He done it on Friday night and again tonight....Marcus was wrong she or any other HM had a right to think so no?. He done it on Friday night and again tonight....Marcus was wrong she or any other HM had a right to think so no?.Replies sorted oldest to newest
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
He would like her to think that he's wise. 
he doesn't want to kick marcus when he's down. I would though, I'd kick him when he's down.
quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
Exactly..he`s loyal.
Maybe slightly blinded but loyal none the less.
quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
quote:Originally posted by jonono:
he doesn't want to kick marcus when he's down. I would though, I'd kick him when he's down.
I'd take time out to buy some steel toe capped boots to come back and kick him with
I think he realises she is a stirrer but dont understand why he sticks up for Marcus .
Bea is a patronising idiot and I think Freddie is starting to realise that.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
I think he realises she is a stirrer but dont understand why he sticks up for Marcus .
It happened on Friday night also ....I'm confused.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Lee I can`t believe you`re saying that. Freddie is sincere.
He was saying don't kick someone when they are down. He knows Marcus is really down over Noirion/Siavash.
Marcus was wrong but he was like just give him a slight break.
Well done Freddie.
Marcus was wrong but he was like just give him a slight break.
Well done Freddie.
quote:Originally posted by theAteam:
He was saying don't kick someone when they are down. He knows Marcus is really down over Noirion/Siavash.
Marcus was wrong but he was like just give him a slight break.
Well done Freddie.
That`s my opinion too
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Lee I can`t believe you`re saying that. Freddie is sincere.
I can't fathom it Scotty....As I say that's twice he's admonished her for being negative to Marcus....Freddy is like us all human and with faults.
quote:Originally posted by theAteam:
He was saying don't kick someone when they are down. He knows Marcus is really down over Noirion/Siavash.
Marcus was wrong but he was like just give him a slight break.
Well done Freddie.
Friday night the Noirin Siavash thing hadn't came out yet.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
It's called loyalty to a friend.
I think it could be his way of trying to influence nominations it is obvious he wants Noireen out in my opinion not Marcus 
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
I think it could be his way of trying to influence nominations it is obvious he wants Noireen out in my opinion not Marcus
He has never influenced nominations, he ust sees Noirin as the reason why Marcus is going off the rails.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Lee I can`t believe you`re saying that. Freddie is sincere.
I can't fathom it Scotty....As I say that's twice he's admonished her for being negative to Marcus....Freddy is like us all human and with faults.
I agree Lee. His loyalty may be a bit blinded but he does remember when he was bullied and Marcus stood by him. That`s what friends are for. Rightly or wrongly I admire him for it.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by theAteam:
He was saying don't kick someone when they are down. He knows Marcus is really down over Noirion/Siavash.
Marcus was wrong but he was like just give him a slight break.
Well done Freddie.
Friday night the Noirin Siavash thing hadn't came out yet.
These are yesterdays (Sundays highlights)
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Lee I can`t believe you`re saying that. Freddie is sincere.
I can't fathom it Scotty....As I say that's twice he's admonished her for being negative to Marcus....Freddy is like us all human and with faults.
I agree Lee. His loyalty may be a bit blinded but he does remember when he was bullied and Marcus stood by him. That`s what friends are for. Rightly or wrongly I admire him for it.
i agree scotty freddie went through hell with lisa and the gang and it was marcus who was there for him.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
It's called loyalty to a friend.
I'm not a fan of Bea but don't think Freddy or any HM has the right to censor what she says .
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
It's called loyalty to a friend.
I'm not a fan of Bea but don't think Freddy or any HM has the right to censor what she says .
Bea later has a chat with Marcus and gave him a hug and pretty much saw what Freddie was saying.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Your always questioning his motives, I just find that bizarre for a supporter to do.
I'll admit when he's annoying or wrong but I happen to think him right ths time.
Freddie can do no wrongquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
double standards are rife on the forum where Freddie is concerned sorry but it is true in my opinion quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
It's called loyalty to a friend.
I'm not a fan of Bea but don't think Freddy or any HM has the right to censor what she says .
Bea later has a chat with Marcus and gave him a hug and pretty much saw what Freddie was saying.
Yes she done the same on Friday night too after Freddy had words with her.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Your always questioning his motives, I just find that bizarre for a supporter to do.
I'll admit when he's annoying or wrong but I happen to think him right ths time.
Really?....Tell me when VS?....Tell me when I'm always questioning his motives seeing as in your opinion I do it all the time that should be an easy task....I said like all the others he bitches which he does where have you admitted he's wrong?
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
It's called loyalty to a friend.
I'm not a fan of Bea but don't think Freddy or any HM has the right to censor what she says .
Bea later has a chat with Marcus and gave him a hug and pretty much saw what Freddie was saying.
Yes she done the same on Friday night too after Freddy had words with her.
Yes, could it be that Freddie had a good point and Bea is grown up enough to accept he might be right.?
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Freddie can do no wrongquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year
quote:Originally posted by Justafriend:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Lee I can`t believe you`re saying that. Freddie is sincere.
I can't fathom it Scotty....As I say that's twice he's admonished her for being negative to Marcus....Freddy is like us all human and with faults.
I agree Lee. His loyalty may be a bit blinded but he does remember when he was bullied and Marcus stood by him. That`s what friends are for. Rightly or wrongly I admire him for it.
i agree scotty freddie went through hell with lisa and the gang and it was marcus who was there for him.
He did Justafriend and he`s there for him now.
