Not sure what point you're making Marcus

Apparently they do?

• Tom Harrell, Jazz Musician
  
• Meera Popkin, Broadway Star
  
• John Nash - Mathematician/Nobel Prize Winner
  
• Andy Goram - Scottish Soccer Player/Goal Keeper
  
• Lionel Aldridge - Superbowl-winning Football Player
  
• Peter Green, Guitarist for the band Fleetwood Mac
  
• Syd Barrett of the band Pink Floyd
  
• Alexander "Skip" Spence and Bob Mosley - both members of the 1960's rock group Moby Grape (and Jefferson Airplane for Skip Spence)
  
• Roger Kynard "Roky" Erickson, of the Austin-based 1960's group TheThirteenth Floor Elevators
  
• Joe Meek - 1960's British record producer
  
• James Beck Gordon (Jim Gordon) - Jism Gordon had been, quite simply, one of the greatest drummers of his time
  
• Charles "Buddy" Bolden - Jazz Musician
  
• Antoin Artaud - Dramatist, Artist
  
• Mary Todd Lincoln, wife of Abraham Lincoln (past-President of the United States)
  
• Vaclav Nijinsky, Famous Russian Dancer

You never hear abouit them doing something that has a positive effect on someone else ?


It's only the bad stuff !"

They probably do, just the media doesn't like to report too much good.

Andy gorams not one..I've sat and had a drink with him on many an occasion, he was always the same....Big headed and self absorbed, but Schizophrenic, nah I doubt it.


They never mentioned it !

In fairness I think most of the schitzophrenics that commit crimes are off their meds when they do those things.
My birth mother has the condition and also someone whose family I know well and they're not dangerous (well only to themselves)

Why would he?  If you suffer from any kind of mental illness you're hardly about to make it a topic of conversation whilst socialising, unfortuanely ALL mental illnesses have a stigma attatched, and people will make judgements on you before they even know you if you make it known.



Also medication, when correctly administered and the right combination is found, can help people who suffer live extremely productive lives.....there's no reason you should be able to 'tell'.  Alot of it comes down to trial and error in alot of cases, the patient's acceptance of their condition and any help offered, and the people around them

Newt did a few good things.

Ok, I'm digesting words..

As of now I believe it's just a word for people who are born bad to use as an excuse.


I'm away to read up on it...BRB

Hopefully I will learn something today.

I think you'll find words like psychopath, or sociopath, are generally more likely to be connected to people we consider 'born bad'....and also maybe schizophrenia too, but its not an excuse by any means....I have a schizophrenic cousin....he's a diagnosed sufferer now after many years of heroin and methadone abuse.  There are people out there now who suffer as a side affect of a head trauma and the like.....you cant write off millions of people as 'bad' because a few people in history also happened to have been disagnosed with the same and were murderers.



At the same time, regardless of mental illness, life makes us how, and who, we are....nature PLUS nurture mould us into the people we become....some of us are lucky enough to have a stable upbringing, so that we become the most we can be as adults....and sadly some of us are so damaged by what we have seen at such a young age that we are beyond repair.  I do believe that as a civilised society we owe it to everyone to help them realise what they have become and to try and teach them that there is something else they could be...

I don't mean to dismiss anything, but in truth, I'm just sitting staring at a screen in a hungover state hoping somethings going to happen...I'll be back tomorrow.

The voices told me to clear up the kitchen.

I will thank them later.

Lizzie


Having said ALL that ^^^ it comes to a point where you cant help anyone anymore....and you just have to realise its time to give up..

Don't give up on me, baby!

Sorry, that was David.

Shut up, David!

LOL bliz

It's not a question of the media not 'liking' to report it. It's just that bad stuff gets brought to the media's attention via the police or courts. Good stuff isn't - or are the media supposed to follow every schizophrenic around on the off chance they might do something nice?

personally i find all Neurotypicals to be bad cos most murderers and criminals are NT