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quote:Originally posted by luxor:
Have the producers handed over the running of the show to Lisa.
It appears to me that from week 1 Lisa has got everything she wants.
The only time the public had a chance to kick her out they blew it by not voting for Hira.
quote:Originally posted by luxor:
Have the producers handed over the running of the show to Lisa.
It appears to me that from week 1 Lisa has got everything she wants.
The only time the public had a chance to kick her out they blew it by not voting for Hira.
quote:Originally posted by luxor:
Why oh why was she not booted out when we had the chance. Who voted for her, she has done nothing except sit at the bus stop and hold court over a bunch of numpties. How is that entertaining?
quote:Originally posted by luxor:
Have the producers handed over the running of the show to Lisa.
It appears to me that from week 1 Lisa has got everything she wants.
The only time the public had a chance to kick her out they blew it by not voting for Hira.
quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
She has done NOTHING to warrant winning IMO...neither has Charlie or Sophie, or David for that matter....
...I wouldn't mind if Rodrigo or Siavash won, but my winner is Marcus...I've not always been a massive fan of his but you cannot deny he has brought entertainment to the show without breaking people down (like Bea)....
quote:Originally posted by figtree:quote:Originally posted by luxor:
Have the producers handed over the running of the show to Lisa.
It appears to me that from week 1 Lisa has got everything she wants.
The only time the public had a chance to kick her out they blew it by not voting for Hira.
That's How I see it!
quote:Originally posted by Crystal Gaze:quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
She has done NOTHING to warrant winning IMO...neither has Charlie or Sophie, or David for that matter....
...I wouldn't mind if Rodrigo or Siavash won, but my winner is Marcus...I've not always been a massive fan of his but you cannot deny he has brought entertainment to the show without breaking people down (like Bea)....
What about Noirin she took a pasting. Maybe if she'd dissolved in tears she would have got more sympathy but wait she did. She got pretty down and desperate, yet she was vilified for turning to Siavash no doubt as an escape.
quote:Originally posted by Crystal Gaze:quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
She has done NOTHING to warrant winning IMO...neither has Charlie or Sophie, or David for that matter....
...I wouldn't mind if Rodrigo or Siavash won, but my winner is Marcus...I've not always been a massive fan of his but you cannot deny he has brought entertainment to the show without breaking people down (like Bea)....
What about Noirin she took a pasting. Maybe if she'd dissolved in tears she would have got more sympathy but wait she did. She got pretty down and desperate, yet she was vilified for turning to Siavash no doubt as an escape.
quote:Originally posted by luxor:quote:Originally posted by Crystal Gaze:quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
She has done NOTHING to warrant winning IMO...neither has Charlie or Sophie, or David for that matter....
...I wouldn't mind if Rodrigo or Siavash won, but my winner is Marcus...I've not always been a massive fan of his but you cannot deny he has brought entertainment to the show without breaking people down (like Bea)....
What about Noirin she took a pasting. Maybe if she'd dissolved in tears she would have got more sympathy but wait she did. She got pretty down and desperate, yet she was vilified for turning to Siavash no doubt as an escape.
Marcus's only crime in the house was to fall for a very sexy woman who knew how to wrap men round her little finger.
The fact that there was nothing else to do and no distractions Marcus had a hard time deciphering the mixed messages she was sending.
For this he should be stoned to death for daring to fall for her charms. While Siavash who also fell for her is a pillar of virtue, because he looks nice.
quote:Originally posted by brisket:
The way it has unfolded has been very disappointing for me this year.
It truly is now a case of either picking "the best of a bad lot", or not bothering at all.
quote:Originally posted by mozart:quote:Originally posted by brisket:
The way it has unfolded has been very disappointing for me this year.
It truly is now a case of either picking "the best of a bad lot", or not bothering at all.
BB allowing the constant block voting was enough for me. Not one of Lisa`s lot have done anything what so ever to enhance the show. Where as love em or hate them the 3 Amigos did.
