ,cream and black splotches.
Little( "Well she is in fact fat") Cleo is a an "Otter blue grey" according to her breeder.Half Mini lop/Lion head.A total Diva,her fur is ultra soft and fluffy,hence me having to wash her arse every few days,as she sits in her own cack!

I've only ever put any of mine into the ball for cleaning, because I'm not sure they liked it. With this last lot, I didn't think they'd ever appreciate it, so I put them into any empty bin (with their food bowl and maybe a toy or two) while I cleaned them.

Motley is a right old state now. Every week, me and the OH tell each other it'll be his last, but he keeps confounding us.  Not in any distress though, which is why I'm happy to let nature and old age take its course. He has refused to EVER be tamed, so it'll have to wait until he dies before I can give his incredibly twirly whiskers (best I've ever seen on a hamster) a twirl.

Aww Deman,you still going for a big old Syrian Golden type?  Jake is nearly there,short hair,ginger head, golden body ,black cheeck flashes and and black cap.Cream/white  underbelly...I loves him already.

They sound great! Do you have problems with them nibbling electrical wires and stuff?

Isadora,where do I start... Three comp keyboard cables.Two mobile cables.Attacks on the SKY/TV  cables.Battery cable on the lapotop.All the wallpaper up to tiptoe bunny height (two feet) in the living room.The hallway wallpaper chewed,my room wallpaper chewed.
If you are at all house proud,house rabbits ain't for you!  I still love them.

They are trying to help though.

Yep, a 'big fat Syrian' (to quote the OH) is definitely in the offing. Although both of us love dwarfies and the way they relate to each other. The other bonus with those is, they're far more active during the day as well.
But a Syrian it is, although you probably remember the 'wet tail' horror we had with the last two (lasted a couple of weeks between them) last time 

I can't imagine what she (and you) must be going through, she's only a year younger than me

It is how it is Saz - enjoy your life,... 
I ( and her other friends) just do what we can.

Ah yes Deman,that was bad luck.Elwood was from "Pets at home" .and had a good healthy life,well one visit to vet with a urine infection when he was  about two,that's when you know their little bodies are failing them...sniff.
Jake is from a more local pet shop.he was the last in the litter  for sale.I thought...little guy is now on his own.I must have him!

bleedin numpties that lot were!   I got our rat Buffy from Pets at Home.   Twas years ago (Buffy is no longer with us anymore)...   my daughters first pet.   She wanted a blonde girl rat to call Buffy.

Buffy developed a pair of enormous testicles...    though I managed to pass them off as a droopy backside to the girl!

Awwww, love the sound of Jake All of my last lot came from PAH as well, I think I was just unlucky with those Syrians. To be fair to them, when I raised the issue that I'd had two Syrians from them who'd both got wet-tail, they took it seriously. They took the second one into their surgery try to cure her of it (failed) and then said they'd be contacting their supplier to ask what was going on.

My brother's girlfriend got 2 guinea pigs from Pets at Home, they asked for 2 girls so no baby guineas.... they did get 2 girls, but both were pregnant when they were sold to them *facepalm*

Wet Tail is a horrible infection,and alas if one hammy has it in the group then they will all in the main contract it. The price of hammys is cheap.Jake was £9.00 .Pets at home i think are statin g £8.00..I do know PAH,HAVE NOT BEEN STOCKING BIRDS(BUDGIES,CANARIES AND EXOTIC TYPES. For some time now.They had  that disease Cyticosis (SP) That can infect humans,a bad lung disease.

I got the same when I bought 'three boy' dwarf hammies from a pet shop. Two were boys (Toffee and Polo), one (Nugget) wasn't as we found out when she gave birth!
It was fun though, and we kept two of them (Pip and Peanut)

Guinea pig 1 had 3 teeny babies, all of which sadly died Guinea pig 2 had one fat baby, which they have kept and is doing well

Nice though the guinea pigs and assorted rodents are...........
We were discussing this case over breakfast. I think we can all agree that this woman should have been prosecuted and that would probably have given the howling mob some sense of closure. But isn't it more interesting, that when things of this nature occur, a superior  calibre of twisted loony gets flushed out into the media. We wondered whether people did really wish harm on this lady or whether there was some sort of ironic humour going on at a higher level beyond our own understanding?

