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On reflection, maybe I offended her with the Bethlehem reference. She might have had a bad experience there, like a ticket on her car or a row with customer services in M&S over some Jesus knickers or summat?

Blizzie - my heartfelt apologies for not believing that three blokes who were neither pissed nor tripping off their face followed some big massive feck off moving star for hundreds of miles.

I have to away to my pit. Has been a pleasure, syonara!
Karma_
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I used to joke with my (Southern) English friends about how they pronounced the words "saw" and "sore" exactly the same way. To me, they're completely different: not just in the case of the "R", but the whole vowel sound.
As an aside, 'R' is the only letter in the entire alphabet that the Irish ever get right. I'm English and I hate the fact we ignore the letter R in most words, and that we're shit at football, and cricket, and tennis. I'll get by though.
Prometheus
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I find the Ciaohme thing much easier to grasp than Govan though, once you accept bh and mh are v it's easy(ish) to figure out a lot of Irish spellings
For some reason I just cannot get my head around that spelling/pronunciation even if the hm is a v, the iao still look wrong to me! I keep having to write Keeva or my head will esplode
SazBomb
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Reference: Google is my friend.. it says Govan is a Welsh name meaning "Legendary son of Caw" .


Oh well then We have loads of welsh peeps on here you'd think one of the might have put us out of our misery! Thanks.
You called ?

Never met any Welsh people called Govan, but there is a place called St Govan's head...pronounced Guv-ann.  Apparently St Govan was an Irish saint who popped over for a holiday and got attacked by pirates
DanceSettee

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