They are gaining seats all over the country...I dont understand it, as I feel they were the worst offenders 
Are people REALLY that forgiving or just plain stupid
Are people REALLY that forgiving or just plain stupid
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because the punters think its a new thing
they dont realise the thing has been goin on for yrs but there was no trail back then its the nulab who tightened things up now its bit them in the fat ass
they dont realise the thing has been goin on for yrs but there was no trail back then its the nulab who tightened things up now its bit them in the fat ass
errr that would be plain stupid 
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
They are gaining seats all over the country...I dont understand it, as I feel they were the worst offenders
Are people REALLY that forgiving or just plain stupid
Why are they the worst offenders?
Oh and good on them for gaining all those seats
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
They are gaining seats all over the country...I dont understand it, as I feel they were the worst offenders
Are people REALLY that forgiving or just plain stupid
Why are they the worst offenders?
Oh and good on them for gaining all those seats
I know your a Tory Liverpoollass, but read the papers they are indeed the worst offenders in the expenses scandal, and I don't understand why they have either Lockes, tbh whoever is in power when things go tits up will get the blame, but for me the man in the seat is the only option at the moment to get us out of this god awful place we find ourselves in.
We only hear about the ones that do not the ones that don;t of which there are plenty...my local (labour) MP for instance claimed nothing.
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
They are gaining seats all over the country...I dont understand it, as I feel they were the worst offenders
Are people REALLY that forgiving or just plain stupid
They are not the worst offenders its just that some of the things on their lists made good headlines. Cleaning moats and buying duck houses is so much more headline making than fiddling your mortgage and flipping your homes, both of which loads of Labour MP's have been guilty of. It really is bad on both sides.
quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I know your a Tory Liverpoollass, but read the papers they are indeed the worst offenders in the expenses scandal, and I don't understand why they have either Lockes, tbh whoever is in power when things go tits up will get the blame, but for me the man in the seat is the only option at the moment to get us out of this god awful place we find ourselves in.
Thing is though, I don't think it is just the expenses scandal that are causing people to vote Conservative. I think it is the fact that Labour are finished and we have a government in crisis who have, over a period of time, put this country in crisis.
No way, are they worst than Labour in this expenses scandal. It just looks good to bash the Tories again
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
We only hear about the ones that do not the ones that don;t of which there are plenty...my local (labour) MP for instance claimed nothing.
Hi Croc, don't suppose it makes good reading to
hear someones not fiddling, being honest and a Labour MP.
They were all at it, i am not happy voting for any of them.
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
We only hear about the ones that do not the ones that don;t of which there are plenty...my local (labour) MP for instance claimed nothing.
I think there must be quite a few, in all the parties, who are not fiddling their expenses but unfortunately the ones that are have tarred all MP's with the same brush.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I know your a Tory Liverpoollass, but read the papers they are indeed the worst offenders in the expenses scandal, and I don't understand why they have either Lockes, tbh whoever is in power when things go tits up will get the blame, but for me the man in the seat is the only option at the moment to get us out of this god awful place we find ourselves in.
Thing is though, I don't think it is just the expenses scandal that are causing people to vote Conservative. I think it is the fact that Labour are finished and we have a government in crisis who have, over a period of time, put this country in crisis.
see I do think its the anger of the expenses scandal but also to a degree the recession too, but if the Tories were in place let me tell you, they'd leave a lot of people to rot in this recession. At least GB and the likes have tried to stem the damage a little and yes I know have put this country into debt for many years to come, but what was the alternative?
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I know your a Tory Liverpoollass, but read the papers they are indeed the worst offenders in the expenses scandal, and I don't understand why they have either Lockes, tbh whoever is in power when things go tits up will get the blame, but for me the man in the seat is the only option at the moment to get us out of this god awful place we find ourselves in.
Thing is though, I don't think it is just the expenses scandal that are causing people to vote Conservative. I think it is the fact that Labour are finished and we have a government in crisis who have, over a period of time, put this country in crisis.
No way, are they worst than Labour in this expenses scandal. It just looks good to bash the Tories again
Good morning Lass and well said. The economy of this country is in a terrible condition and getting worse under Labour. Its no good saying its the same the whole world over because there's no doubt its worse here, and worse than I have ever known it. Labour are not even trying to govern now they are just squabbling among themselves like a group of overgrown children. We need to cut through this mess and try to put things right.
They are all on the fiddle gordon brown seems to be getting all the blame though
quote:They are not the worst offenders its just that some of the things on their lists made good headlines.
surely it's 6 of one, half a dozen
of another.
How do you measure if one offence is
worse than another.
quote:Originally posted by wandawitch:
They are all on the fiddle gordon brown seems to be getting all the blame though
In a word wandawitch he is incompetent.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I know your a Tory Liverpoollass, but read the papers they are indeed the worst offenders in the expenses scandal, and I don't understand why they have either Lockes, tbh whoever is in power when things go tits up will get the blame, but for me the man in the seat is the only option at the moment to get us out of this god awful place we find ourselves in.