Freddie is aware that Marcus has got it wrong but he understands his mood (Noirin effect) and won`t let him down.
Freddie is a true friend. I would love him to be my friend.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
Freddie can do no wrong
Don't be sorry for having an opinion Marguerita you're quite entitled to it darlin....Sweet JC even if my children are wrong say it....if I can do it about them I sure as hell can do it about a HM.
Iquote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Freddie can do no wrongquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year
did we get in some scraps or what and marg was always there
Bea judges people rather quickly and creates problems in there. She thinks herself into a very important position in the house without having really fully earned it.
That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many timesquote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Freddie can do no wrongquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Your always questioning his motives, I just find that bizarre for a supporter to do.
I'll admit when he's annoying or wrong but I happen to think him right ths time.
Really?....Tell me when VS?....Tell me when I'm always questioning his motives seeing as in your opinion I do it all the time that should be an easy task....I said like all the others he bitches which he does where have you admitted he's wrong?
he is just being a good friend to marcus lee thats what friends do
Loved freddie and bea sitting on the bench saying the house needs more cuddles maaannnnn.....then immediately defending marcus's current mood...because someone has dared have cuddles.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Your always questioning his motives, I just find that bizarre for a supporter to do.
I'll admit when he's annoying or wrong but I happen to think him right ths time.
Really?....Tell me when VS?....Tell me when I'm always questioning his motives seeing as in your opinion I do it all the time that should be an easy task....I said like all the others he bitches which he does where have you admitted he's wrong?
I've never actually seen him bitch, to me Bitching is name calling, telling lies to demonise a HM to the others, he said/she said type of thing, Freddie hasn't done that, that i've seen.
Hardly in the same league as Lisa and her group.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Justafriend:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Lee I can`t believe you`re saying that. Freddie is sincere.
I can't fathom it Scotty....As I say that's twice he's admonished her for being negative to Marcus....Freddy is like us all human and with faults.
I agree Lee. His loyalty may be a bit blinded but he does remember when he was bullied and Marcus stood by him. That`s what friends are for. Rightly or wrongly I admire him for it.
i agree scotty freddie went through hell with lisa and the gang and it was marcus who was there for him.
He did Justafriend and he`s there for him now.
Freddie is aware that Marcus has got it wrong but he understands and won`t let him down.
Freddie is a true friend. I would love him to be my friend.
i believe we all need a freddie in out lives,
hes bloody brilliant.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many timesquote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Freddie can do no wrongquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year
But you still supported the self lothing thug.?
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many timesquote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Freddie can do no wrongquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year
But you still supported the self lothing thug.?
for vidquote:Originally posted by mrs d:
he is just being a good friend to marcus lee thats what friends do
I'm quite aware of that fact but does it follow that others have to be likewise?....As we know Bea watched the show so is fully aware of all that happened prior to her going in.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
It's called loyalty to a friend.
I'm not a fan of Bea but don't think Freddy or any HM has the right to censor what she says .
I agree. I don't care much for Bea but feel a bit stifled by the 'Halfwit can do no wrong'
threads.
The same way you supported that prat Marioquote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many timesquote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Freddie can do no wrongquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year
But you still supported the self lothing thug.?
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by mrs d:
he is just being a good friend to marcus lee thats what friends do
I'm quite aware of that fact but does it follow that others have to be likewise?....As we know Bea watched the show so is fully aware of all that happened prior to her going in.
i am not aware that he has asked anyone to agree with him bea as got a mind of her own has she not
quote:Originally posted by Justafriend:
i believe we all need a freddie in our lives,
hes bloody brilliant.
Wouldn`t that be nice. He`s a beautiful person.
Because he's in the house, not watching editted "highlights".
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Justafriend:
i believe we all need a freddie in our lives,
hes bloody brilliant.
Wouldn`t that be nice. He`s a beautiful person.
he is a lovely genuine person
quote:Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year
That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many times
But you still supported the self lothing thug.?
We sure did..... and still do
And quite frankly against the majority of the awful shower in there this year... he was a saint!quote:Originally posted by watcher1:
I agree. I don't care much for Bea but feel a bit stifled by the 'Halfwit can do no wrong'
threads.
I guess this is what happens when objectivity goes out the window...He isn't flawless who is?
Freddie has proved once again just why he is liked by so many people. Why the public kept him in the house. And why he survived five solid weeks of relentless bullying and being mocked.
1. He is loyal;
2. He is sensitive;
3. He is caring;
4. He is kind and considerate.
He stood up for Marcus because he is his friend. It's a pity Marcus did not show Fred the same loyalty way back then, when him and Lisa had the row and Marcus said 'I'm not sticking up for Fred'. But, nevertheless, he did befriend Fred when no one else did during the bullying. As did Siavash. I think Freddie, in addition to being the things I mentioned above, has a very good memory for the bad old days and this is payback time.
yeah, man!
1. He is loyal;
2. He is sensitive;
3. He is caring;
4. He is kind and considerate.
He stood up for Marcus because he is his friend. It's a pity Marcus did not show Fred the same loyalty way back then, when him and Lisa had the row and Marcus said 'I'm not sticking up for Fred'. But, nevertheless, he did befriend Fred when no one else did during the bullying. As did Siavash. I think Freddie, in addition to being the things I mentioned above, has a very good memory for the bad old days and this is payback time.
yeah, man!
