Actually thinking about the OP I would say that it has become compulsory to continue with the villification of MJ because his detractors want him to be GUILTY. In a Court of Law he was pronounced NOT GUILTY. There was no evidence, he was innocent, I know it is hard for you to get your head round it but he was NOT GUILTY.

Beyond Reasonable Doubt.

On it is based our entire system.

blame it on the boogie

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Originally posted by Rev. Dim Dale:
Actually thinking about the OP I would say that it has become compulsory to continue with the villification of MJ because his detractors want him to be GUILTY. In a Court of Law he was pronounced NOT GUILTY. There was no evidence, he was innocent, I know it is hard for you to get your head round it but he was NOT GUILTY.

Beyond Reasonable Doubt.

On it is based our entire system.

Acknowledged in my own thread at last! well said Rev.

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Originally posted by Sky:

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Originally posted by Rev. Dim Dale:
Actually thinking about the OP I would say that it has become compulsory to continue with the villification of MJ because his detractors want him to be GUILTY. In a Court of Law he was pronounced NOT GUILTY. There was no evidence, he was innocent, I know it is hard for you to get your head round it but he was NOT GUILTY.

Beyond Reasonable Doubt.

On it is based our entire system.

Acknowledged in my own thread at last! well said Rev.

The Pitchfork Crew are losers.

all i know is that if i have to hear thriller one more time i will rip my own ears off

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Originally posted by Gypsie:
all i know is that if i have to hear thriller one more time i will rip my own ears off

Never before have I read such treason

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Originally posted by Gypsie:
all i know is that if i have to hear thriller one more time i will rip my own ears off

There's a couple going spare if you need them....

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Originally posted by Gypsie:
all i know is that if i have to hear thriller one more time i will rip my own ears off

yaaay you could be a zombie too then.

Having seen this I'm confused as to why those children said they didn't have a Mommy?

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Originally posted by Gypsie:
all i know is that if i have to hear thriller one more time i will rip my own ears off

Don't do that Gypsie, you may need to wear glasses one day.

agggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh please let me watch a news channel for the news in England..not the same stories over and over again of a death in America ...chew the bones out of that coz I dont give a toss anymore

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:
agggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh please let me watch a news channel for the news in England..not the same stories over and over again of a death in America ...chew the bones out of that coz I dont give a toss anymore

May I add to your good cheer by reminding that we still have the funeral to go?

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Originally posted by Essex Angel:

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Originally posted by Gypsie:
all i know is that if i have to hear thriller one more time i will rip my own ears off

Don't do that Gypsie, you may need to wear glasses one day.

But she could wear contact lenses

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Originally posted by madamski:

blame it on the boogie

this is soooooo cute!

i can't get enough of the news

Hail King Michael!

Apparently now Bubbles is grieving FFS

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Originally posted by Karma_:
Apparently now Bubbles is grieving FFS

Animals do pine though

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Karma_:
Apparently now Bubbles is grieving FFS

Animals do pine though

He hasn't seen him in years

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Originally posted by Karma_:

He hasn't seen him in years

Oh

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Originally posted by Karma_:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Karma_:
Apparently now Bubbles is grieving FFS

Animals do pine though

He hasn't seen him in years

Yeah but he's been writing to him and phones regularly!

Would this be the right time to say that after the court case one of the jurors said they were sure MJ had abused kids and behaved improperly but not with the boy in question which is why he was found not guilty.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Would this be the right time to say that after the court case one of the jurors said they were sure MJ had abused kids and behaved improperly but not with the boy in question which is why he was found not guilty.

Is that juror now sleeping with da fishes?

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Would this be the right time to say that after the court case one of the jurors said they were sure MJ had abused kids and behaved improperly but not with the boy in question which is why he was found not guilty.

Is that juror now sleeping with da fishes?

Motown Mafia??

Nah..he's safe.

I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

He's now back in his element I supposed.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Would this be the right time to say that after the court case one of the jurors said they were sure MJ had abused kids and behaved improperly but not with the boy in question which is why he was found not guilty.

It depends what made them so sure, the words coming from the kids themselves, or from some ex employee out for a grudge.

But you're right, the fact that some one has been found 'not guilty' doesn't necessarily mean they didn't do it. There's a famous case in Ireland in the 70's I think it was where the man was acquitted because in order for there to have been an assault the child needed to have been in fear. The child said in her evidence she didn't fear the man, therefore there was no assault and he was acquitted. Sad but true.

So you do have to have an open mind about these things, both in favour of MJ and against him I guess.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

I don't think Michael Jackson ever had the press in his pocket. They seemed to have done their best to make his life a misery. Even now there are pictures of him on a stretcher all over the net, despite Jermaine's request for privacy *shrugs*

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Would this be the right time to say that after the court case one of the jurors said they were sure MJ had abused kids and behaved improperly but not with the boy in question which is why he was found not guilty.

It depends what made them so sure, the words coming from the kids themselves, or from some ex employee out for a grudge.

Presumably from the evidence they heard and were presented with in the case....to them it proved his guilt overall but not in relation to that particular kid. He did say that had the case be brought in relation to various other people the verdict would have been different.

