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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
I dont care who respects MJ or disrepects him everyone is entitled to view their OWN opinion on him........what I find quite sickening is that during a general discusion on the issue the day after he died the op decided to enter the thread telling sickening jokes about the child abuse issue.....So I think thats why people may have told you to show some respect.......not because MJ had died but them jokes are disrespectful in themselves and not funny.

I agree with you, it sickens me that people still this even after his death...

I still believe MJ was guilty, and I am adamant that had he just been your average Joe Bloggs then he would have had the book thrown at him and would be rotting in a prison cell. In Martin Bashairs interview Michal Jackson said to him, 'I think it is special to share a bed with a young boy' For crying it loud that is almost evidence enough in itself! That aside, he is a great music artist and he should be duly remembered for this, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the stuff should be forgotten.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

I believe he was a victim of being too trusting and letting money grabbing devils into his life.... The blogs have been buzzing with news that the kid who accused Michael in 93 has confessed that his dad put him up to it...

Matthew Bashir has come out with a statement saying Michael didnt do anything wrong I wonder why he is saying this now when nothing matters...

Michael was innocent and it was after all these accusations and the witch hunt by the media and wicked and hurtful words from people that killed him eventually...

I just wish all the media and celebs displaying their love for him now showed him all that when he was alive...

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Originally posted by Joods:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

I believe he was a victim of being too trusting and letting money grabbing devils into his life.... The blogs have been buzzing with news that the kid who accused Michael in 93 has confessed that his dad put him up to it...

Matthew Bashir has come out with a statement saying Michael didnt do anything wrong I wonder why he is saying this now when nothing matters...

Michael was innocent and it was after all these accusations and the witch hunt by the media and wicked and hurtful words from people that killed him eventually...

I just wish all the media and celebs displaying their love for him now showed him all that when he was alive...

Watching the news about MJ over the past few days, one of the channels dragged up the 'evidence' which helped get him into the dock.

One of the things mentioned was the 'under the shelf' mags found in MJs house, but no mention that although they were in his house, they were found in quarters used by security AND in fact had DNA evidence on them linking them to a particular security operative.

The media knows this, along with other so called evidence that was blown out of the water during his trial, so why do they think it right to mention it is beyond me unless it's just for a few more column inches or minutes of air time.

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Originally posted by Mentalist:
Show me here, where I have tried to coerce anyone? I supported everyones right to have an opinion. And please note I said 'I hope' not 'you must', send the fm your condolances.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:
Show me here, where I have tried to coerce anyone? I supported everyones right to have an opinion. And please note I said 'I hope' not 'you must', send the fm your condolances.

There was a very strong parent-child transaction implicit in what you said. I also thought it was a bit out of order to link that thread with these ones.

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Originally posted by Mentalist:
Sorry that wasn't my intention, it was bugging me that people were getting so heated over this. I'm afraid I don't have the skills with words that you have, I just couldn't see why everyone couldn't agree to disagree. I admit I don't get the respecting celebrity thing, but I do respect peoples right to do so. If I offended it was not what I set out to do.

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Originally posted by hal:
I would like to believe he is innocent...and was being set up by money hungry folks.

But what was he thinking? Anyone with a shred of common sense would know to keep away from young children that are not of their own..erring on the safe side

There is an innocence about him that is so sad imo, he was bestowed with a tremendous talent but lot less in other depts.

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by hal:
I would like to believe he is innocent...and was being set up by money hungry folks.

But what was he thinking? Anyone with a shred of common sense would know to keep away from young children that are not of their own..erring on the safe side

There is an innocence about him that is so sad imo, he was bestowed with a tremendous talent but lot less in other depts.

I find it amazing that any MJ fan thinks it was acceptable for him to share his bed with young boys. I wonder if they would have let their child sleep in the same bed with him.

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by hal:
I would like to believe he is innocent...and was being set up by money hungry folks.

But what was he thinking? Anyone with a shred of common sense would know to keep away from young children that are not of their own..erring on the safe side

There is an innocence about him that is so sad imo, he was bestowed with a tremendous talent but lot less in other depts.

I find it amazing that any MJ fan thinks it was acceptable for him to share his bed with young boys. I wonder if they would have let their child sleep in the same bed with him.

