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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by MrsB:

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by MrsB:
Halls of Residence like the students have should be sufficient...room for desk, bed and spare clothes...and a shared kitchen!!!

That's all very well, until you have to fit a family in there.

Unless you only want single people with no kids in parliament!

But why do they need to move their families to London?? Surely their main home should be in their constiuency....

Because they are expected to sit in Parliament, or attend cabinet meetings, or run the country even, and living hundreds of miles away could make it a little difficult, either for their work, or their family life.

That's why the system of second homes was set up.

Shame that it became a way to feather those nests, for some, but a system is needed, if we don't want to limit our choices of politicians.

We don't want to go back to only having those with 'family money' in parliament.

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Originally posted by electric6:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

I didn't write it in the first place

Come now the lad was only having a laugh...

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
You actually believe we have power in Europe now the way things are We import more from Europe now than we export. They would miss us greatly as an export market. We have great trading links with the wider Commonwealth. If we are manufacturing again then its up to our salesmen to go out and find markets for our goods.

Undoubtedly we have power.

I'm about to finish my lunch break but I'll leave a final thought. How do we make the transition from EU member to non EU country? I think it would cost us an absolute fortune and throw loads of people onto the dole queue. We could plan it over some years I suppose but now is surely a terrible time. The last thing we need is uncertainty as far as the sovereign wealth funds and the other international lenders are concerned who are keeping us afloat at the moment.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by bozzimacoo:
It will become like some of those former Eastern Bloc countries, like Bulgaria or Romania. No pavements, bad roads, a shoddy health service, low wages, bad housing, because there will just not be the money to pay for it all which we take for granted today.

Sounds just like Leeds or Warrington to me.

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

You get sick and tired of being the butt of barbed jokes by Labour party supporters. On here you don't dare to diss the Guardian but the Daily Mail, oh yes fair game.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by electric6:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

I didn't write it in the first place

Come now the lad was only having a laugh...

You get sick and tired of being the butt of barbed jokes by Labour party supporters. On here you don't dare to diss the Guardian but the Daily Mail, oh yes fair game.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by electric6:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

I didn't write it in the first place

Come now the lad was only having a laugh...

You get sick and tired of being the butt of barbed jokes by Labour party supporters. On here you don't dare to diss the Guardian but the Daily Mail, oh yes fair game.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by electric6:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

I didn't write it in the first place

Come now the lad was only having a laugh...

You get sick and tired of being the butt of barbed jokes by Labour party supporters. On here you don't dare to diss the Guardian but the Daily Mail, oh yes fair game.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

Would any Guardian reader care? Daily Mail readers have inferiority and/or persecution complexes. That's probably why they read the Daily Mail in the first place. There must be some good reason for reading a comic like that.

*runs away*

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Originally posted by electric6:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

You get sick and tired of being the butt of barbed jokes by Labour party supporters. On here you don't dare to diss the Guardian but the Daily Mail, oh yes fair game.

Mail reader does not =Tory, necessarily.
Guardian reader certainly does not = Labour Supporter.

And dissing a newspaper is not a personal insult, unless you own it...I don't think you do?

Surely you get more stick for being a BB fan

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Undoubtedly we have power.

I'm about to finish my lunch break but I'll leave a final thought. How do we make the transition from EU member to non EU country? I think it would cost us an absolute fortune and throw loads of people onto the dole queue. We could plan it over some years I suppose but now is surely a terrible time. The last thing we need is uncertainty as far as the sovereign wealth funds and the other international lenders are concerned who are keeping us afloat at the moment.

And if its the will of the majority of people in this country??

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

Would any Guardian reader care? Daily Mail readers have inferiority and/or persecution complexes. That's probably why they read the Daily Mail in the first place. There must be some good reason for reading a comic like that.

*runs away*

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Originally posted by MrsB:


Have to agree with Squiggle here. I don't read either the Daily Mail or the Guardian...but it does always seem to be the left crtisisng the right...not the other way round.

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Originally posted by MrsB:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by electric6:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

I didn't write it in the first place

Come now the lad was only having a laugh...

You get sick and tired of being the butt of barbed jokes by Labour party supporters. On here you don't dare to diss the Guardian but the Daily Mail, oh yes fair game.