Thing is though, I don't think it is just the expenses scandal that are causing people to vote Conservative. I think it is the fact that Labour are finished and we have a government in crisis who have, over a period of time, put this country in crisis.
No way, are they worst than Labour in this expenses scandal. It just looks good to bash the Tories again
Good morning Lass and well said. The economy of this country is in a terrible condition and getting worse under Labour. Its no good saying its the same the whole world over because there's no doubt its worse here, and worse than I have ever known it. Labour are not even trying to govern now they are just squabbling among themselves like a group of overgrown children. We need to cut through this mess and try to put things right.
sorry squiggle but you are either young or have a short memory if you think this is the worst the country has ever been in
I think it's because it is Labour MP's who have been most guilty of "flipping" 2nd homes especially as many of them are/were ministers with grace and favour homes.
Gordon Brown was also less than consistent in his condemnation of those who had been caught out.
Gordon Brown was also less than consistent in his condemnation of those who had been caught out.
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I know your a Tory Liverpoollass, but read the papers they are indeed the worst offenders in the expenses scandal, and I don't understand why they have either Lockes, tbh whoever is in power when things go tits up will get the blame, but for me the man in the seat is the only option at the moment to get us out of this god awful place we find ourselves in.
Thing is though, I don't think it is just the expenses scandal that are causing people to vote Conservative. I think it is the fact that Labour are finished and we have a government in crisis who have, over a period of time, put this country in crisis.
No way, are they worst than Labour in this expenses scandal. It just looks good to bash the Tories again
Good morning Lass and well said. The economy of this country is in a terrible condition and getting worse under Labour. Its no good saying its the same the whole world over because there's no doubt its worse here, and worse than I have ever known it. Labour are not even trying to govern now they are just squabbling among themselves like a group of overgrown children. We need to cut through this mess and try to put things right.
sorry squiggle but you are either young or have a short memory if you think this is the worst the country has ever been in
I am afraid that I am neither. I am almost certainly older than you and I have a very very good memory. Thing is its not easy to pull the wool over my eyes.
quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
I think it's because it is Labour MP's who have been most guilty of "flipping" 2nd homes especially as many of them are/were ministers with grace and favour homes.
Gordon Brown was also less than consistent in his condemnation of those who had been caught out.
And Gordon Brown was flipping with the best of 'em!!
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Good morning Lass and well said. The economy of this country is in a terrible condition and getting worse under Labour. Its no good saying its the same the whole world over because there's no doubt its worse here, and worse than I have ever known it. Labour are not even trying to govern now they are just squabbling among themselves like a group of overgrown children. We need to cut through this mess and try to put things right.
Morning squiggle
Absolutely agree, but I fear we are, once again,
My local Tory MP has been fiddling.His second home(in his constituency) is ex local authority yet has been furnished with antique and bespoke furniture..purchased by a certain leader of the oppostions ma in law.
The reason Labour have been targetted is because it was the Torygraph broke the story first and exposed the Labour MPs indiscretions first.
The reason Labour have been targetted is because it was the Torygraph broke the story first and exposed the Labour MPs indiscretions first.
Also as Labour are in power so therefore have a majority they had a better chance of sorting out these expenses since the threatened publication started a couple of years ago. They chose to not reform these rules and in fact set about trying every trick in the book to prevent their publication at the tax payers expense as usual.
*goes to put kettle on*
Parliament should buy a block of flats somewhere and furnish all the flats the same...any MP who needs a London base could then have the keys to one for the duration of their MP-ship.
A basic subsistance allowance should be paid whilst they are in London..anything else they should pay for themselves.
Sorted.
A basic subsistance allowance should be paid whilst they are in London..anything else they should pay for themselves.
Sorted.
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
My local Tory MP has been fiddling.His second home(in his constituency) is ex local authority yet has been furnished with antique and bespoke furniture..purchased by a certain leader of the oppostions ma in law.
The reason Labour have been targetted is because it was the Torygraph broke the story first and exposed the Labour MPs indiscretions first.
Ironically the Telegraph is owned by the extremely secretive/private Barclay twins. Once attempted to sue Private Eye magazine for revealing their date of birth.
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Parliament should buy a block of flats somewhere and furnish all the flats the same...any MP who needs a London base could then have the keys to one for the duration of their MP-ship.
A basic subsistance allowance should be paid whilst they are in London..anything else they should pay for themselves.
Sorted.
That is exactly what I said to my OH the other night
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Good morning Lass and well said. The economy of this country is in a terrible condition and getting worse under Labour. Its no good saying its the same the whole world over because there's no doubt its worse here, and worse than I have ever known it. Labour are not even trying to govern now they are just squabbling among themselves like a group of overgrown children. We need to cut through this mess and try to put things right.