Freddie has his faults, but he's just so lovely and really glad he stuck up for Marcus. He's spot on most of the time with his opinions and observations . Didn't like seeing him upset either but he says things to peoples faces if they want his honest opinion so I don't think he bitches.
. Didn't like seeing him upset either but he says things to peoples faces if they want his honest opinion so I don't think he bitches.quote:Originally posted by mrs d:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Justafriend:
i believe we all need a freddie in our lives,
hes bloody brilliant.
Wouldn`t that be nice. He`s a beautiful person.
he is a lovely genuine person
He is mrs d. He has beautiful heart
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie has proved once again just why he is liked by so many people. Why the public kept him in the house. And why he survived five solid weeks of relentless bullying and being mocked.
1. He is loyal;
2. He is sensitive;
3. He is caring;
4. He is kind and considerate.
He stood up for Marcus because he is his friend. It's a pity Marcus did not show Fred the same loyalty way back then, when him and Lisa had the row and Marcus said 'I'm not sticking up for Fred'. But, nevertheless, he did befriend Fred when no one else did during the bullying. As did Siavash. I think Freddie, in addition to being the things I mentioned above, has a very good memory for the bad old days and this is payback time.
yeah, man!
rock and roll
quote:Originally posted by mrs d:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by mrs d:
he is just being a good friend to marcus lee thats what friends do
I'm quite aware of that fact but does it follow that others have to be likewise?....As we know Bea watched the show so is fully aware of all that happened prior to her going in.
i am not aware that he has asked anyone to agree with him bea as got a mind of her own has she not
She has but twice she was negative to Marcus Freddy admonished her for it resulting in her going cap in hand to Marcus...Her fault for doing that yes she stood have stood by her opinion but Freddy should have left her to her own devices initially.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie has proved once again just why he is liked by so many people. Why the public kept him in the house. And why he survived five solid weeks of relentless bullying and being mocked.
1. He is loyal;
2. He is sensitive;
3. He is caring;
4. He is kind and considerate.
He stood up for Marcus because he is his friend. It's a pity Marcus did not show Fred the same loyalty way back then, when him and Lisa had the row and Marcus said 'I'm not sticking up for Fred'. But, nevertheless, he did befriend Fred when no one else did during the bullying. As did Siavash. I think Freddie, in addition to being the things I mentioned above, has a very good memory for the bad old days and this is payback time.
yeah, man!
Maybe.... but, like all of them, he is also after ÂĢ100,000..... let's not forget that, or take it out of the equation
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by watcher1:
I agree. I don't care much for Bea but feel a bit stifled by the 'Halfwit can do no wrong'
threads.
I guess this is what happens when objectivity goes out the window...He isn't flawless who is?
TBH I think this year he is the best of a bad bunch
I dont think anyone has said he is not a nice person just not a saint .
quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Freddie has his faults, but he's just so lovely and really glad he stuck up for Marcus. He's spot on most of the time with his opinions and observations
Darlo now you're here darlin pls go to the Freddy thread and take my name of the list....The boss has spoken and deemed me an unfit fan.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Freddie has his faults, but he's just so lovely and really glad he stuck up for Marcus. He's spot on most of the time with his opinions and observations
Darlo now you're here darlin pls go to the Freddy thread and take my name of the list....The boss has spoken and deemed me an unfit fan.
LOL... well in that case Lee, they better take me off as well.... cos while I like him, I certainly can see a lot of faults
quote:Originally posted by rosgirl:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by watcher1:
I agree. I don't care much for Bea but feel a bit stifled by the 'Halfwit can do no wrong'
threads.
I guess this is what happens when objectivity goes out the window...He isn't flawless who is?
TBH I think this year he is the best of a bad bunch
I agree 100% Ros.
Freddie was in the bath so he certainly didn't seek her out to admonish her. It looked like she asked his opinion....and he gave it as a loyal friend.
quote:Originally posted by Baz:
LOL... well in that case Lee, they better take me off as well.... cos while I like him, I certainly can see a lot of faults
What a joke eh Baz...Lord give me strength.
No one is totally perfect, it would be really silly to expect that. Freddie indeed has faults but he's a thoroughly decent sort and definitely the best of that lot.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Freddie has his faults, but he's just so lovely and really glad he stuck up for Marcus. He's spot on most of the time with his opinions and observations
Darlo now you're here darlin pls go to the Freddy thread and take my name of the list....The boss has spoken and deemed me an unfit fan.
No Lee and Baz you're keeping your number
.quote:Originally posted by Bethni:
No one is totally perfect, it would be really silly to expect that. Freddie indeed has faults but he's a thoroughly decent sort and definitely the best of that lot.
And your point is Bethni?.....I have already acknowledged all those facts haven't I?.
quote:Originally posted by Baz:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie has proved once again just why he is liked by so many people. Why the public kept him in the house. And why he survived five solid weeks of relentless bullying and being mocked.
1. He is loyal;
2. He is sensitive;
3. He is caring;
4. He is kind and considerate.
He stood up for Marcus because he is his friend. It's a pity Marcus did not show Fred the same loyalty way back then, when him and Lisa had the row and Marcus said 'I'm not sticking up for Fred'. But, nevertheless, he did befriend Fred when no one else did during the bullying. As did Siavash. I think Freddie, in addition to being the things I mentioned above, has a very good memory for the bad old days and this is payback time.
yeah, man!
