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Originally posted by Marguerita:
I give my opinion as to how I see it and I know I am probably in the minority were Freddie is concerned,but I dont see him like the way he is portayed on here Valentine

Hug Marguerita I have asked myself after this tonight would he be proud of how folk are responding on his behalf....Honestly I think not.
~Lee~
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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie puts a high value on friendship. That's an admirable quality in anyone, not just Freddie.

Big Grin

That may be true but I guess that I'd like my friend to be honest enough to tell me (sensitvely) if I'm out of order. I'd value that more as it takes a genuine friend to take a risk like that. I may not like it initially but would admire them once I'd had time to think.
W
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by theAteam:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:

That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many times Wink


I think Freddie is alright. He ain't no saint but then no one is.

I wouldn't mind him winning so farThumbs Up

Exactly....This is the thing but lord help us how dare we comment on anything negative. Roll Eyes


We mainly agree on most things Lee, but you`re wrong on your view about negative comments not being taken into account/allowed dare I say about Freddie.

No offence lee but it seems to me you don`t like the answers.
Scotty
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Originally posted by Scotty:

We mainly agree on most things Lee, but you`re wrong on your view about negative comments not being taken into account/allowed dare I say about Freddie.

No offence lee but it seems to me you don`t like the answers.

This thread is point proven Scotty...Need I say any more?...I don't think so....no offence taken btw. Thumbs Up
~Lee~
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.

I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.


I wasn`t replying you Lee but while we`re here..no we can`t. His honest character tells me he`s not. That`s my opinion.
Scotty
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by grannyg:
Marcus always says let me be me I'm here to be
myself Roll Eyes
Freddy should let Bea be Bea Big Grin

Seriously disappointed in Freddy Disappointed

He wouldn't have changed my opinion no waaayyyy Shake Head Smiler

ValentineHi granny g ....Have you still got your tin hat and flak jacket from last year?...If so get them on you'll need them . Big Grin


Hi Lee Valentine I'm at the ready ooooh yeeeah
Got the hat and uniform on Laugh
let's face it we need it now Thumbs Up
grannyg
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.

I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
Why does he not think that way Confused


I`ll take that as question...

His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.
Scotty
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.

I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
Why does he not think that way Confused


I`ll take that as question...

His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.


As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.
B
Freddie has his eye on the prize as do all the HM's I'd be worried if he didn't. It's like a football team turning up to a match expecting to lose, it really wouldn't make sense. Freddie is far from perfect, and even though I am a fan of his I do see his flaws, he is not above scheming, he bitches with the best of them, and his hmmmmm moments get on my nerves. What I do like about Freddie is his loyalty, even when it's a bit misguided with Marcus. Marcus used Freddie to align more votes against Lisa and her pack, I doubt Marcus has the same depth of loyalty to Freddie. Freddie is loyal to Siavash, another HM. who took no part in the habitual bullying from Lisa & co. Freddie feels conflicted because there is friction between the two people he considers mates in the house, Marcus and Siavash, he knows the cause of the friction is Noirin, whom Freddie has realise is totally selfish and insincere. I can understand Freddie's angst.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

We mainly agree on most things Lee, but you`re wrong on your view about negative comments not being taken into account/allowed dare I say about Freddie.

No offence lee but it seems to me you don`t like the answers.

This thread is point proven Scotty...Need I say any more?...I don't think so....no offence taken btw. Thumbs Up


Fm`s are giving their opinions, you don`t agree with most. Fair enough.

What point has been proven Lee?
Scotty
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Freddie has his eye on the prize as do all the HM's I'd be worried if he didn't. It's like a football team turning up to a match expecting to lose, it really wouldn't make sense. Freddie is far from perfect, and even though I am a fan of his I do see his flaws, he is not above scheming, he bitches with the best of them, and his hmmmmm moments get on my nerves. What I do like about Freddie is his loyalty, even when it's a bit misguided with Marcus. Marcus used Freddie to align more votes against Lisa and her pack, I doubt Marcus has the same depth of loyalty to Freddie. Freddie is loyal to Siavash, another HM. who took no part in the habitual bullying from Lisa & co. Freddie feels conflicted because there is friction between the two people he considers mates in the house, Marcus and Siavash, he knows the cause of the friction is Noirin, whom Freddie has realise is totally selfish and insincere. I can understand Freddie's angst.


Also, I think the penny has dropped with him regarding Bea. I think that when he was talking to her while in the bath he realised just how false and scheming she really is and he's probably wondering just how this will affect their friendship!
B
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by grannyg:

Hi Lee Valentine I'm at the ready ooooh yeeeah
Got the hat and uniform on Laugh
let's face it we need it now Thumbs Up


LaughStill as bonkers as ever I see grannyg...great to see you btw how are you?. Hug


I wasn't on for a while LEE but here I am
willing, ready and able (Ithink) being a bit bonkers really helps Nod Crazy Laugh
grannyg
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Originally posted by watcher1:
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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie puts a high value on friendship. That's an admirable quality in anyone, not just Freddie.