Lisa & Charlie have made it this far due to pure luck 
The worst decision BB made this year was to allow them to discuss nominations, they could've at least stopped it after a week, but no, the damage was done...quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by luxor:quote:Originally posted by Crystal Gaze:quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
She has done NOTHING to warrant winning IMO...neither has Charlie or Sophie, or David for that matter....
...I wouldn't mind if Rodrigo or Siavash won, but my winner is Marcus...I've not always been a massive fan of his but you cannot deny he has brought entertainment to the show without breaking people down (like Bea)....
What about Noirin she took a pasting. Maybe if she'd dissolved in tears she would have got more sympathy but wait she did. She got pretty down and desperate, yet she was vilified for turning to Siavash no doubt as an escape.
Marcus's only crime in the house was to fall for a very sexy woman who knew how to wrap men round her little finger.
The fact that there was nothing else to do and no distractions Marcus had a hard time deciphering the mixed messages she was sending.
For this he should be stoned to death for daring to fall for her charms. While Siavash who also fell for her is a pillar of virtue, because he looks nice.
And sadly it all comes down to the fact that people fancy Siavash and they don't fancy Marcus.
quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:quote:Originally posted by mozart:quote:Originally posted by brisket:
The way it has unfolded has been very disappointing for me this year.
It truly is now a case of either picking "the best of a bad lot", or not bothering at all.
BB allowing the constant block voting was enough for me. Not one of Lisa`s lot have done anything what so ever to enhance the show. Where as love em or hate them the 3 Amigos did.
So true
quote:Originally posted by mozart:
BB could easily have stopped it as soon as it started by dropping the prize fund everytime a HM broke this so called fundamental rule.
they could have used this punishment if they wanted to stop Siavash with his not nominating crusade if they wanted too.
They could've even stopped the discussing on nominations after a week and told the HMs they couldn't nominate the same HMs as the week before when they had discussed it. At least it would've thrown a spanner in the works....quote:Originally posted by mozart:quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:quote:Originally posted by mozart:quote:Originally posted by brisket:
The way it has unfolded has been very disappointing for me this year.
It truly is now a case of either picking "the best of a bad lot", or not bothering at all.
BB allowing the constant block voting was enough for me. Not one of Lisa`s lot have done anything what so ever to enhance the show. Where as love em or hate them the 3 Amigos did.
So true
BB could easily have stopped it as soon as it started by dropping the prize fund everytime a HM broke this so called fundamental rule.
they could have used this punishment if they wanted to stop Siavash with his not nominating crusade if they wanted too.
quote:Originally posted by Mummy Maz:
With 2 weeks to go we should be voting to evict who we want out - we are supposed to be the voting public - pay us some respect and let US decide who WE want to win, not pick a shoddy winner from your manipulating ...
quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:quote:Originally posted by Mummy Maz:
With 2 weeks to go we should be voting to evict who we want out - we are supposed to be the voting public - pay us some respect and let US decide who WE want to win, not pick a shoddy winner from your manipulating ...
That's the problem MM, BB have manipulated everything this year, no punishments for rule breaking, not showing full arguments on the HL show etc....I should think they have people scouring these forums day in, day out to get the jist of who we want to win, then they can manipulate things to who they want to win...
I didn't think I would miss LF so much as I didn't watch it much, but I did hear the full story of things that went on, on here...BB have chosen their winner already, not us!
quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:quote:Originally posted by Mummy Maz:
With 2 weeks to go we should be voting to evict who we want out - we are supposed to be the voting public - pay us some respect and let US decide who WE want to win, not pick a shoddy winner from your manipulating ...
That's the problem MM, BB have manipulated everything this year, no punishments for rule breaking, not showing full arguments on the HL show etc....I should think they have people scouring these forums day in, day out to get the jist of who we want to win, then they can manipulate things to who they want to win...