Had this conversation yesterday. Some family member think it was all innocent (I think I tend to go along those lines - even if I do believe it was misguided at best) but when asked 'Would you let your child/grandchild do it' the overwhelming response was 'I wouldn't let a child of mine near him'.

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by hal:
I would like to believe he is innocent...and was being set up by money hungry folks.

But what was he thinking? Anyone with a shred of common sense would know to keep away from young children that are not of their own..erring on the safe side

There is an innocence about him that is so sad imo, he was bestowed with a tremendous talent but lot less in other depts.

I find it amazing that any MJ fan thinks it was acceptable for him to share his bed with young boys. I wonder if they would have let their child sleep in the same bed with him.

Had this conversation yesterday. Some family members think it was all innocent (I think I tend to go along those lines - even if I do believe it was misguided at best) but when asked 'Would you let your child/grandchild do it' the overwhelming response was 'I wouldn't let a child of mine near him'.

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:

buts its not just "HIM" is it really what person in the right mind would let any child share a bed with a man they bearly knew

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by hal:
I would like to believe he is innocent...and was being set up by money hungry folks.

But what was he thinking? Anyone with a shred of common sense would know to keep away from young children that are not of their own..erring on the safe side

There is an innocence about him that is so sad imo, he was bestowed with a tremendous talent but lot less in other depts.

I find it amazing that any MJ fan thinks it was acceptable for him to share his bed with young boys. I wonder if they would have let their child sleep in the same bed with him.

Had this conversation yesterday. Some family members think it was all innocent (I think I tend to go along those lines - even if I do believe it was misguided at best) but when asked 'Would you let your child/grandchild do it' the overwhelming response was 'I wouldn't let a child of mine near him'.

buts its not just "HIM" is it really what person in the right mind would let any child share a bed with a man they bearly knew

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You wouldn't let the average Joe in the street share a bed with your child yet because its MJ its acceptable i find that so scary.

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by hal:
I would like to believe he is innocent...and was being set up by money hungry folks.

But what was he thinking? Anyone with a shred of common sense would know to keep away from young children that are not of their own..erring on the safe side

There is an innocence about him that is so sad imo, he was bestowed with a tremendous talent but lot less in other depts.

I find it amazing that any MJ fan thinks it was acceptable for him to share his bed with young boys. I wonder if they would have let their child sleep in the same bed with him.

Had this conversation yesterday. Some family members think it was all innocent (I think I tend to go along those lines - even if I do believe it was misguided at best) but when asked 'Would you let your child/grandchild do it' the overwhelming response was 'I wouldn't let a child of mine near him'.

buts its not just "HIM" is it really what person in the right mind would let any child share a bed with a man they bearly knew

You wouldn't let the average Joe in the street share a bed with your child yet because its MJ its acceptable i find that so scary.

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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You wouldn't let the average Joe in the street share a bed with your child yet because its MJ its acceptable i find that so scary.

Yep - even if it was innocent, it's still wrong.

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by hal:
I would like to believe he is innocent...and was being set up by money hungry folks.

But what was he thinking? Anyone with a shred of common sense would know to keep away from young children that are not of their own..erring on the safe side

There is an innocence about him that is so sad imo, he was bestowed with a tremendous talent but lot less in other depts.

I find it amazing that any MJ fan thinks it was acceptable for him to share his bed with young boys. I wonder if they would have let their child sleep in the same bed with him.

Had this conversation yesterday. Some family members think it was all innocent (I think I tend to go along those lines - even if I do believe it was misguided at best) but when asked 'Would you let your child/grandchild do it' the overwhelming response was 'I wouldn't let a child of mine near him'.

buts its not just "HIM" is it really what person in the right mind would let any child share a bed with a man they bearly knew

You wouldn't let the average Joe in the street share a bed with your child yet because its MJ its acceptable i find that so scary.

sorry longcat I didnt say it was acceptable for any child to share a bed with MJ

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
sorry longcat I didnt say it was acceptable for any child to share a bed with MJ

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:
Sorry that wasn't my intention, it was bugging me that people were getting so heated over this. I'm afraid I don't have the skills with words that you have, I just couldn't see why everyone couldn't agree to disagree. I admit I don't get the respecting celebrity thing, but I do respect peoples right to do so. If I offended it was not what I set out to do.

