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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
They all abandoned him when the going was tough I think only Elizabeth Taylor risked her career and stood by him... I commend her for that the other can stick it where the sun dont shine...

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Originally posted by The Secretary:
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head

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Originally posted by Miss_S:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
They all abandoned him when the going was tough I think only Elizabeth Taylor risked her career and stood by him... I commend her for that the other can stick it where the sun dont shine...

I don't know whether you saw the Larry King show broadcast today in which he read out a statment from Elizabeth Taylor.

It was very moving - she had so much affection for him and is so completely grief stricken.

Not having followed MJ's career particularly over the years, I had no idea the two of them were so close.

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Get over it

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Originally posted by Roxi:
Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Get over it

You know what, Trev? I don't really care. You're quick enough to jump on others, yet can't handle when someone calls you up on your posts.

Go back to your private forum and point and laugh at me and others who feel strongly about respect given to those who deserve respect for what they have contributed. I'm not really bothered.

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Get over it

You know what, Trev? I don't really care. You're quick enough to jump on others, yet can't handle when someone calls you up on your posts.

Go back to your private forum and point and laugh at me and others who feel strongly about respect given to those who deserve respect for what they have contributed. I'm not really bothered.

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Teh Trev has a private forum?

*feels shunned like an Amish with a walkman*

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Teh Trev has a private forum?

*feels shunned like an Amish with a walkman*

You wouldn't like it, Vegetablist

We're all satanists and drunks

All 4 of us

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Hi hun I didnt see the message I have switched off the news because its all too sad for me.. But yes they were very close and she supported him through the allegations... If you notice, this his new crop of so called friends havnt spoken to him for years

Hypocrites if they said all these kind words to him and didnt alienate him, he probably would still be alive today...

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by Roxi:
Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson

Why should I respect someone who was a singer and dancer who I never met or touched my life exactly?

I am not belittling your feeling on this, but do not tell me how to feel about someone I don't know.

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Teh Trev has a private forum?

*feels shunned like an Amish with a walkman*

You wouldn't like it, Vegetablist

We're all satanists and drunks

All 4 of us

have you had those ribs removed yet??
I have the webcam standing by

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Originally posted by cologne1:
To be fair, I don't think anybody does. The tributes could have been left alone by FM who don't feel the same way and this whole discussion would not have occured. Personally, I think it's natural that when a famous person dies (and suddenly like this) that their fans will feel grief, it isn't reserved for family and friends.

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Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by Roxi:
Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson

Why should I respect someone who was a singer and dancer who I never met or touched my life exactly?

I am not belittling your feeling on this, but do not tell me how to feel about someone I don't know.

To be fair, I don't think anybody does. The tributes could have been left alone by FM who don't feel the same way and this whole discussion would not have occured. Personally, I think it's natural that when a famous person dies (and suddenly like this) that their fans will feel grief, it isn't reserved for family and friends.

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Originally posted by cinderella123:

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Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson

Roxi, I am sure it doesnt take a lot of time at all but I personally, me myself, for me, did not respect him in life and dont do now. He was great in his day, I will certainly give him that but to me he is not a legend at all, just got all the PR for doing oddball things in later years. If he had not done all the crazy stuff, he would be forgotten.

You liked him, that is just fine, but we dont all have to give him repect we dont have for him. I think we can all agree on that, yes?

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Originally posted by Miss_S:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Hi hun I didnt see the message I have switched off the news because its all too sad for me.. But yes they were very close and she supported him through the allegations... If you notice, this his new crop of so called friends havnt spoken to him for years

Hypocrites if they said all these kind words to him and didnt alienate him, he probably would still be alive today...

You may well be right.

As I said I don't know too much about his life which is why I've been very interested in the various tribute programmes that have been shown today.

There was a gentleman on VH1 talking today about the "shadowy figures" that surrounded him of late.

In particular the various doctors he sought to seek advice from in later years.

This was obviously just one man's opinion but it sounded like he was desperately lonely and perhaps had no one to turn to.

I wonder just how close he was to his family?

Having said that I believe his death was of natural causes but it's very sad to think he had to rely so heavily on prescription drugs and perhaps on people who were of no help to him whatsoever.

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by Roxi:
Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson

Why should I respect someone who was a singer and dancer who I never met or touched my life exactly?

I am not belittling your feeling on this, but do not tell me how to feel about someone I don't know.

To be fair, I don't think anybody does. The tributes could have been left alone by FM who don't feel the same way and this whole discussion would not have occured. Personally, I think it's natural that when a famous person dies (and suddenly like this) that their fans will feel grief, it isn't reserved for family and friends.