Maybe.... but, like all of them, he is also after ÂĢ100,000..... let's not forget that, or take it out of the equation
I'm sure Freddie could use the 100k and he's not above a bit of flummery, I'm sure. But if he wins the money it will be because we see something more in him than greed and gameplaying. It might be because - shock horror - he is a genuinely nice person. But I do get your point baz ...
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Baz:
LOL... well in that case Lee, they better take me off as well.... cos while I like him, I certainly can see a lot of faults
LOL... yes. ... but we got used to it last year eh? No one is perfect....either inside the house, especially not this lot.... or in RL for that matter
quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
No Lee and Baz you're keeping your number
I'm not darlin....I'm not going to be dictated to what I can and cannot say about a HM...If being a fan gives some FM's the impression they can do so then I'd rather not give them the privilege.quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Freddie has his faults, but he's just so lovely and really glad he stuck up for Marcus. He's spot on most of the time with his opinions and observations
Darlo now you're here darlin pls go to the Freddy thread and take my name of the list....The boss has spoken and deemed me an unfit fan.
No Lee and Baz you're keeping your number
Awwwww do I have to Darlo
I can't count the times I've seen a friend make a mistake but stood their corner because I understand either there frame of mind or their reasons for doing it..Freddie to me is a good friend to Marcus when Marcus is feeling used and abused by Noirin....
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bethni:
No one is totally perfect, it would be really silly to expect that. Freddie indeed has faults but he's a thoroughly decent sort and definitely the best of that lot.
And your point is Bethni?.....I have already acknowledged all those facts haven't
Is only some people allowed to have an opinion in this thread?
If ive stepped on anyones toes lock me out.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many times
I think Freddie is alright. He ain't no saint but then no one is.
I wouldn't mind him winning so far
quote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many times
I think Freddie is alright. He ain't no saint but then no one is.
I wouldn't mind him winning so far
Exactly....This is the thing but lord help us how dare we comment on anything negative.
Freddie puts a high value on friendship. That's an admirable quality in anyone, not just Freddie.
quote:Originally posted by Baz:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie has proved once again just why he is liked by so many people. Why the public kept him in the house. And why he survived five solid weeks of relentless bullying and being mocked.
1. He is loyal;
2. He is sensitive;
3. He is caring;
4. He is kind and considerate.
He stood up for Marcus because he is his friend. It's a pity Marcus did not show Fred the same loyalty way back then, when him and Lisa had the row and Marcus said 'I'm not sticking up for Fred'. But, nevertheless, he did befriend Fred when no one else did during the bullying. As did Siavash. I think Freddie, in addition to being the things I mentioned above, has a very good memory for the bad old days and this is payback time.
yeah, man!
Maybe.... but, like all of them, he is also after ÂĢ100,000..... let's not forget that, or take it out of the equation
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I give my opinion as to how I see it and I know I am probably in the minority were Freddie is concerned,but I dont see him like the way he is portayed on herequote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many times
I think Freddie is alright. He ain't no saint but then no one is.
I wouldn't mind him winning so far
Exactly....This is the thing but lord help us how dare we comment on anything negative.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie puts a high value on friendship. That's an admirable quality in anyone, not just Freddie.
Asbsolutely Twee.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
I give my opinion as to how I see it and I know I am probably in the minority were Freddie is concerned,but I dont see him like the way he is portayed on here
Marguerita I have asked myself after this tonight would he be proud of how folk are responding on his behalf....Honestly I think not.quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie puts a high value on friendship. That's an admirable quality in anyone, not just Freddie.
That may be true but I guess that I'd like my friend to be honest enough to tell me (sensitvely) if I'm out of order. I'd value that more as it takes a genuine friend to take a risk like that. I may not like it initially but would admire them once I'd had time to think.
Why does he not think that wayquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
Marcus always says let me be me I'm here to be
myself
Freddy should let Bea be Bea
Seriously disappointed in Freddy
He wouldn't have changed my opinion no waaayyyy
myself
Freddy should let Bea be Bea
Seriously disappointed in Freddy
He wouldn't have changed my opinion no waaayyyy
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many times
I think Freddie is alright. He ain't no saint but then no one is.
I wouldn't mind him winning so far
Exactly....This is the thing but lord help us how dare we comment on anything negative.
We mainly agree on most things Lee, but you`re wrong on your view about negative comments not being taken into account/allowed dare I say about Freddie.
No offence lee but it seems to me you don`t like the answers.
quote:Originally posted by grannyg:
Marcus always says let me be me I'm here to be
myself
Freddy should let Bea be Bea
Seriously disappointed in Freddy
He wouldn't have changed my opinion no waaayyyy
Hi granny g ....Have you still got your tin hat and flak jacket from last year?...If so get them on you'll need them . quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I would say he is in it for the money. He's probably got his student debts to pay off.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
We mainly agree on most things Lee, but you`re wrong on your view about negative comments not being taken into account/allowed dare I say about Freddie.
No offence lee but it seems to me you don`t like the answers.
This thread is point proven Scotty...Need I say any more?...I don't think so....no offence taken btw.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I wasn`t replying you Lee but while we`re here..no we can`t. His honest character tells me he`s not. That`s my opinion.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by grannyg:
Marcus always says let me be me I'm here to be
myself
Freddy should let Bea be Bea
Seriously disappointed in Freddy
He wouldn't have changed my opinion no waaayyyy
Hi Lee
I'm at the ready ooooh yeeeahGot the hat and uniform on
let's face it we need it now
Does it mean you are dishonest if you want to win thats the name of the game surely they would all love to win the money
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Why does he not think that wayquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I`ll take that as question...