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

I don't think Michael Jackson ever had the press in his pocket. They seemed to have done their best to make his life a misery. Even now there are pictures of him on a stretcher all over the net, despite Jermaine's request for privacy *shrugs*

Trust me! They have the media in their pocket, and they are working it a treat.

That's what I'm saying Croc, who was giving the evidence? And if that's the case why didn't those other various people come forward? I remember hearing some stuff when the case was going on, but this was all evidence given by former staff members, as far as I remember.

So many who's and why's....too many really in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

I don't think Michael Jackson ever had the press in his pocket. They seemed to have done their best to make his life a misery. Even now there are pictures of him on a stretcher all over the net, despite Jermaine's request for privacy *shrugs*

Trust me! They have the media in their pocket, and they are working it a treat.

Okay...I trust you agent Joe, but if you let me down I'll go all Ros on your ass

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
That's what I'm saying Croc, who was giving the evidence? And if that's the case why didn't those other various people come forward? I remember hearing some stuff when the case was going on, but this was all evidence given by former staff members, as far as I remember.

So many who's and why's....too many really in my opinion.

Oh God don't ask me to name names! I can;t remember who and the juror did not specify other than to say they believed he was guilty of wrong doing but not in relation to the charges brought before them.

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

I don't think Michael Jackson ever had the press in his pocket. They seemed to have done their best to make his life a misery. Even now there are pictures of him on a stretcher all over the net, despite Jermaine's request for privacy *shrugs*

Trust me! They have the media in their pocket, and they are working it a treat.

Okay...I trust you agent Joe, but if you let me down I'll go all Ros on your ass

Would you really? Just for me? I quite like the sound of that.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
That's what I'm saying Croc, who was giving the evidence? And if that's the case why didn't those other various people come forward? I remember hearing some stuff when the case was going on, but this was all evidence given by former staff members, as far as I remember.

So many who's and why's....too many really in my opinion.

Oh God don't ask me to name names! I can;t remember who and the juror did not sceifiy other than to say they believed was was guilty of wrong doing but not in relation to the charges brought before them.

Pah! All just circumstantial...I'm done here your honour

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
That's what I'm saying Croc, who was giving the evidence? And if that's the case why didn't those other various people come forward? I remember hearing some stuff when the case was going on, but this was all evidence given by former staff members, as far as I remember.

So many who's and why's....too many really in my opinion.

Oh God don't ask me to name names! I can;t remember who and the juror did not sceifiy other than to say they believed was was guilty of wrong doing but not in relation to the charges brought before them.

Pah! All just circumstantial...I'm done here your honour

Thats not fair...you quoted before I corrected me typos!!!

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

I don't think Michael Jackson ever had the press in his pocket. They seemed to have done their best to make his life a misery. Even now there are pictures of him on a stretcher all over the net, despite Jermaine's request for privacy *shrugs*

Trust me! They have the media in their pocket, and they are working it a treat.

Okay...I trust you agent Joe, but if you let me down I'll go all Ros on your ass

Would you really? Just for me? I quite like the sound of that.

*starts smashing up the thread in an effort to show Joe she means business*

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
That's what I'm saying Croc, who was giving the evidence? And if that's the case why didn't those other various people come forward? I remember hearing some stuff when the case was going on, but this was all evidence given by former staff members, as far as I remember.

So many who's and why's....too many really in my opinion.

Oh God don't ask me to name names! I can;t remember who and the juror did not sceifiy other than to say they believed was was guilty of wrong doing but not in relation to the charges brought before them.

Pah! All just circumstantial...I'm done here your honour

Thats not fair...you quoted before I corrected me typos!!!

Typos? Typos?! You can't handle the typos

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

One of the things that the press have picked up on is that the father made a speech apparently (I don't know as I haven't heard it) didn't really refer to Michael in terms of him being his son but in terms of him being a global superstar.
And then went on to plug a new record label

Ohmigod, Charlie Brooker is one of the wicked people too. Wicked meaning bad here, not cool, you understand.

Look!

"I was at Glastonbury when Jacko died. That's not a factual statement, but a T-shirt slogan. The day after his death, souvenir tops with "I was at Glasto 09 when Jacko died" printed on them were already on sale around the site. In fact, when Jacko died, I was at home playing Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars on a Nintendo DSi. I am 38 years old."

Lack of respect shown

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Ohmigod, Charlie Brooker is one of the wicked people too. Wicked meaning bad here, not cool, you understand.

Look!

"I was at Glastonbury when Jacko died. That's not a factual statement, but a T-shirt slogan. The day after his death, souvenir tops with "I was at Glasto 09 when Jacko died" printed on them were already on sale around the site. In fact, when Jacko died, I was at home playing Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars on a Nintendo DSi. I am 38 years old."

Lack of respect shown

Dontcha just love the Genius of Brooker?

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I can't believe that his abusive father had the gall to appear in public. They have the press in their pocket. n'est ce pas?

I don't think Michael Jackson ever had the press in his pocket. They seemed to have done their best to make his life a misery. Even now there are pictures of him on a stretcher all over the net, despite Jermaine's request for privacy *shrugs*

Trust me! They have the media in their pocket, and they are working it a treat.

The families focus seem to be lasering in on "who's to blame and who can we sue". Thus the early focus on the doctor and now the insinuation that the promoters were responsible by demanding too much from him. So unlike his loving family.