Big Grin

That may be true but I guess that I'd like my friend to be honest enough to tell me (sensitvely) if I'm out of order. I'd value that more as it takes a genuine friend to take a risk like that. I may not like it initially but would admire them once I'd had time to think.


hi watcher. I'm not sure if you are referring to the Freddie/Marcus friendship in your post, or the fact that Freddie told Bea off thereby putting their friendship at risk. But I suspect you may mean the former. Freddie did have a chat with Marcus about his behaviour the other night. Bea poked her beak into that chat as well, but Freddie made it clear to Marcus that he had his support. Freddie is quite diplomatic and he doesn't always voice his support but he implies it rather, by just giving Marcus the time to open up, and to listen. In short, Freddie took the time to listen, sympathise, and comfort Marcus when he was down, way down in the dumps. Just like a real friend does ....
Twee Surgeon
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by grannyg:
Marcus always says let me be me I'm here to be
myself Roll Eyes
Freddy should let Bea be Bea Big Grin

Seriously disappointed in Freddy Disappointed

He wouldn't have changed my opinion no waaayyyy Shake Head Smiler

ValentineHi granny g ....Have you still got your tin hat and flak jacket from last year?...If so get them on you'll need them . Big Grin


LOL... I remember that.... and I've still got the missiles for my zimmer primed and ready Laugh Laugh Happy days Big Grin
Baz
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.

I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
Why does he not think that way Confused


I`ll take that as question...

His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.


As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.


What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?

I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours.
Scotty
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:


Fm`s are giving their opinions, you don`t agree with most. Fair enough.

What point has been proven Lee?

Actually I agree with most but what I don't agree with is being dictated to because I asked a question which obviously many took exception to.


I must read back and see who dictated to you..
Scotty
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.

I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
Why does he not think that way Confused


I`ll take that as question...

His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.


As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.


What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?

I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours


Invention? Don't the vast majority of graduates have a student loan to pay back once they start earning? Some take years to get out of debt. Thats the norm these days and I expect his uni cost rather more than some other unis.
B
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.

I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
Why does he not think that way Confused


I`ll take that as question...

His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.


As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.


What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?

I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours


Invention? Don't the vast majority of graduates have a student loan to pay back once they start earning? Some take years to get out of debt. Thats the norm these days and I expect his uni cost rather more than some other unis.


But you don`t know for a FACT if he has student debt or not.
You`re assuming. That`s my point.
Scotty
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.

I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
Why does he not think that way Confused


I`ll take that as question...

His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.


As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.


What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?

I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours


Invention? Don't the vast majority of graduates have a student loan to pay back once they start earning? Some take years to get out of debt. Thats the norm these days and I expect his uni cost rather more than some other unis.


But you don`t know for a FACT if he has student debt or not.
You`re assuming. That`s my point.


I shall rephrase my post.

I assume that Freddie has his student loan to pay back as I haven't read about him being in steady employment since he graduated, therefore I would assume that because he is currently taking part in a game show with prize money I assume he will want to be in with a chance of winning said prize money.
B
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by mrs d:


he is just being a good friend to marcus lee thats what friends do

I'm quite aware of that fact but does it follow that others have to be likewise?....As we know Bea watched the show so is fully aware of all that happened prior to her going in.


Freddie gave his opinion about Marcus, thats all, hardly a shooting offence.
Videostar
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
He does not have a job Scotty and he paints faces in nightclubs for drinks , I am sure he wants to win the money like anyone would ,I dont believe he is in it for the journey none of them are .



i'm sorry but that post really tickled me Marge Laugh

Well i think Freddie has got his feet firmly under the table and i couldn't believe only Bea said anything to Wolfman about losing the tokens why did they all sit there like a bunch of numpties
Shizzlex
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by theAteam:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by jamieboy:
because he remebers that marcus was one of the only ones that befriended halfwit over the lisa and kris bullyin

That's very noble of him but is it that or nominations?


Take off your Freddie sig then if you dont like him. Roll Eyes

Are you darn serious?....Tell you what to do VS you go to the thread and demand they remove me for daring to question something Freddy done eh. Thumbs Up
Freddie can do no wrong Roll Eyes double standards are rife on the forum where Freddie is concerned sorry but it is true in my opinion Nod


Come on Marg, Don't forget Darnell last year Wink
That was last year this is this year I never thought darnell was an angel he rattled my cage many times Wink


But you still supported the self lothing thug.? Smiler
The same way you supported that prat Mario Laugh


Mario never shouted at women or treat them like muck because they turned his advances down. Smiler
Videostar
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by Scotty:

Rubbish. Freddie doesn`t think that way.

I don't think he's in it for the money but that's my opinion....None of us can say how he thinks for sure can we?.
Why does he not think that way Confused


I`ll take that as question...

His beautiful honest character belies monetary values.


As I said earlier in this thread, he probably has his student debt to pay off so he will be in the show to win the money.


What a load of supposed probabilty. Do you have facts about his student debt and indeed if there is any?

I love opinions on this forum but absolutely detest invention..like yours


Invention? Don't the vast majority of graduates have a student loan to pay back once they start earning? Some take years to get out of debt. Thats the norm these days and I expect his uni cost rather more than some other unis.


But you don`t know for a FACT if he has student debt or not.
You`re assuming. That`s my point.


I shall rephrase my post.

I assume that Freddie has his student loan to pay back as I haven't read about him being in steady employment since he graduated, therefore I would assume that because he is currently taking part in a game show with prize money I assume he will want to be in with a chance of winning said prize money.


You assume too much. Freddie has been gainfully employed quite a bit since he left Uni.
You carry on assuming what you assume.
We`re going nowhere together BB.
I`m off to have some cheesecake with scooshy cream. See ya, thanks for the banter Wave Valentine
Scotty
Freddie's family own a stately home surrounded by 100 acres. He has been privately educated, which costs an arm and a leg. He probably has never been short of money in his life because of his parent's wealth. So, no, I don't think Freddie's real aim in coming on the show was purely about money. But I'm sure he would like to win it. He'd be a fool not to think this way. But I think Freddie is all about fair play. If he wins it, he wins it fair and square. And by his performance so far he has shown that he is playing the game rather well. The Public seem to like him anyway, and that's all that matters in the end.

Big Grin
Twee Surgeon

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