His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.
quote:Originally posted by grannyg:
Hi Lee
Got the hat and uniform on
let's face it we need it now
Still as bonkers as ever I see grannyg...great to see you btw how are you?. quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Why does he not think that wayquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I`ll take that as question...
His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.
As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.
Freddie has his eye on the prize as do all the HM's I'd be worried if he didn't. It's like a football team turning up to a match expecting to lose, it really wouldn't make sense. Freddie is far from perfect, and even though I am a fan of his I do see his flaws, he is not above scheming, he bitches with the best of them, and his hmmmmm moments get on my nerves. What I do like about Freddie is his loyalty, even when it's a bit misguided with Marcus. Marcus used Freddie to align more votes against Lisa and her pack, I doubt Marcus has the same depth of loyalty to Freddie. Freddie is loyal to Siavash, another HM. who took no part in the habitual bullying from Lisa & co. Freddie feels conflicted because there is friction between the two people he considers mates in the house, Marcus and Siavash, he knows the cause of the friction is Noirin, whom Freddie has realise is totally selfish and insincere. I can understand Freddie's angst.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
We mainly agree on most things Lee, but you`re wrong on your view about negative comments not being taken into account/allowed dare I say about Freddie.
No offence lee but it seems to me you don`t like the answers.
This thread is point proven Scotty...Need I say any more?...I don't think so....no offence taken btw.
Fm`s are giving their opinions, you don`t agree with most. Fair enough.
What point has been proven Lee?
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Freddie has his eye on the prize as do all the HM's I'd be worried if he didn't. It's like a football team turning up to a match expecting to lose, it really wouldn't make sense. Freddie is far from perfect, and even though I am a fan of his I do see his flaws, he is not above scheming, he bitches with the best of them, and his hmmmmm moments get on my nerves. What I do like about Freddie is his loyalty, even when it's a bit misguided with Marcus. Marcus used Freddie to align more votes against Lisa and her pack, I doubt Marcus has the same depth of loyalty to Freddie. Freddie is loyal to Siavash, another HM. who took no part in the habitual bullying from Lisa & co. Freddie feels conflicted because there is friction between the two people he considers mates in the house, Marcus and Siavash, he knows the cause of the friction is Noirin, whom Freddie has realise is totally selfish and insincere. I can understand Freddie's angst.
Also, I think the penny has dropped with him regarding Bea. I think that when he was talking to her while in the bath he realised just how false and scheming she really is and he's probably wondering just how this will affect their friendship!
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by grannyg:
Hi Lee
Got the hat and uniform on
let's face it we need it now
I wasn't on for a while LEE but here I am
willing, ready and able (Ithink) being a bit bonkers really helps
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Fm`s are giving their opinions, you don`t agree with most. Fair enough.
What point has been proven Lee?
Actually I agree with most but what I don't agree with is being dictated to because I asked a question which obviously many took exception to.
quote:Originally posted by watcher1:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie puts a high value on friendship. That's an admirable quality in anyone, not just Freddie.
That may be true but I guess that I'd like my friend to be honest enough to tell me (sensitvely) if I'm out of order. I'd value that more as it takes a genuine friend to take a risk like that. I may not like it initially but would admire them once I'd had time to think.
hi watcher. I'm not sure if you are referring to the Freddie/Marcus friendship in your post, or the fact that Freddie told Bea off thereby putting their friendship at risk. But I suspect you may mean the former. Freddie did have a chat with Marcus about his behaviour the other night. Bea poked her beak into that chat as well, but Freddie made it clear to Marcus that he had his support. Freddie is quite diplomatic and he doesn't always voice his support but he implies it rather, by just giving Marcus the time to open up, and to listen. In short, Freddie took the time to listen, sympathise, and comfort Marcus when he was down, way down in the dumps. Just like a real friend does ....
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by grannyg:
Marcus always says let me be me I'm here to be
myself
Freddy should let Bea be Bea
Seriously disappointed in Freddy
He wouldn't have changed my opinion no waaayyyy
LOL... I remember that.... and I've still got the missiles for my zimmer primed and ready
Happy days quote:Originally posted by grannyg:
I wasn't on for a while LEE but here I am
willing, ready and able (Ithink) being a bit bonkers really helps
Ooooh mind what you're saying granny...Ready willing and able next you'll be labelled a a tart quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Why does he not think that wayquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I`ll take that as question...
His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.
As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.
What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?
I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Fm`s are giving their opinions, you don`t agree with most. Fair enough.
What point has been proven Lee?
Actually I agree with most but what I don't agree with is being dictated to because I asked a question which obviously many took exception to.
I must read back and see who dictated to you..
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I must read back and see who dictated to you..
Feel free.quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Why does he not think that wayquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I`ll take that as question...
His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.
As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.
What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?
I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours
Invention? Don't the vast majority of graduates have a student loan to pay back once they start earning? Some take years to get out of debt. Thats the norm these days and I expect his uni cost rather more than some other unis.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I must read back and see who dictated to you..
I do hope you`re not being sarcastic lee. I would be disappointed in you if you were.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by grannyg:
I wasn't on for a while LEE but here I am
willing, ready and able (Ithink) being a bit bonkers really helps
Woooohooooo
I love Freddie and I'm concerned about him being caught up with the Marcus paranoia.
He was the first to mention the words Game Plan in the show.
He spoke about it in a very matter of fact way in the first week.
He was the first to mention the words Game Plan in the show.
