Too heavy a subject to get into at this time o night  

 

 

I'm not....and don't want to get into it because all the hype is making my blood boil 

Do they have any decent centre forwards?

Don't give a  monkeys.    

 

I saw a quote on Twitter the other day that I thought was quite fitting...

 

Definition of someone who leaves a rich country to work in a poorer country 'Ex Pat'

 

Definition of someone who leaves a poor country to work in a richer country 'Migrant'

Sorry, I must stop posting things I'm interested in.

 

Col, it's not a problem really but it's the time of night that you post subjects like this 

 

 

me...I hope they chuck out all the Brits in lucrative jobs abroad 

If it happens (which i doubt it will) it will be the new slave labour.

Then again, it's not just Romanians and Bulgarians to my mind..........it's a lot of people. If we can accommodate them...not a prob...........we're full!! that's all I'm saying on the matter  

Mine too . 

As we have seen today - don't believe the hype

No don't Cologne.It's a very valid question.

I think the genie is already out of the bottle.The Romanians and Bulgarians are just topping up the chaos.Since the Spanish and Italian economies are already in trouble.The ones who've settled there are rumoured to be 'on the move'.Maybe here or Germany,Holland etc.

The funniest thing is.The Poles,Lithuanians and Slovaks etc are moaning that 'no one else should be allowed in'.You have to laugh.

I love that Turkish/German film 'Gegen Die Wand'.

 

I'm not worried. The evidence would suggest foriegn workers make a positive contribution as opposed to a negative one.

 

 

I'm with Dame on this, the anti Romanian/Bulgarian hoardes heading en masse for the UK, yesterday morning, is whipped up political toss, put about by Dave running scared of UKIP,Tory backbenchers and the Daily Mail aiding and abetting.

 

The Romanians and Bulgarians have access to the UK since 2007 and any that wanted to come here have already done so.

We continue to recruit in both countries for highly skilled workers so they will keep coming , thank god.

 

The 4 million Poles that migrated here before was because other EU  countries had restrictions, except for us and one other country, so there wasn't much choice back then, the majority came here,this time it's entirely different, we all had restrictions and are all lifting them at the same time, so choice isn't limited, add to that the historical fact that Poles  had an established community here already and the Romanians and Bulgarians have the same type of ex pat communities in Spain and Italy, which is where they tend to go to work  and the whole thing gets a lot less scary.

 

The elements,in govt. bellowing and  whipping up xenophobic fear and hatred are doing us no favours, we just look ridiculous and nasty to the rest of the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/v...igrants-9032890.html

I'm far more concerned about private companies forcing up prices.. the energy companies, and now rail fares are getting hiked up again . 

I met a genuine UKIP person the other day talking about this at a party. I felt much more threatened by her than any Eastern European I've ever met.

Same as Suzy! I was at a big do on NYE. You can't debate with these people for they don't understand political or economic systems.
That's the first time someone has called me a "commie" since the men in suits arrived in m'local CLP.

Bit of a hot potato this one. My understanding of it is that it isn't the Romanians and Bulgarians that we should be worried about, but the actual Roma people from these countries who arn't wanted where they live and are being encouraged to come here and elsewhere in Europe. It's these people that are the ones who have gangs of pick pockets and thieves on the streets (my son has been pickpocketed twice in London).They are the ones  who have no intention of working. They are the ones who in my home town are taking over a few of the schools with their children as they cannot claim benefits unless they send their children to school.Consequently, the council have to employ interpreters. The cost to the local tax payer is tremendous, which in turn makes for other local services suffer.But, these people have been here and coming here more and morefor about 5/6 years. We have 3 families on our street. They chop and change now and then, and we get different families in the same houses, and generally(not always) they are no bother. But, none of them seem to work  a proper job.

I dunno if someone was simplifying things but I read that the only real change is that when they come here to work in a job they have been offered they no longer need a work permit.

 

Roma have been here for years. . not sure about Bulgarians but a lot of Eastern block country's people came over when their Countries joined the union.. can't really see what all the fuss is about tbh  I thought the whole point was open boarders across the EU

 

Don't get me wrong we seem to be filling up over here and some places are vastly overpopulated as it is but, if we remain in the EU we have no choice but to accept people from its member countries as they have no choice but to accept British people into theirs. . at least visitors to our shores make an effort to speak the language or learn it or already speak it before they arrive.. Brits abroad aren't so good at that, not all but a lot..

I have a Bulgarian lady working in my office and she has been for nearly 3 years so I'm a bit confused. She is a hard worker but sometimes she takes things too literally and we think that is a language barrier thing. She is married to a Portugese man tho so perhaps that's why she's been here for so long??

 

I saw that on the news today. They said it happens every January. Not being a rail user I am unaware of how often they increase the prices.

 

 

People from Bulgaria could work here before the changes on 1 January but they needed to get authorisation from the Home Office. As the lady in your office is married to a Portuguese man she might not have needed authorisation.

 

Uncle Bulgaria.

nicked off Facebook 

all them homeless homegrown people on the street sleeping in this crap weather

all the europeans flying in

to sleep on the floor cos no where else to stay

yeah nice move EU

tories

lefties

arseholes

 

If only! My one was scarily well-informed in the juju of political and economic science, but she was ever so slightly feral and quite incredibly rabid. 

i KNEW this would happen

i know what theyre like

i said ages ago but got told off

 

Roma are brought up to take

by any means

im not doing a 'sweeping statement'

its just how it is

i dont talk to any of that side of family anymore

 

please trust me on this

i know what im on about

theyve scrounged off me

i dont trust them

We've got some Scots like that round our way.....     

 

 

lol

 

Could I just point out that Roma, aren't exclusively from Romania and Bulgaria,They aren't exclusively from Rome either.They roam about a bit,them Roma.

I see the expected flood of Eastern Europeans hasn't happend, as predicted would happen on the stroke of mid night, new years eve, some reporter managed to locate a Romanian, and promptly shoved a camera in his face and demanded to know where all his mates were..

It's an absolute disgrace, we were desperate to to have the unwashed hordes of eastern europeans descend on us,rush  harum scarum straight to the council to get a house, and advice on getting benefits, then rushing off with the pregnant missus to the nearest maternity wing, so they could have a free baby.

Terrible it is! no consideration for anyone, wtf are we going to blame now, that they can't be arsed to invade us? miserable gits. 

In such Poorer Countries, these ''ExPats'' are paid in pounds and live in the best houses and almost worshipped. In most cases most of them do not even need to have the best Education or qualification.

True dat.