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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

I get what you're saying..but I think the opposite can be true too.You can grieve for losing someone you admire and respect,but can still find humour in things.
I do admit my own humour is very dark and not to everyones taste tho.

I'm all for the humour part, as my chuckles in another thread proved last night

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Well if that's really true we can all post what the hell we like regardless of how we might offend who reads our words. But we can't. I'm not saying every one has to keep schtum unless they've something mournful to say, but the reason for the example i used was to illustrate that usually there's a period of time that passes before 'some' things should be said. And if you spot something that you believe is crossing a line why not point it out?

Oh I'm censoring myself, trust me

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
my modem is knackered so culdn't be online for the last few hours, so i slouched on the couch and flicked around the tellybox, wimbledon or michael? now thank god he never played tennis..

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I was thought to never speak ill of the dead no matter what because the wages of sin is death and after that their slate is wiped clean...

People should put themselves in other peoples shoes for a change maybe then can we progress together in this wicked world that we live in...

Not meaning to be provocative, and I am in no way suggesting that MJ should be categorised in this way, but by that reasoning wouldn't it also that mean that we should all respect the likes of Myrah Hindley and Adolf Hitler because they're dead?

Goodness me MJ and Hitler? come on now I think we should not speak ill of the dead and as a Christian,I do believe each individual will be judged after death on their activities on earth..

PCE
remember that website i went on yesterday and i said theres a video of MJ's last moments?
im on it again-to download an album and someone has put a recording of a KKK sermon from yesterday-and its all about MJ
theyve quoted just a few lines of the sermon, and i tell ya what, they are sick evil b@stards
but we all know that anyway

Some people are that sick in the head ... Im trying to avoid such blogs, some threads in here and even the news(with their hypocrisy)...

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my modem is knackered so culdn't be online for the last few hours, so i slouched on the couch and flicked around the tellybox, wimbledon or michael? now thank god he never played tennis..

Oi you, my IE still isn't working properly

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
my modem is knackered so culdn't be online for the last few hours, so i slouched on the couch and flicked around the tellybox, wimbledon or michael? now thank god he never played tennis..

Oi you, my IE still isn't working properly

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
my modem is knackered so culdn't be online for the last few hours, so i slouched on the couch and flicked around the tellybox, wimbledon or michael? now thank god he never played tennis..

Oi you, my IE still isn't working properly

why not? mine's fine now? you have xp?

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
Well if that's really true we can all post what the hell we like regardless of how we might offend who reads our words. But we can't. I'm not saying every one has to keep schtum unless they've something mournful to say, but the reason for the example i used was to illustrate that usually there's a period of time that passes before 'some' things should be said. And if you spot something that you believe is crossing a line why not point it out?

That's probably where I go wrong then as I don't usually care if someone is offended by my views on a whole range of subjects. It's their offence, not my actions, if you see what I mean. I rarely abuse people as individuals here though with ad hominem attacks, as that's offence I own myself and I'm responsible for it.

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As for the funeral i had no choice but to go

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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my modem is knackered so culdn't be online for the last few hours, so i slouched on the couch and flicked around the tellybox, wimbledon or michael? now thank god he never played tennis..

Oi you, my IE still isn't working properly

why not? mine's fine now? you have xp?

Vista

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I'm still mourning the death of Bill Hicks

He'd have a field day with all this

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As for the funeral i had no choice but to go

Most of my family are dead and I've never been to a funeral in my life. Mind you, the reactions to that have been quite extreme. I've broken significant taboos, apparently, and upset people because of it by not meeting their expectations. I maintain that funerals are for the living and grief is personal if one wishes it to be.

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clicky

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clicky

Thank you sweetypie

That's what I did last time - I think the glitch must be with this site rather than IE

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Originally posted by The Secretary:
I'm still mourning the death of Bill Hicks

He'd have a field day with all this

My boss used to be called Bill Hicks, wonder if its the same guy?

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Of course they are, but that should work both ways. If a relative of mine had died that I didn't like, I certainly wouldn't want to upset anyone who didn't feel the same way, so I would show my respect for THEM by just not going to the funeral. That way I wouldn't feel as though I was being expected to compromise my feelings, or theirs, by showing or hiding my true feelings. You're clearly a more magnanimous person than me. I don't really have feelings about MJ's death one way or another tbh. I think if he'd died 20 years ago I would have felt much sadder about it than I do today though. I certainly wouldn't deliberately try to upset anyone who felt they were affected by his death, but at the same time I think it's unfair to demand that we should all now show respect for someone just because others do. I agree that using Myrah and Adolf as examples was extreme but it was a reaction to PCE's statement that she was taught "to never speak ill of the dead no matter what because the wages of sin is death and after that their slate is wiped clean... " Which in my (highly irreligious) opinion is wrong. PCE clearly has a religious view on death and judgement, my view (shared I think by a few other FM's) is more humanist. As well as his deservedly fantastic musical reputation, MJ had a dubious, albeit unproven, reputation as far as children goes. For some the music will dominate their memory but for others it will be his sad and strange later personal life. For me it will be a combination of the two. MJ and his life is much too complicated a subject to be portrayed and judged in black and white terms (no pun intended, honestly!).

as for the funeral i had no choice but to go