He spoke about it in a very matter of fact way in the first week.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Why does he not think that wayquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I`ll take that as question...
His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.
As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.
What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?
I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours
Invention? Don't the vast majority of graduates have a student loan to pay back once they start earning? Some take years to get out of debt. Thats the norm these days and I expect his uni cost rather more than some other unis.
But you don`t know for a FACT if he has student debt or not.
You`re assuming. That`s my point.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Why does he not think that wayquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I`ll take that as question...
His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.
As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.
What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?
I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours
Invention? Don't the vast majority of graduates have a student loan to pay back once they start earning? Some take years to get out of debt. Thats the norm these days and I expect his uni cost rather more than some other unis.
But you don`t know for a FACT if he has student debt or not.
You`re assuming. That`s my point.
I shall rephrase my post.
I assume that Freddie has his student loan to pay back as I haven't read about him being in steady employment since he graduated, therefore I would assume that because he is currently taking part in a game show with prize money I assume he will want to be in with a chance of winning said prize money.
He does not have a job Scotty and he paints faces in nightclubs for drinks , I am sure he wants to win the money like anyone would ,I dont believe he is in it for the journey none of them are .
Of course he wants it, and all it entails. He took the hint off Craig.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by mrs d:
he is just being a good friend to marcus lee thats what friends do
I'm quite aware of that fact but does it follow that others have to be likewise?....As we know Bea watched the show so is fully aware of all that happened prior to her going in.
Freddie gave his opinion about Marcus, thats all, hardly a shooting offence.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
He does not have a job Scotty and he paints faces in nightclubs for drinks , I am sure he wants to win the money like anyone would ,I dont believe he is in it for the journey none of them are .
i'm sorry but that post really tickled me Marge
Well i think Freddie has got his feet firmly under the table and i couldn't believe only Bea said anything to Wolfman about losing the tokens why did they all sit there like a bunch of numpties
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:The same way you supported that prat Marioquote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many timesquote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Freddie can do no wrongquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin
That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?
Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him.
Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh.
Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year
But you still supported the self lothing thug.?
Mario never shouted at women or treat them like muck because they turned his advances down.
warning long threads
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Why does he not think that wayquote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.
I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
I`ll take that as question...
His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.
As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.
What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?
I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours
Invention? Don't the vast majority of graduates have a student loan to pay back once they start earning? Some take years to get out of debt. Thats the norm these days and I expect his uni cost rather more than some other unis.
But you don`t know for a FACT if he has student debt or not.
You`re assuming. That`s my point.
I shall rephrase my post.
I assume that Freddie has his student loan to pay back as I haven't read about him being in steady employment since he graduated, therefore I would assume that because he is currently taking part in a game show with prize money I assume he will want to be in with a chance of winning said prize money.
You assume too much. Freddie has been gainfully employed quite a bit since he left Uni.
You carry on assuming what you assume.
We`re going nowhere together BB.
I`m off to have some cheesecake with scooshy cream. See ya, thanks for the banter
Freddie's family own a stately home surrounded by 100 acres. He has been privately educated, which costs an arm and a leg. He probably has never been short of money in his life because of his parent's wealth. So, no, I don't think Freddie's real aim in coming on the show was purely about money. But I'm sure he would like to win it. He'd be a fool not to think this way. But I think Freddie is all about fair play. If he wins it, he wins it fair and square. And by his performance so far he has shown that he is playing the game rather well. The Public seem to like him anyway, and that's all that matters in the end.
I see that LEE has given up supporting Freddie. 
And all this because he's not doing what the Marcus haters want him to do and sell him out.
And all this because he's not doing what the Marcus haters want him to do and sell him out.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I see that LEE has given up supporting Freddie.
And all this because he's not doing what the Marcus haters want him to do and sell him out.
I still love Freddie and despise Marcus, so there it is.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I see that LEE has given up supporting Freddie.
And all this because he's not doing what the Marcus haters want him to do and sell him out.
Wind your neck in VS....Lee removed Freddie from her sig as I was unaware it censored what I said about him until your kind self demanded I do so....It's not often I oblige so consider yourself privileged on this occasion.
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I see that LEE has given up supporting Freddie.
And all this because he's not doing what the Marcus haters want him to do and sell him out.
I still love Freddie and despise Marcus, so there it is.
But your not angry with Freddie for simply defending Marcus (his friend) to Bea?
I would have thought real fans of Freddie would respect him even more for defending his mate when it would be easier to drop him like a a stone.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I see that LEE has given up supporting Freddie.
And all this because he's not doing what the Marcus haters want him to do and sell him out.
Wind your neck in VS....Lee removed Freddie from her sig as I was unaware it censored what I said about him until your kind self demanded I do so....It's not often I oblige so consider yourself privileged on this occasion.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I must read back and see who dictated to you..
Read back..opinions, nobody dictating
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I see that LEE has given up supporting Freddie.
And all this because he's not doing what the Marcus haters want him to do and sell him out.
Wind your neck in VS....Lee removed Freddie from her sig as I was unaware it censored what I said about him until your kind self demanded I do so....It's not often I oblige so consider yourself privileged on this occasion.
I wasn't trying to censore you, but I see all the time people questioning every single tiny thing Freddie does, im sorry if I annoyed you.
I think it all boils down to Marcus being one of the early members of the anti-Lisa group in the house, so Freddie will stand by his man even when he knows Marcus has acted like an idiot.