Have to agree with Squiggle here. I don't read either the Daily Mail or the Guardian...but it does always seem to be the left crtisisng the right...not the other way round.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

Oh yes! I remember bread being 17p one week (out of my £15 weekly wage) and rising to about 23p the next week. Might not be quite the right figures, but it was a huge rise, and, put simply, I could not afford to buy bread under Labour. I was a Labour voter then, but never since. And I've never been so hungry since, either.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
You actually believe we have power in Europe now the way things are We import more from Europe now than we export. They would miss us greatly as an export market. We have great trading links with the wider Commonwealth. If we are manufacturing again then its up to our salesmen to go out and find markets for our goods.

Undoubtedly we have power.

I'm about to finish my lunch break but I'll leave a final thought. How do we make the transition from EU member to non EU country? I think it would cost us an absolute fortune and throw loads of people onto the dole queue. We could plan it over some years I suppose but now is surely a terrible time. The last thing we need is uncertainty as far as the sovereign wealth funds and the other international lenders are concerned who are keeping us afloat at the moment.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Come on play nice peeps

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Originally posted by electric6:
Oh dear, this has all gone very black and white here.
Calling grey, calling grey, where are you?

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Would any Guardian reader care? Daily Mail readers have inferiority and/or persecution complexes. That's probably why they read the Daily Mail in the first place. There must be some good reason for reading a comic like that.

*runs away*

I am a telegraph reading socialist!Now theres a joke!

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Come on play nice peeps

Fancy a brew Flaps??I'll put the kettle on

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Would any Guardian reader care? Daily Mail readers have inferiority and/or persecution complexes. That's probably why they read the Daily Mail in the first place. There must be some good reason for reading a comic like that.

*runs away*

I am a telegraph reading socialist!Now theres a joke!

Deviant.

Do you say: "know your enemy" every time you buy it?

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

Oh yes! I remember bread being 17p one week (out of my £15 weekly wage) and rising to about 23p the next week. Might not be quite the right figures, but it was a huge rise, and, put simply, I could not afford to buy bread under Labour. I was a Labour voter then, but never since. And I've never been so hungry since, either.

well there ya go see, different strokes for different folks,
cause under THATCHER (sorry for the filthy laguage everyone)
in fact mainly throughout the entire 80,s I was made redundant something like 8 times in ten years, as job after job after job, went as companies either got closed down,
(I worked in the steel industry, the mines, and the pottery industry amongst others,)
or moved abroad taking advantage of the "free" market and sacking their UK workers so they could set up sweat shops in less "regulated" parts of the world,
shamlessly taking advantage of near slave labour, in order to vastly increase their proffits,
(kinda gives ya an insight into what they would LIKE to be able to get away with HERE)
and when I DID manage to get a job, she had crippled the unions and striped workers of their employment rights to the extent that the bosses could treat you as they wished and get away with it,
I was once sacked because I dared to turn up to work on a cold winters day on my motorbike wearing my full leathers, yes, NO other reason, I remember the bosses words,
"get out and dont come back, this is an artist studio NOT a hells angels club house"
and of course as I had worked there for less than 2 years and there was NO union, there was nothing I could do,
bosses demanding that you work overtime with no extra rate, "if you dont like it there are plenty on the dole who take your place"
working for a wage I couldnt live on, yet I couldnt just leave or my benefit would be stopped, almost losing the roof over my head because I was working, but couldnt pay the rent, and there was NO help with such things for the low paid,
YEAH great days and I cant wait for them to return when the eaton mafia are running the country again,

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Come on play nice peeps

Fancy a brew Flaps??I'll put the kettle on

You make the tea Mazz, and l'll rustle up the cucumber butties and Victoria Sponge cake. Went down a treat last time, if I remember

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
but we were dragged into the eu without wanting to be, i'm pretty sure that most of the country would be keen to work towards getting us out of it, after all what would we have to lose, a few hundred euro-jobs that we could soon replace with jobs created by tax reductions made from saving billions of pounds we currently pay into supporting the eu, i'd bet it cost the eu more that it would cost us.

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Come on play nice peeps

Fancy a brew Flaps??I'll put the kettle on

You make the tea Mazz, and l'll rustle up the cucumber butties and Victoria Sponge cake. Went down a treat last time, if I remember

Make sure Dan eats his crusts

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

Oh yes! I remember bread being 17p one week (out of my £15 weekly wage) and rising to about 23p the next week. Might not be quite the right figures, but it was a huge rise, and, put simply, I could not afford to buy bread under Labour. I was a Labour voter then, but never since. And I've never been so hungry since, either.