I'd go for the former personally.

Me too croc, interestingly in the paper this morning, it compared the public response to this case to that of the Raoul Moat case...

edit. not perhaps the general response, but the specific section of society (and there were a lot of them) who seemed to revere him

Its like the great unwashed in the land of Chavdom need things like this so they have something/someone to feel morally superior to.

That's an interesting comparison, Saz.

Jesus,Mary and Joseph!!!! that is waaaaaaaay out of order

and back to the cat/bin scenario.....The woman should be prosecuted by the police, or brought to court by the RSPCA, where she could be sentenced to 15 or so hours in a very large wheelie bin, that should suit everyone

What's that then, we should be equally vile, nasty and uncaring to both?

I prefer animals to most humans....that woman should never be allowed to own a pet ever again.

what annoyed me was the way she went to stroke it looked round and shoved it in the bin the cat was minding its own business what a nasty women she looked like Rose West

..... or maybe Maxine Carr. I bet she lives around there somewhere.
(As well as Sunderland, Hartlepool, Guisborough, Bristol, Grimsby, Hull etc.)

Top Cat lived in a bin for years and no one moaned about that!

TBH ............it was an incredibly spiteful and nasty thing to do and I can see why it would make local news. To be a headline on National news and National newspapers when there is so much more 'tragic/important' stuff going on both nationally and internationally amazes me.

i'm not condoning it but the amount of column inches taken up by this story  doesn't really equate IMO.

rofl 

I quite agree Soozy....

Some far, far worse happened to a dog near my work recently....not even in the local paper.

Officer Dibble wasn't impressed.

That's how I feel.  At the risk of getting shouted down, I actually cried when I read this on text on Monday, my littlest cat Fudge looks like Lola and is just as friendly and loving and I imagined how I would feel if someone did that to her or to one of my other cats who are part of my family.

I don't agree with the vigilante thing at all.. never have and never will and I also take exception to statements that because I was upset about Lola, I don't care about Pakistan or the Afghanistan war.  Nothing could be further from the truth, I have given money to the appeal although I don't have a lot of money and have always been against the waste of life in Afghanistan, I would feel the same about any animal who was abused, the fact that it was a cat was especially upsetting for me as a cat lover/owner.  

Leccy  Bang out of order the comments made to you,

I've just seen this on the BBC web:

Tiger cub found among stuffed toys in Bangkok luggage

A two-month-old tiger cub has been found sedated and hidden among stuffed toy tigers in a woman's luggage at Bangkok's airport, the wildlife trade monitoring network Traffic has said.

The Thai national was trying to board a flight to Iran but had difficulty with a large bag at check-in.

X-rays aroused suspicions among airport staff who believed they had seen an image resembling a real animal.

Wildlife officers were then called in and discovered the tranquilised cub.

The tiger was found last Sunday and is now being cared for at the rescue centre of the department of national parks, wildlife and plant conservation.

Authorities are trying to determine if the cat is wild or captive-bred.

Chris Shepherd, South-East Asia deputy regional director for Traffic, said: "We applaud all the agencies that came together to uncover this brazen smuggling attempt."

But he also called for regular monitoring and harsher penalties.

"If people are trying to smuggle live tigers in their check-in luggage, they obviously think wildlife smuggling is something easy to get away with and do not fear reprimand," he said.

"Only sustained pressure on wildlife traffickers and serious penalties can change that."

It didn't get enough column inches imo.  Cruelty to animals goes unnoticed alot of the time and so many cases don't make the news and people are unaware of the abuse animals receive at the hands of so-called human beings.

El Loro, that story is awful.  So glad the found the cub.

Some human beings make me