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Originally posted by carotino:
No sympathy for either of them.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
I'm not sympathising with Siavash, but he isn't behaving like a nutjob, control freak, aggressive tosspot, like Marcus.

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Originally posted by shar69:
Why does Marcus deserve sympathy? I certainly don't think Siavash is eye candy and I have no sympathy for Siavash either. Marcus has been told from the get go, by Noirin, that they are friends and will never ever be anything more. This bad editing that you speak of, there are a lot of hm's that have fallen victim to this, especially this year. I got to be honest, I base my opinion on the hm's from overnight streaming and not the hl show.

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“Well, obviously he fancies you and you don’t fancy him back so that is one level of upset,” explained Halfwit. “But what’s driving that more is the feeling that you’ve led him on,” he added to the shock of Noirin.

“How though?” she gasped.

“It’s definitely a vibe that I picked up on – that both of you knew there was no way you two would hook up, but you were still kind of entertaining that in the way you were acting,” he explained to the continued gasps from Noirin.

“How though? Give me examples,” she demanded, “I’ve told him a number of times I’m not interested.”

“The words you say are a very small part of the communication,” Halfwit explained. “It’s not as straightforward as that. I do think that after a certain point, you were obviously awkward. Before that point, you might have been saying you were just friends, but you were communicating interest. Unfortunately, by this time Marcus had allowed himself to emotionally invest in the situation.”

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
I'm not sympathising with Siavash, but he isn't behaving like a nutjob, control freak, aggressive tosspot, like Marcus.

True, he's worse.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
I'm not sympathising with Siavash, but he isn't behaving like a nutjob, control freak, aggressive tosspot, like Marcus.

True, he's worse.

How?

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

http://linkbee.com/BLLSP

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“Well, obviously he fancies you and you don’t fancy him back so that is one level of upset,” explained Halfwit. “But what’s driving that more is the feeling that you’ve led him on,” he added to the shock of Noirin.

“How though?” she gasped.

“It’s definitely a vibe that I picked up on – that both of you knew there was no way you two would hook up, but you were still kind of entertaining that in the way you were acting,” he explained to the continued gasps from Noirin.

“How though? Give me examples,” she demanded, “I’ve told him a number of times I’m not interested.”

“The words you say are a very small part of the communication,” Halfwit explained. “It’s not as straightforward as that. I do think that after a certain point, you were obviously awkward. Before that point, you might have been saying you were just friends, but you were communicating interest. Unfortunately, by this time Marcus had allowed himself to emotionally invest in the situation.”

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Because: Marcus is mostly aggressive, controlling, threatening, oppositional, troublemaking, intimidating, backstabbing, arrogant and scares the wits out of me. Siavash is mostly sensitive, kind, measured, thoughtful, mild-mannered and respectful......Nothing to do with looks.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

http://linkbee.com/BLLSP

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“Well, obviously he fancies you and you don’t fancy him back so that is one level of upset,” explained Halfwit. “But what’s driving that more is the feeling that you’ve led him on,” he added to the shock of Noirin.

“How though?” she gasped.

“It’s definitely a vibe that I picked up on – that both of you knew there was no way you two would hook up, but you were still kind of entertaining that in the way you were acting,” he explained to the continued gasps from Noirin.

“How though? Give me examples,” she demanded, “I’ve told him a number of times I’m not interested.”

“The words you say are a very small part of the communication,” Halfwit explained. “It’s not as straightforward as that. I do think that after a certain point, you were obviously awkward. Before that point, you might have been saying you were just friends, but you were communicating interest. Unfortunately, by this time Marcus had allowed himself to emotionally invest in the situation.”

Is this a male thing then?
Ignoring words and looking for other clues?



I love Freddie, but he has shown a lack of understanding certain situations in the house!

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Cheating on his GF on national TV.

I can only imagine the amount of threads flooding the forum if that were Marcus. But it's Siavash so it's okay.

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Originally posted by Mollie:
It's simple really.... she never lead marcus on as she never ever fancied him, and made it perfectly clear that friendship was the only option for them

Siavash was lead to believe they felt the same way.. therefore a good reason to go forward towards a relationship! only for Noirin to back peddle!! (wonder did she get a hint about her boyfriend possibly coming into the house>?!

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
No, it's a human communication thing.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Cheating on his GF on national TV.

I can only imagine the amount of threads flooding the forum if that were Marcus. But it's Siavash so it's okay.

I've criticised him for that, but I'd still rather that than someone completely unhinged like Marcus.

Did you watch live feed, last night?

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Because: Marcus is mostly aggressive, controlling, threatening, oppositional, troublemaking, intimidating, backstabbing, arrogant and scares the wits out of me. Siavash is mostly sensitive, kind, measured, thoughtful, mild-mannered and respectful......Nothing to do with looks.

Power of the edit.

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Cheating on his GF on national TV.

I can only imagine the amount of threads flooding the forum if that were Marcus. But it's Siavash so it's okay.

I've criticised him for that, but I'd still rather that than someone completely unhinged like Marcus.

Did you watch live feed, last night?

Yes.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
No, it's a human communication thing.

Oh, I understand that, but do you understand that 'no' means 'no'?

Women do tend to be better with language and picking up on people's true feelings.

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
I'm not sympathising with Siavash, but he isn't behaving like a nutjob, control freak, aggressive tosspot, like Marcus.

True, he's worse.

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by shar69:
Why does Marcus deserve sympathy? I certainly don't think Siavash is eye candy and I have no sympathy for Siavash either. Marcus has been told from the get go, by Noirin, that they are friends and will never ever be anything more. This bad editing that you speak of, there are a lot of hm's that have fallen victim to this, especially this year. I got to be honest, I base my opinion on the hm's from overnight streaming and not the hl show.

http://linkbee.com/BLLSP

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“Well, obviously he fancies you and you don’t fancy him back so that is one level of upset,” explained Halfwit. “But what’s driving that more is the feeling that you’ve led him on,” he added to the shock of Noirin.