I was once sacked because I dared to turn up to work on a cold winters day on my motorbike wearing my full leathers, yes, NO other reason, I remember the bosses words,
"get out and dont come back, this is an artist studio NOT a hells angels club house"

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Come on play nice peeps

Fancy a brew Flaps??I'll put the kettle on

You make the tea Mazz, and l'll rustle up the cucumber butties and Victoria Sponge cake. Went down a treat last time, if I remember

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
but we were dragged into the eu without wanting to be, i'm pretty sure that most of the country would be keen to work towards getting us out of it, after all what would we have to lose, a few hundred euro-jobs that we could soon replace with jobs created by tax reductions made from saving billions of pounds we currently pay into supporting the eu, i'd bet it cost the eu more that it would cost us.

Crikey, I really must get back to work ... but I think it would be more impact than that. I have no idea how to quantify this but I'm thinking that we're in a tariff-free zone operating in a defined trade environment (such as product quality, trade marks, certifications) and there are lots and lots of small companies dealing with other parts of the EU who would have to revisit their contracts and trade and vice versa.

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

Oh yes! I remember bread being 17p one week (out of my £15 weekly wage) and rising to about 23p the next week. Might not be quite the right figures, but it was a huge rise, and, put simply, I could not afford to buy bread under Labour. I was a Labour voter then, but never since. And I've never been so hungry since, either.

well there ya go see, different strokes for different folks,
cause under THATCHER (sorry for the filthy laguage everyone)
in fact mainly throughout the entire 80,s I was made redundant something like 8 times in ten years, as job after job after job, went as companies either got closed down,
(I worked in the steel industry, the mines, and the pottery industry amongst others,)
or moved abroad taking advantage of the "free" market and sacking their UK workers so they could set up sweat shops in less "regulated" parts of the world,
shamlessly taking advantage of near slave labour, in order to vastly increase their proffits,
(kinda gives ya an insight into what they would LIKE to be able to get away with HERE)
and when I DID manage to get a job, she had crippled the unions and striped workers of their employment rights to the extent that the bosses could treat you as they wished and get away with it,
I was once sacked because I dared to turn up to work on a cold winters day on my motorbike wearing my full leathers, yes, NO other reason, I remember the bosses words,
"get out and dont come back, this is an artist studio NOT a hells angels club house"
and of course as I had worked there for less than 2 years and there was NO union, there was nothing I could do,
bosses demanding that you work overtime with no extra rate, "if you dont like it there are plenty on the dole who take your place"
working for a wage I couldnt live on, yet I couldnt just leave or my benefit would be stopped, almost losing the roof over my head because I was working, but couldnt pay the rent, and there was NO help with such things for the low paid,
YEAH great days and I cant wait for them to return when the eaton mafia are running the country again,

terrible times

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

Would any Guardian reader care? Daily Mail readers have inferiority and/or persecution complexes. That's probably why they read the Daily Mail in the first place. There must be some good reason for reading a comic like that.

*runs away*

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Oh dear indeed try making a similar joke about the Guardian and see how you get on then.

Would any Guardian reader care? Daily Mail readers have inferiority and/or persecution complexes. That's probably why they read the Daily Mail in the first place. There must be some good reason for reading a comic like that.

*runs away*

I really don't understand this inverted snobbery against the Daily Mail. Most people who make disparaging remarks about the paper and its readers have probably never actually read it, so they don't know what they are talking about. They're just repeating a mantra they picked up somewhere which they think sounds clever.

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:


see the front page every day in the newsagent.....thats enough for me

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There must be some good reason for reading a comic like that

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
You actually believe we have power in Europe now the way things are We import more from Europe now than we export. They would miss us greatly as an export market. We have great trading links with the wider Commonwealth. If we are manufacturing again then its up to our salesmen to go out and find markets for our goods.

Undoubtedly we have power.

I'm about to finish my lunch break but I'll leave a final thought. How do we make the transition from EU member to non EU country? I think it would cost us an absolute fortune and throw loads of people onto the dole queue. We could plan it over some years I suppose but now is surely a terrible time. The last thing we need is uncertainty as far as the sovereign wealth funds and the other international lenders are concerned who are keeping us afloat at the moment.

but we were dragged into the eu without wanting to be, i'm pretty sure that most of the country would be keen to work towards getting us out of it, after all what would we have to lose, a few hundred euro-jobs that we could soon replace with jobs created by tax reductions made from saving billions of pounds we currently pay into supporting the eu, i'd bet it cost the eu more that it would cost us.