Why do you keep following me around and quoting me Cologne? I am exercising my opinions just the same way other people are here.
I don't see you quoting them, kindly leave me be

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
I dont know much about his relations with his family... Maybe he didnt want their intrusion.. He led a lonely life because he was probably paranoid of people taking advantage of him like he had become accoustomed to...

Another Doctor said these Hollywood doctors like the power they have over stars and they control them through prescription medication... No one knows the truth and its just so sad.. I hope the toxicology results show what happens to him...

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Originally posted by Karma_:
Let's get some perspective here.

As far as the reports suggest, he died due to painkilling medication. He was a 50 year old with health problems, including a previous broken back, going through punishing daily rehearsals for the up coming O2 concerts ( 50 of them) He was not a well man by any means.

Regarding people deserting him, no-one knows WHAT went on between him and former friends. Everyone assumes that he was deserted, but do we know that for certain? From what I see, at the time of his death, he had the support of his (large) family, and a few close friends. No different to most other people past 35, famous or otherwise.

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by Karma_:
Let's get some perspective here.

As far as the reports suggest, he died due to painkilling medication. He was a 50 year old with health problems, including a previous broken back, going through punishing daily rehearsals for the up coming O2 concerts ( 50 of them) He was not a well man by any means.

Regarding people deserting him, no-one knows WHAT went on between him and former friends. Everyone assumes that he was deserted, but do we know that for certain? From what I see, at the time of his death, he had the support of his (large) family, and a few close friends. No different to most other people past 35, famous or otherwise.

Oh crap! I am 36, on mental painkillers and anti depressants and a total alcholic

Bummer!

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Originally posted by Karma_:

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by Karma_:
Let's get some perspective here.

As far as the reports suggest, he died due to painkilling medication. He was a 50 year old with health problems, including a previous broken back, going through punishing daily rehearsals for the up coming O2 concerts ( 50 of them) He was not a well man by any means.

Regarding people deserting him, no-one knows WHAT went on between him and former friends. Everyone assumes that he was deserted, but do we know that for certain? From what I see, at the time of his death, he had the support of his (large) family, and a few close friends. No different to most other people past 35, famous or otherwise.

Oh crap! I am 36, on mental painkillers and anti depressants and a total alcholic

Bummer!

Don't tell me you're moonwalking aswell

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Well said. There's just no need to go into a thread about someone who doesn't interest you, is there?

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
I got sick of being told last night to "respect" Michael Jackson. And it usually came from someone who then posted allegations about the cause of death without any evidence. Shouldn't they have some respect for the Doctor rather than posting unfounded allegations before it has been properly investigated.

Reminded me very much of some completely nutty poster on DS who insisted the child spotted in Morocco was in FACT Maddie McCann even after the childs parents confirmed it was not her this poster on DS insisted the parents were wrong.

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I dont know much about his relations with his family... Maybe he didnt want their intrusion.. He led a lonely life because he was probably paranoid of people taking advantage of him like he had become accoustomed to...

Another Doctor said these Hollywood doctors like the power they have over stars and they control them through prescription medication... No one knows the truth and its just so sad.. I hope the toxicology results show what happens to him...

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Well said. There's just no need to go into a thread about someone who doesn't interest you, is there?

I'm hugely interested in the celebrity grief phenomenon. I think it's worthy of comment on its own actually. In particular, the Jade and Princess Diana ones. The mawkish sentimentism, I mean, not the normal expressions of sadness. It seems to be amplified on forums, too. It's like a mass hysteria thing.

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You know what, Trev? I don't really care. You're quick enough to jump on others, yet can't handle when someone calls you up on your posts.

Go back to your private forum and point and laugh at me and others who feel strongly about respect given to those who deserve respect for what they have contributed. I'm not really bothered.

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Originally posted by cinderella123:

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You know what, Trev? I don't really care. You're quick enough to jump on others, yet can't handle when someone calls you up on your posts.

Go back to your private forum and point and laugh at me and others who feel strongly about respect given to those who deserve respect for what they have contributed. I'm not really bothered.

Respect given to those who deserve respect? Fine, if you think they do, also fine is some dont think they do. That is the crux of the matter is it not?

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Originally posted by Shiver:

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:

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Originally posted by Shiver:

That's brill Shiver

But where's the Jarvis Cocker smilie?

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:

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Originally posted by Shiver:

That's brill Shiver

But where's the Jarvis Cocker smilie?

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Respect given to those who deserve respect? Fine, if you think they do, also fine is some dont think they do. That is the crux of the matter is it not?


Cinders

I'm still waiting to find out exactly what it is I can't handle