I don't think he tried to influence Bea's opinion as such, but that is what happened in the end. She realised Freddie wasn't about to start slagging off his mate, so she very quickly altered her opinion for fear of it compromising her game plan of being best buddies with the known favourite.
That's my take on it anyway.
I don't think he tried to influence Bea's opinion as such, but that is what happened in the end. She realised Freddie wasn't about to start slagging off his mate, so she very quickly altered her opinion for fear of it compromising her game plan of being best buddies with the known favourite.
That's my take on it anyway.
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:
I think it all boils down to Marcus being one of the early members of the anti-Lisa group in the house, so Freddie will stand by his man even when he knows Marcus has acted like an idiot.
I don't think he tried to influence Bea's opinion as such, but that is what happened in the end. She realised Freddie wasn't about to start slagging off his mate, so she very quickly altered her opinion for fear of it compromising her game plan of being best buddies with the known favourite.
That's my take on it anyway.
She done the same thing on Friday Spider....She's a crafty mare that's for sure surely she wouldn't want it to come across as it did to me that he was influencing her in there or would she?.
Freddie's on page 2. Bea's read the book.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:
I think it all boils down to Marcus being one of the early members of the anti-Lisa group in the house, so Freddie will stand by his man even when he knows Marcus has acted like an idiot.
I don't think he tried to influence Bea's opinion as such, but that is what happened in the end. She realised Freddie wasn't about to start slagging off his mate, so she very quickly altered her opinion for fear of it compromising her game plan of being best buddies with the known favourite.
That's my take on it anyway.
She done the same thing on Friday Spider....She's a crafty mare that's for sure surely she wouldn't want it to come across as it did to me that he was influencing her in there or would she?.
She plants seeds of doubt in the minds of the original housemates, very subtly. She is incredibly cunning and fully aware of what she's doing. She's got one massssive game plan which wasn't so obvious to start with, but every episode it becomes increasingly clear that she is untrustworthy and deceitful.
He said he paints faces in nightclubs for drinks if he is not short of money why does he not pay for themquote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie's family own a stately home surrounded by 100 acres. He has been privately educated, which costs an arm and a leg. He probably has never been short of money in his life because of his parent's wealth. So, no, I don't think Freddie's real aim in coming on the show was purely about money. But I'm sure he would like to win it. He'd be a fool not to think this way. But I think Freddie is all about fair play. If he wins it, he wins it fair and square. And by his performance so far he has shown that he is playing the game rather well. The Public seem to like him anyway, and that's all that matters in the end.
quote:You assume too much. Freddie has been gainfully employed quite a bit since he left Uni.
You carry on assuming what you assume.
We`re going nowhere together BB.
I`m off to have some cheesecake with scooshy cream. See ya, thanks for the banter
Graduates do not need to start paying back student loans until they are earning at least ÂĢ15,000 pa. Then it's paid back through the tax system. Thats not an assumption on my part, that is a fact. What is an assumption on my part is whether or not he has been earning over ÂĢ15,000 pa since he graduated. If he is earning this, or even if he is not, I assume he went to Oxford university, therefore I assume his university fees will be more than if he went to another uni. He could, and this is an assumtion on my part, be paying his loan off for years. That is a major weight on any graduate's back. That is why I assume that Freddie is taking part in a gameshow right this very minute and is playing to win. There's no shame in that, is there?
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie's family own a stately home surrounded by 100 acres. He has been privately educated, which costs an arm and a leg. He probably has never been short of money in his life because of his parent's wealth. So, no, I don't think Freddie's real aim in coming on the show was purely about money. But I'm sure he would like to win it. He'd be a fool not to think this way. But I think Freddie is all about fair play. If he wins it, he wins it fair and square. And by his performance so far he has shown that he is playing the game rather well. The Public seem to like him anyway, and that's all that matters in the end.
Freddie's parents own a former stately home which they converted into a country house hotel. They are earning a living the same as many people in the UK.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:He said he paints faces in nightclubs for drinks if he is not short of money why does he not pay for themquote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie's family own a stately home surrounded by 100 acres. He has been privately educated, which costs an arm and a leg. He probably has never been short of money in his life because of his parent's wealth. So, no, I don't think Freddie's real aim in coming on the show was purely about money. But I'm sure he would like to win it. He'd be a fool not to think this way. But I think Freddie is all about fair play. If he wins it, he wins it fair and square. And by his performance so far he has shown that he is playing the game rather well. The Public seem to like him anyway, and that's all that matters in the end.
Marg, I'm not sure about Freddie's finances but I'm sure he doesn't go short. I heard him say this about the nightclubs too, and it's typical Freddie stuff. I believe he probably does do things like that because he still lives at home with his parents in their big pile in the country and they probably, like most parents I know, tell their sons to 'go and get a proper job' lol. I'm sure Fred would like the 100k but he will probably spend it on scented candles and hippy stuff
Freddie defending Marcus was one of the most genuine things anyone has done in the house.
He knows Marcus is unpopular in the house, for all he knows Marcus is unpopular on the outside but he still defends him even tho he knows it could harm him in the house.
I say that is a bloody good friend, if he influenced Bea I think it was only to get her to see that Marcus is not all bad.
He knows Marcus is unpopular in the house, for all he knows Marcus is unpopular on the outside but he still defends him even tho he knows it could harm him in the house.
