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Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:

Established Middle Class..  

 

 

its all a load of bullocks really though innit 

I would categorise myself as traditional working class.

What I think swung it was probably owning own home, having savings and knowing certain types of people.

yeah...  same (apart from the savings )

 

gawd knows what I would be if I hadn't been able to use Ducky as my Teacher friend 

Dirtyprettygirlthing
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:

Established Middle Class..  

 

 

its all a load of bullocks really though innit 

It must be, coz I'm Established Middle Class too

Me too Now somethings seriously wrong there  I don't think they asked the right questions - what does it matter who you know? It doesn't make you any different does it?

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

Me too Now somethings seriously wrong there  I don't think they asked the right questions - what does it matter who you know? It doesn't make you any different does it?

Actually, I think the whole thing is deeply flawed. Despite a lot of guff about measuring "social" and "cultural" capital, it's heavily biased towards home-ownership, and it doesn't make allowances for being single (and doesn't take children into account at all).


I did a little experiment: imagine a couple who earn ÂĢ26k each, and own a ÂĢ130k house. I gave them ÂĢ10k savings each and a selection of friends and hobbies which I assumed they both shared. I also assumed a couple of children, but like I said this doesn't affect the results.

This couple came out as "Technical Middle Class".

 

Now assume they split: the woman keeps the house (with the children), while the man goes into rented accomodation.

The woman is now a "New Affluent Worker", while the man is an "Emergent Service Worker" - even though their individual earnings, friends and hobbies haven't changed.

 

The really weird thing is that both of them when single are in "classes" which the model considers to have higher levels of social and cultural capital than the class they were in while together - when in fact those levels remained constant. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

Eugene's Lair
Last edited by Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:

I think you're taking this study a bit too literally Eugene.  

 

Yeah; very probably!

I just found it interesting that while the BBC are claiming that the model shows the importance of cultural and social factors in modern Britain, in practise it all just comes down to money...

Eugene's Lair
Last edited by Eugene's Lair

There's no Pleb sector!!!

 

I'm upper middle to snooty.

Drive car wearing gloves, allow port to breath 20mins, aromatic pipe smoker, prefer regal colours, choice is for the expensive at all times, refuse to buy toilet paper, choose to have the door answered for me, only talk to others due to social convention and scoop from the back of the bowl ... of course

 

There you have it.

Saint

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