People with no character to begin with can start off being bullied an end up doing the same themselves.
If you're any kind of a decent human being, you'll know what it feels like and would never hesitate to jump in if you see someone being made to feel as crap as you used to.

No I really don't lol.  We all have hm's we like and dislike, would be weird if we all had the same ones lol. I'm not going to raise my bp because others disagree with who I enjoy seeing in the house  

Exactly Deman....He is a bully of the highest order ,he targeted who he perceived as weaker HM's ,when that opinion was posted here dear dear the refusal to even contemplate that suggestion and there we have it he's been forced to admit what he is BUT as always,it's not his fault.

He said he will talk to Josie and if she wants to do it he will and give her the money.

He's not taking responsibility though Marg,how often did we hear him say in there you made me do that,it's never his fault,never,even now his offering up excuses .

So  it's for Josie's benefit,he's prepared to compromise himself after all the ranting he done, berating other HM's for this very thing ,I believe if many of us felt so strongly opposed to something this wouldn't be happening....Does he think she needs him or the money that much?,is his self importance coming into play again I wonder.

That's very gracious of him. But what about those principles he's been barking about for 11 weeks (in a very loud and relentless voice)?

So how come, if Josie wants to do it, he won't treat her to the same crap that he gave everyone else for wanting to tell their stories?
Is it OK as long as it's her?

Don't forget the morals,

Love and life is about compromise. If he thinks the money will benefit her life more than his ideals that's his decision to make

I agree Lee in the house his attitude stunk but he is admitting now he was a bully now perhaps by admitting it he can get help this is what I am trying to say,I disliked him in the house but did not hate him and I dont think he was fake but Corin was IMO.

She won't do it though,she went mad when Sam suggested she'd sell her story to the mag's,to her that was like prostitution so no way will she do it,will she?,no.

Was it 'his' decision to make about whether the money would benefit any of the other HMs' lives as well?

hmmm. Truth!

If they intend to be together,he's said he's going to propose, it won't be singularly be her life it will be their lives no?...Yeah it is his decision,as it were the decision of the HM's he tore to strip for the same thing,it was theirs to make,not his.

He will Lee I am only saying what he said in his interview I am not saying it is not hypocritical it is, but if he plans to let her have the money it surely says something about him as he wont be gaining anything.

He always said that it wasn't what they would do, after the show, it was that they came on the show specifically for those things.
Not that it was any business of his, what they chose to speak about, of course!

Oh, and Josie didn't like Sam making out that she wasn't being genuine towards John James and was only doing it to sell stories.

Sam - "Oh yeah, it's all for the love, isn't it, Josie!" - said in a sarcastic voice.

He did say that when he had the arguement with Rachael she was sat at the table going on about Nuts Mag deals, and agree it is none of his buisness who does what when they leave.

Flipping cheek of him. The minute anyone stands in queue (or hop on a 12 hour flight to queue) to audition for any telly programme that short cuts you in to Celebville, a Wannabe is born!

yes his decision if he decides to forgo his ideals and do what Josie wants to do, if she wants to do it, time will tell when she leaves. Like I said love and life is about compromise. Through being in the house and all that's happened I think John's now realising he's on a huge learning curve that could undo his previously fixed ideas about certain things, hence compromise, It will benefit him in the longer term if he realises some changes are needed

Actually, it's a 23-hour flight. He did it several times over during the audition process and then again come launch night - all for a show he 'couldn't give a rip' about

I think Endermol chased him, he only did one interview here all the ithers were done by phone and considering he'd applied to Endermol for Aussie BB it makes sense....

He did Deman not something I would have done it must have cost him the earth he wanted to be on BB this was his last chance I presume.

Goodnight All I should never have gotten out of bed I am overtired now

I'd have loved to have seen the tantrums in his Beckham-and Barbie-encrusted granny flat when he found out BB Oz had been cancelled

Bet Mummy took ages to calm him down...

Some of the repeated stuff I read about him coming from Oz, how many flights it's assumed by some he made, why did he do it etc. etc etc make me laugh. So what!!!! if Endemol offer opportunities to be on bb from whichever country anyone's allowed to apply from why wouldn't those who want to be a part of it apply the same as all the Brits who apply.? Personally I've no clue why tens of thousands from anywhere or everywhere would want to be on such a show but hey we've seen it before with all the other reality shows, X Factor BGT etc, that's life now

Night night Marge, hope you get back to sleep quickly and have a good night's rest xxxxx

Difference is, YR, they don't all fly halfway round the world to take part, claim never to have seen the show (despite knowing intricate details about the process and all previous BBs and HMs), spend 10 weeks analysing everyone else's motives in forensic detail and then still expect the public to believe they 'don't give a rip' about it.

I wonder how many others from different countries applied to be on BB, oh of course we never get to know that. Yes he did research by watching past bb's, tbh I'd probably do the same if I was going to travel long distance to see if it was worth my time. Whatever he learnt from watching past bb's, and all hm's watch bb, he still would have had no clue what his experience would be like or what kind of people he'd be with, that's something all the research in the world couldn't prepare anyone for as we've seen from Brit hm's who walked

Anyway I'm off to bed now, no doubt the debate will continue lol. Sleep well everyone

Corin's "girlfriend" sold her story FIRST to a trashy magazine called New which is a gossip magazine.

Corin did not have the chance to defend herself from the allegations and consequently was hung drawn and quartered before she got out of the house.

Why is everyone automatically believing that Rachel is right here?
Two sides to every story.Let's hear what Corin has to say.
And interestingly she has hardly mentioned Rachel - perhaps that's because she wants to talk to her first?

Nuff said. 

I assumed, when I saw the headline, that she was referring to John James, so was somewhat surprised that folk thought she was referring to Sam

I think his disapproval is more about people getting their kit off. than appearing in mags per se?

I dunno how anyone could even think she meant Sam. John James was aggressive and intimidating but Sam was just annoying to her....she gave him as good as she got cos obviously she never felt threatened by him...she probably did with JJ1

Her reaction to Sam, imo, was about the fact that he was implying that she was only in the 'relationship'with John James in order to get mag deals/sell the story when she got out i.e. that she was faking it. Sam said, when he first went in, that he thought John James was genuine about Josie, but that she was not genuine about him. He appeared to change his mind, once he saw it with his own eyes

I hope that's true, that he has recognised the error of his ways, and he does something about it. He needs to

As for Corin: if either Nathan or JJ had taken an interest then, imo, she absolutely would have gone for it, irrespective of her 'girlfriend'

just a quick round of applause for the photoshop person on the daily star....that de-oranging must have taken a lot of time

Nope. It was all kinds of Celebrity seeking. He was very dismissive of Andrew Stone too for coming in the house for the Glee task and again last week because he was an airtime thief and only in it to promote himself. Duh!