“How though?” she gasped.

“It’s definitely a vibe that I picked up on – that both of you knew there was no way you two would hook up, but you were still kind of entertaining that in the way you were acting,” he explained to the continued gasps from Noirin.

“How though? Give me examples,” she demanded, “I’ve told him a number of times I’m not interested.”

“The words you say are a very small part of the communication,” Halfwit explained. “It’s not as straightforward as that. I do think that after a certain point, you were obviously awkward. Before that point, you might have been saying you were just friends, but you were communicating interest. Unfortunately, by this time Marcus had allowed himself to emotionally invest in the situation.”

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
The meaning is lost when it's followed by sitting on his lap, rolling around on the bed with him and.. goodness knows what else that we aren't seeing in the edit show.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Marcus has been a friend to Noirin (more than Siavash has really) so yeh I think Noirin should have been more upfront to him about liking others in the house. She was just trying to play different men simultaneously in the end to strengthen her position. Ironically I don't think she really needed to do that.

The house situation isn't really about 'love' in the normal sense, it's about friendships and alliances. Noirin by going behind Marcus's back has broken that. Luckily for her they may send her ex in which will give her another ally in the house, it may be too late for her by then though.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Cheating on his GF on national TV.

I can only imagine the amount of threads flooding the forum if that were Marcus. But it's Siavash so it's okay.

I've criticised him for that, but I'd still rather that than someone completely unhinged like Marcus.

Did you watch live feed, last night?

Yes.

Then you saw Marcus with Tom?
You saw him talking to Charlie afterwards, twisting every word?
You saw him talking to Bea and Freddie, twisting the way people treat him in the house?
You saw him trying to control Noirin's every thought and action?

You think that's normal behaviour?

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Marcus has been a friend to Noirin (more than Siavash has really) so yeh I think Noirin should have been more upfront to him about liking others in the house. She was just trying to play different men simultaneously in the end to strengthen her position. Ironically I don't think she really needed to do that.

The house situation isn't really about 'love' in the normal sense, it's about friendships and alliances. Noirin by going behind Marcus's back has broken that. Luckily for her they may send her ex in which will give her another ally in the house, it may be too late for her by then though.

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Originally posted by shar69:Oh right, so because Freddie said so. Sorry but Freddie is not the all seeing, all knowing one. You seem to be forgetting that Freddie also, at one point, was infatuated with Noirin. How am I to know that Freddie is not saying this with a tinge of bitterness? This conversation wouldn't be an 'heavily edited' release by C4 would it.

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
No but it's not a normal situation.

Life in there is very different from the outside world and Noirin has been playing mind games on Marcus for weeks, and yes.. he isn't handling it well, that much is true.

Love is a powerful emotion. it can make fools of the best of us and the BB house is one of the worst places to feel these sort of emotions.

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

No but it's not a normal situation.

Life in there is very different from the outside world and Noirin has been playing mind games on Marcus for weeks, and yes.. he isn't handling it well, that much is true.

Love is a powerful emotion. it can make fools of the best of us and the BB house is one of the worst places to feel these sort of emotions.

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Marcus has been a friend to Noirin (more than Siavash has really) so yeh I think Noirin should have been more upfront to him about liking others in the house. She was just trying to play different men simultaneously in the end to strengthen her position. Ironically I don't think she really needed to do that.

The house situation isn't really about 'love' in the normal sense, it's about friendships and alliances. Noirin by going behind Marcus's back has broken that. Luckily for her they may send her ex in which will give her another ally in the house, it may be too late for her by then though.

Yes the situation isn't a normal one. So your saying that Noirin has broken the friendship by going behind Marcus' back. If thats the case then Marcus broke it way before Noirin by going behind her back and slating her to every single one of the other housemates. He has been doing this for weeks.

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:

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Originally posted by shar69:Oh right, so because Freddie said so. Sorry but Freddie is not the all seeing, all knowing one. You seem to be forgetting that Freddie also, at one point, was infatuated with Noirin. How am I to know that Freddie is not saying this with a tinge of bitterness? This conversation wouldn't be an 'heavily edited' release by C4 would it.

When was Freddie infatuated with Noirin?

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:

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Originally posted by shar69:Oh right, so because Freddie said so. Sorry but Freddie is not the all seeing, all knowing one. You seem to be forgetting that Freddie also, at one point, was infatuated with Noirin. How am I to know that Freddie is not saying this with a tinge of bitterness? This conversation wouldn't be an 'heavily edited' release by C4 would it.

When was Freddie infatuated with Noirin?

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:

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Originally posted by shar69:Oh right, so because Freddie said so. Sorry but Freddie is not the all seeing, all knowing one. You seem to be forgetting that Freddie also, at one point, was infatuated with Noirin. How am I to know that Freddie is not saying this with a tinge of bitterness? This conversation wouldn't be an 'heavily edited' release by C4 would it.

When was Freddie infatuated with Noirin?

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Marcus has been a friend to Noirin (more than Siavash has really) so yeh I think Noirin should have been more upfront to him about liking others in the house. She was just trying to play different men simultaneously in the end to strengthen her position. Ironically I don't think she really needed to do that.

The house situation isn't really about 'love' in the normal sense, it's about friendships and alliances. Noirin by going behind Marcus's back has broken that. Luckily for her they may send her ex in which will give her another ally in the house, it may be too late for her by then though.

Yes the situation isn't a normal one. So your saying that Noirin has broken the friendship by going behind Marcus' back. If thats the case then Marcus broke it way before Noirin by going behind her back and slating her to every single one of the other housemates. He has been doing this for weeks.