Morning squiggle
Absolutely agree, but I fear we are, once again,
Hi Lass, I know its uphill work but I will keep saying it because otherwise more gullible people will really believe that the Tories are the only ones found with their hands in the cookie jar and poor old Labour are squeaky clean. They have been a really poor government and now that the game is up I guess I will just have to keep on 'telling it like it is'
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Parliament should buy a block of flats somewhere and furnish all the flats the same...any MP who needs a London base could then have the keys to one for the duration of their MP-ship.
A basic subsistance allowance should be paid whilst they are in London..anything else they should pay for themselves.
Sorted.
That is exactly what I said to my OH the other night
I think they do something like that for the Senate in the US....
I sent Jacqui Smith a bath plug after it was revealed she had claimed for an 88pence one on her one of her 2nd second homes.
I apologised for not sending a plasma television but suggested she took the 1st plasma tv from her 1st nominated 2nd home along to her 2nd second nominated home.
I have yet to have any response from her.
I apologised for not sending a plasma television but suggested she took the 1st plasma tv from her 1st nominated 2nd home along to her 2nd second nominated home.
I have yet to have any response from her.
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
My local Tory MP has been fiddling.His second home(in his constituency) is ex local authority yet has been furnished with antique and bespoke furniture..purchased by a certain leader of the oppostions ma in law.
The reason Labour have been targetted is because it was the Torygraph broke the story first and exposed the Labour MPs indiscretions first.
An unbiased viewpoint would tell you that there are faults on both sides in the expenses scandal. Unfortunately Labour have no-one else to blame but themselves for all the other things that are wrong with this country at the moment.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Hi Lass, I know its uphill work but I will keep saying it because otherwise more gullible people will really believe that the Tories are the only ones found with their hands in the cookie jar and poor old Labour are squeaky clean. They have been a really poor government and now that the game is up I guess I will just have to keep on 'telling it like it is'
Good on you! You have more stamina than me squiggle
I just feel it doesn't matter what you say, because people that hate the Tories will never change their minds or listen quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
I sent Jacqui Smith a bath plug after it was revealed she had claimed for an 88pence one on her one of her 2nd second homes.
I apologised for not sending a plasma television but suggested she took the 1st plasma tv from her 1st nominated 2nd home along to her 2nd second nominated home.
I have yet to have any response from her.
How rude of her
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Parliament should buy a block of flats somewhere and furnish all the flats the same...any MP who needs a London base could then have the keys to one for the duration of their MP-ship.
A basic subsistance allowance should be paid whilst they are in London..anything else they should pay for themselves.
Sorted.
That is exactly what I said to my OH the other night
And what I said on this forum about 3 weeks ago!! Obviously great minds think alike
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Parliament should buy a block of flats somewhere and furnish all the flats the same...any MP who needs a London base could then have the keys to one for the duration of their MP-ship.
A basic subsistance allowance should be paid whilst they are in London..anything else they should pay for themselves.
Sorted.
That is exactly what I said to my OH the other night
And what I said on this forum about 3 weeks ago!! Obviously great minds think alike
I was on holiday then!
(At my own expense)
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Hi Lass, I know its uphill work but I will keep saying it because otherwise more gullible people will really believe that the Tories are the only ones found with their hands in the cookie jar and poor old Labour are squeaky clean. They have been a really poor government and now that the game is up I guess I will just have to keep on 'telling it like it is'
Good on you! You have more stamina than me squiggle
Even dyed-in-the-wool Labour voters are getting fed up with this shower now Lass
the worst one for me, was the labour mp who claimed back a ÂĢ5 charity donation, honest mistake he said , being all confused and remorseful on the telly, whata load of ballcocks, his mate made the donation and asked for the fiver back, the mp gives him the fiver back and asks for a receipt.
mistake my arse, only one reason you'd want a receipt.
mistake my arse, only one reason you'd want a receipt.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Hi Lass, I know its uphill work but I will keep saying it because otherwise more gullible people will really believe that the Tories are the only ones found with their hands in the cookie jar and poor old Labour are squeaky clean. They have been a really poor government and now that the game is up I guess I will just have to keep on 'telling it like it is'
Good on you! You have more stamina than me squiggle
Even dyed-in-the-wool Labour voters are getting fed up with this shower now Lass
Thats me...but as I say my own MP is one of the good ones....and a good constituency MP to boot...it would be a shame to lose him because of the actions of others.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Parliament should buy a block of flats somewhere and furnish all the flats the same...any MP who needs a London base could then have the keys to one for the duration of their MP-ship.
A basic subsistance allowance should be paid whilst they are in London..anything else they should pay for themselves.
Sorted.
That is exactly what I said to my OH the other night
And what I said on this forum about 3 weeks ago!! Obviously great minds think alike
Maybe once the Olympics are over they can use the Olmpic Village, already owned by the Government I think!