I didn't think I would miss LF so much as I didn't watch it much, but I did hear the full story of things that went on, on here...BB have chosen their winner already, not us!
quote:The worst posiible thing they could have done was to allow them to talk about noms, that decision ensured that team Lisa were laughing all the way to the final
So true. I read the ch4 noms twist piece wrongly (I thought noms were going to be paired). It would have been good, make lisa nom with Siavash and agree or both go up, David nom with Marcus, Sophie with Rodrigo, and disallow Charlie for microphone rule break or similar. Could have been very entertaining.BB has usually managed to sabotage the gang mentality by one way or another over the years. The tactic failed for Saskia in BB6, Grace in BB7 and Jen in BB9 but for some reason they've allowed Lisa to get away with the same tactics this year. It can only be that they had already chosen their winner and were willing to let Lisa do exactly what she wanted as long as she shepherded Charlie to the final.quote:Originally posted by luxor:
Have the producers handed over the running of the show to Lisa.
It appears to me that from week 1 Lisa has got everything she wants.
The only time the public had a chance to kick her out they blew it by not voting for Hira.
Karly and Kris were up because of "rabbitgate" and siavash getting it wrong, maybe Lisa wouldve been up , who knows..quote:Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:
I'm not a big fan of Lisa but I don't understand why everyone is blaming her.
Those still in there had a chance to nominate her after she lost Kris, Karly and Kenneth but they chose not to. In my mind, she can't be that bad then.
quote:Originally posted by Racktheshack:
I'm sorry but I just don't get this anti Lisa thing and I've said so from the start. I like Lisa. I don't know why everyone thinks that she has persuaded people to vote either way and lured them into her den and controls people to do he bidding. What den, what bidding. The worst thing about Lisa is her constant repitition of certain phrases and platitudes. Wait and see...at the end of the day....the usual sayings... blah blah. Hardly enough to warrant such venom. The only ones that I could see with obvious gameplans and manipulations were Freddie, Mrcus and Siavash. I actually think Lisa is also very pretty with a lovely smile and beautiful teeth. People are banging on today about how she was upset when Sophie lost the task and they didn't get music. i too would be reaLLY PISSED OFF. EVERYONE LOVES A FEW SOUNDS AND PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THEM IN AGES. I REALLY ENJOYED WATCHING LISA AND mARCUS ENJOYING THEIR CLEANING SESSION WITH GUNS AND rOSES ON IN THE BACKGROUND. tHAT'S WHAT i'M LIKE WHEN i'M DOING A SPRINCLEAN. sorry about caps. Don't look at screen when typing. Anyway, as I was saying yeah... I'd be pissed off too. And I love Sophie, so does Lisa. She wasn't beimg nasty to Sophie, she was just really disappointed. I really like Lisa. I wouldn't mind if she won.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:quote:Originally posted by Racktheshack:
I'm sorry but I just don't get this anti Lisa thing and I've said so from the start. I like Lisa. I don't know why everyone thinks that she has persuaded people to vote either way and lured them into her den and controls people to do he bidding. What den, what bidding. The worst thing about Lisa is her constant repitition of certain phrases and platitudes. Wait and see...at the end of the day....the usual sayings... blah blah. Hardly enough to warrant such venom. The only ones that I could see with obvious gameplans and manipulations were Freddie, Mrcus and Siavash. I actually think Lisa is also very pretty with a lovely smile and beautiful teeth. People are banging on today about how she was upset when Sophie lost the task and they didn't get music. i too would be reaLLY PISSED OFF. EVERYONE LOVES A FEW SOUNDS AND PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THEM IN AGES. I REALLY ENJOYED WATCHING LISA AND mARCUS ENJOYING THEIR CLEANING SESSION WITH GUNS AND rOSES ON IN THE BACKGROUND. tHAT'S WHAT i'M LIKE WHEN i'M DOING A SPRINCLEAN. sorry about caps. Don't look at screen when typing. Anyway, as I was saying yeah... I'd be pissed off too. And I love Sophie, so does Lisa. She wasn't beimg nasty to Sophie, she was just really disappointed. I really like Lisa. I wouldn't mind if she won.
hi rackthesack. I have to disagree with you on quite a few points unfortunately. Lisa has controlled the show from day one. She is a 41 year old woman with a controlling manipulative nature. She has been put in a house with some impressionable youngsters who think she is the be all and end all, because Lisa told them she was and they believe her. She has got them each on-side by her mumsy persona, whilst all the time brain washing them against who she, Lisa, does not like. Her success stories in this regard are/were: Sophie, Charlie, Kris, Sree, Karly, David, etc. All young impressionable youngsters who are easily led, especially by a professional blagger, street-wise, school-of-hard-knocks, woman. Lisa is not academically clever, but she is clever and cunning in a street-wise kinda way.