Tone often gets lost in the written word but if you read it in a scolding parent's voice then it sounds that way. That's perhaps not the right voice to read it in though, I accept. I'm just explaining, really. I then felt I couldn't go into that thread - I didn't know it existed before that - because it would have seemed insincere. Doh. I wasn't actually offended by the reference to the thread although I confess I cringed a bit. I don't get offended as a rule by forum stuff. It just shows how different people are though as I would have hated that other thread to have even been posted. I don't doubt the good intentions of the poster and it might have been the right thing for the forum member but not for me. I don't tend to share those events.

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:
Sorry that wasn't my intention, it was bugging me that people were getting so heated over this. I'm afraid I don't have the skills with words that you have, I just couldn't see why everyone couldn't agree to disagree. I admit I don't get the respecting celebrity thing, but I do respect peoples right to do so. If I offended it was not what I set out to do.

Tone often gets lost in the written word but if you read it in a scolding parent's voice then it sounds that way. That's perhaps not the right voice to read it in though, I accept. I'm just explaining, really. I then felt I couldn't go into that thread - I didn't know it existed before that - because it would have seemed insincere. Doh. I wasn't actually offended by the reference to the thread although I confess I cringed a bit. I don't get offended as a rule by forum stuff. It just shows how different people are though as I would have hated that other thread to have even been posted. I don't doubt the good intentions of the poster and it might have been the right thing for the forum member but not for me. I don't tend to share those events.

When you put it that way I see what you mean, if anyone had gone in after that it could look as if they were only there because of what I said. That didn't even cross my mind. Perhaps I need to put my brain in gear before I post, I forget sometimes that how thing are construed in real life comes across very differently when put in the written word. My apologies to anyone who thought that is what I meant.

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Originally posted by TiGi:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:
Sorry that wasn't my intention, it was bugging me that people were getting so heated over this. I'm afraid I don't have the skills with words that you have, I just couldn't see why everyone couldn't agree to disagree. I admit I don't get the respecting celebrity thing, but I do respect peoples right to do so. If I offended it was not what I set out to do.

Tone often gets lost in the written word but if you read it in a scolding parent's voice then it sounds that way. That's perhaps not the right voice to read it in though, I accept. I'm just explaining, really. I then felt I couldn't go into that thread - I didn't know it existed before that - because it would have seemed insincere. Doh. I wasn't actually offended by the reference to the thread although I confess I cringed a bit. I don't get offended as a rule by forum stuff. It just shows how different people are though as I would have hated that other thread to have even been posted. I don't doubt the good intentions of the poster and it might have been the right thing for the forum member but not for me. I don't tend to share those events.

When you put it that way I see what you mean, if anyone had gone in after that it could look as if they were only there because of what I said. That didn't even cross my mind. Perhaps I need to put my brain in gear before I post, I forget sometimes that how thing are construed in real life comes across very differently when put in the written word. My apologies to anyone who thought that is what I meant.

Bless ya

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
sorry longcat I didnt say it was acceptable for any child to share a bed with MJ

I know you didnt i was agreeing with you.

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Originally posted by bozzimacoo:

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
sorry longcat I didnt say it was acceptable for any child to share a bed with MJ

I know you didnt i was agreeing with you.

sorry lost in translation

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Originally posted by Sky:
Hear hear and thanks Daniel..

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Sky:
Hear hear and thanks Daniel..

Awww, quick everybody!!11!!!! Group hug while we're being all soppy.

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Sky:
Hear hear and thanks Daniel..

Awww, quick everybody!!11!!!! Group hug while we're being all soppy.

Am I included, even though I'm a complete numpty?

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Sky:
Hear hear and thanks Daniel..

Awww, quick everybody!!11!!!! Group hug while we're being all soppy.

Am I included, even though I'm a complete numpty?

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

Michael was innocent and it was after all these accusations and the witch hunt by the media and wicked and hurtful words from people that killed him eventually...

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Originally posted by Roxi:
Michael Jackson is a nice guy and deserves respect

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Originally posted by Roxi:
Michael Jackson is a nice guy and deserves respect

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Originally posted by Billie Jean:

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Originally posted by Roxi:
Michael Jackson is a nice guy and deserves respect

Innovative present tense use there?

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Originally posted by Roxi:
Michael Jackson is a nice guy and deserves respect