I say that is a bloody good friend, if he influenced Bea I think it was only to get her to see that Marcus is not all bad.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie's family own a stately home surrounded by 100 acres. He has been privately educated, which costs an arm and a leg. He probably has never been short of money in his life because of his parent's wealth. So, no, I don't think Freddie's real aim in coming on the show was purely about money. But I'm sure he would like to win it. He'd be a fool not to think this way. But I think Freddie is all about fair play. If he wins it, he wins it fair and square. And by his performance so far he has shown that he is playing the game rather well. The Public seem to like him anyway, and that's all that matters in the end.
Freddie's parents own a former stately home which they converted into a country house hotel. They are earning a living the same as many people in the UK.
true BB. But they must have had the financial wherewithal to buy the stately home in the first place. And pay for Freddie's, his brother's, and his two sisters' private education. That costs serious money. I know it's a wedding venue btw.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie defending Marcus was one of the most genuine things anyone has done in the house.
He knows Marcus is unpopular in the house, for all he knows Marcus is unpopular on the outside but he still defends him even tho he knows it could harm him in the house.
I say that is a bloody good friend, if he influenced Bea I think it was only to get her to see that Marcus is not all bad.
He didn't intentionally influence Bea. She just mysteriously matched his opinion, once she knew what it was.
Remember Bea started out telling Noirin in the bedroom that someone needs to take Marcus down a peg or two... then after she learned Freddie's opinion we witnessed the most fake and cringeworthy u-turn in Bea's opinion.
Is Bea's own opinion that easily swayed? Is she really that weak? I don't think so. I think she's playing a complete blinder.
Is Bea's own opinion that easily swayed? Is she really that weak? I don't think so. I think she's playing a complete blinder.
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie defending Marcus was one of the most genuine things anyone has done in the house.
He knows Marcus is unpopular in the house, for all he knows Marcus is unpopular on the outside but he still defends him even tho he knows it could harm him in the house.
I say that is a bloody good friend, if he influenced Bea I think it was only to get her to see that Marcus is not all bad.
He didn't intentionally influence Bea. She just mysteriously matched his opinion, once she knew what it was.
Even if thats the case it's Bea who should get the stick not Freddie, I know your not giving Freddie stick BTW.
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:
Remember Bea started out telling Noirin in the bedroom that someone needs to take Marcus down a peg or two... then after she learned Freddie's opinion we witnessed the most fake and cringeworthy u-turn in Bea's opinion.
Is Bea's own opinion that easily swayed? Is she really that weak? I don't think so. I think she's playing a complete blinder.
He'd best distance himself asap....She's twittering away now on LF....Free love
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie defending Marcus was one of the most genuine things anyone has done in the house.
He knows Marcus is unpopular in the house, for all he knows Marcus is unpopular on the outside but he still defends him even tho he knows it could harm him in the house.
I say that is a bloody good friend, if he influenced Bea I think it was only to get her to see that Marcus is not all bad.
He didn't intentionally influence Bea. She just mysteriously matched his opinion, once she knew what it was.
Even if thats the case it's Bea who should get the stick not Freddie, I know your not giving Freddie stick BTW.
Oh she does get stick. She might have fooled the housemates with her fake hippy bullshit, but she hasn't fooled me.
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
I don't see it as trying to influence her but instead sticking to his own views and not allowing her to wash her own over him as she so often attempts to do.
I could see both sides of their argument so I suppose in situations like that you do have to think about anything else that might sway it and in this case, yes, it is the loyalty to Marcus because they have remained friends throughout and I believe Freddie understands him whereas Bea sees a "toddler". I think Bea should take a big step back and not swamp people with her own ideas about how they should be behaving. BB will step in where appropriate. People were picked for different reasons and she should remember that. Marcus needs breathing space and certainly doesn't need a wannabe psychologist reprimanding his behaviour.
I can see her concerns that she thought his actions over the tokens were negative for the group but I liked what Marcus had to say in his defence.
Freddie said to her to "cut (Marcus) some slack" and I agree with that. I was glad that he didn't just sit there nodding his head.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:quote:Originally posted by watcher1:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie puts a high value on friendship. That's an admirable quality in anyone, not just Freddie.
That may be true but I guess that I'd like my friend to be honest enough to tell me (sensitvely) if I'm out of order. I'd value that more as it takes a genuine friend to take a risk like that. I may not like it initially but would admire them once I'd had time to think.
hi watcher. I'm not sure if you are referring to the Freddie/Marcus friendship in your post, or the fact that Freddie told Bea off thereby putting their friendship at risk. But I suspect you may mean the former. Freddie did have a chat with Marcus about his behaviour the other night. Bea poked her beak into that chat as well, but Freddie made it clear to Marcus that he had his support. Freddie is quite diplomatic and he doesn't always voice his support but he implies it rather, by just giving Marcus the time to open up, and to listen. In short, Freddie took the time to listen, sympathise, and comfort Marcus when he was down, way down in the dumps. Just like a real friend does ....
Thanks for this objective post Twee. Really helpful.
I think it was more about him being disloyal to Siavash who was his only friend when nobody else wanted to know ,he was laying into Siavash going on about it was a fake relationship and it could be for the magazine deals etc ,a good friend would not say that knowing we the public dont like false relationships and Magazine deals,he said it all for us he did the same about Chris although we knew it was fake he kept on about them wanting magazine deals,he goes into great detail when he is slating HMS he is trying to manipulate the public against other HMS ,I think it is more a case of trying to get rid of his competition I am sure he knows Siavash is second favourite Bea has a big mouth She probably has told him in my opinion he is playing the clever game .