She managed to see off quite a few of the outsiders in her time in the house, by convincing her young cohorts to vote out who she chose for the high jump. She is doing it today still, she is getting rid of the people she doesn't want in the final. In short, Lisa is controlling the show. She is controlling who we want to see in the show. She is controlling who sits on the sofas on the final night.
But the one thing Lisa cannot control is her ability to win the show. She will leave empty handed on 4 September, with a reputation for being a person who condoned and encouraged cheating in a game designed to award the winner with 100k for being the public's choice. The public's choice has been narrowed down to Lisa's final 5 choice, and that is an insult to our intelligence.
Karly,Kriss and Sree were her friends, they have gone. If the 3 amigos hadnt started their nonsence and Siavash doing his not nominating stuff, it could well be a different house...quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:quote:Originally posted by Racktheshack:
I'm sorry but I just don't get this anti Lisa thing and I've said so from the start. I like Lisa. I don't know why everyone thinks that she has persuaded people to vote either way and lured them into her den and controls people to do he bidding. What den, what bidding. The worst thing about Lisa is her constant repitition of certain phrases and platitudes. Wait and see...at the end of the day....the usual sayings... blah blah. Hardly enough to warrant such venom. The only ones that I could see with obvious gameplans and manipulations were Freddie, Mrcus and Siavash. I actually think Lisa is also very pretty with a lovely smile and beautiful teeth. People are banging on today about how she was upset when Sophie lost the task and they didn't get music. i too would be reaLLY PISSED OFF. EVERYONE LOVES A FEW SOUNDS AND PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THEM IN AGES. I REALLY ENJOYED WATCHING LISA AND mARCUS ENJOYING THEIR CLEANING SESSION WITH GUNS AND rOSES ON IN THE BACKGROUND. tHAT'S WHAT i'M LIKE WHEN i'M DOING A SPRINCLEAN. sorry about caps. Don't look at screen when typing. Anyway, as I was saying yeah... I'd be pissed off too. And I love Sophie, so does Lisa. She wasn't beimg nasty to Sophie, she was just really disappointed. I really like Lisa. I wouldn't mind if she won.
hi rackthesack. I have to disagree with you on quite a few points unfortunately. Lisa has controlled the show from day one. She is a 41 year old woman with a controlling manipulative nature. She has been put in a house with some impressionable youngsters who think she is the be all and end all, because Lisa told them she was and they believe her. She has got them each on-side by her mumsy persona, whilst all the time brain washing them against who she, Lisa, does not like. Her success stories in this regard are/were: Sophie, Charlie, Kris, Sree, Karly, David, etc. All young impressionable youngsters who are easily led, especially by a professional blagger, street-wise, school-of-hard-knocks, woman. Lisa is not academically clever, but she is clever and cunning in a street-wise kinda way.
She managed to see off quite a few of the outsiders in her time in the house, by convincing her young cohorts to vote out who she chose for the high jump. She is doing it today still, she is getting rid of the people she doesn't want in the final. In short, Lisa is controlling the show. She is controlling who we want to see in the show. She is controlling who sits on the sofas on the final night.
But the one thing Lisa cannot control is her ability to win the show. She will leave empty handed on 4 September, with a reputation for being a person who condoned and encouraged cheating in a game designed to award the winner with 100k for being the public's choice. The public's choice has been narrowed down to Lisa's final 5 choice, and that is an insult to our intelligence.
Brilliantly explained Tree Surgeon, agee totallyquote:Originally posted by Demantoid:
I remember when HLs on one of the early eviction nights showed Siavash complaining about Lisa orchestrating the block vote.
Cue a gurning Davina to say the producers had scoured the footage for evidence and found none.
Yeah, right
How come we've all seen it then?
