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Originally posted by JacksonB:
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un less it's vanessas feltz's demise of course, then absolutely no hand wringing is allowed..

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Originally posted by Mentalist:
Wonder how much my Off The Wall album will get. Mint condition never been opened (vinyl)?

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?

I don't think anyone's done that.

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?

I don't think anyone's done that.

Great! Nobody's done that here, but where I work, people have been reacting in a very crass way - laughing, joking, etc. I'm sure if I had a pet hamster who had died, there would have been more sympathy from some people.

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?

I don't think anyone's done that.

Great! Nobody's done that here, but where I work, people have been reacting in a very crass way - laughing, joking, etc. I'm sure if I had a pet hamster who had died, there would have been more sympathy from some people.

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?

I don't think anyone's done that.

Great! Nobody's done that here, but where I work, people have been reacting in a very crass way - laughing, joking, etc. I'm sure if I had a pet hamster who had died, there would have been more sympathy from some people.

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss

I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
My question is...why did people wait until he snuffed it to buy his music? Does it improve with age and death?

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss

I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.

I think it's more a point about celeb culture and people caring more about some bloke off the telly they have never met, than caring about people who live in the same towns as them in desperate need of help

Well that's my take on it anyway

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Originally posted by Miss_S:

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
My question is...why did people wait until he snuffed it to buy his music? Does it improve with age and death?

That's what I find odd.

I don't own a single Michael Jackson album and I certainly don't feel compelled to go out and buy one now.

Surely if you were a great fan in the first place you would have them all already?

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
They are at the bottom as well. Ebay must be making a killing.

They're refunding all MJ ticket transactions bought on ebay with paypal. That must be a bit gutting for people who thought they're resold tickets for hundreds of quid over the price.

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.

For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.

I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss

I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.

I think it's more a point about celeb culture and people caring more about some bloke off the telly they have never met, than caring about people who live in the same towns as them in desperate need of help

Well that's my take on it anyway

Well, in my case, it's about someone I've been a fan of for 35 years, but it doesn't mean I don't also care about people who live in my town who need help. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by Miss_S:

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
My question is...why did people wait until he snuffed it to buy his music? Does it improve with age and death?

That's what I find odd.

I don't own a single Michael Jackson album and I certainly don't feel compelled to go out and buy one now.

Surely if you were a great fan in the first place you would have them all already?

I think it's more a case of a new audience hearing his music being played a lot on tv and radio at the moment, and realising how good it is.

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Originally posted by fabienne:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss

I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.

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Originally posted by demonickitten:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
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un less it's vanessas feltz's demise of course, then absolutely no hand wringing is allowed..

*Starts making buffet sandwiches*

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
Maybe they aren't, but how many threads do you see on forums about the local wino drowning in a birdbath or something?

I think I am saying that I am puzzled by the lack of perspective on this and not at all surprised about people racing to forums and posting in order to seem like the most caring person in the world cos a celeb is dead.

Grief athletes is an excellent term coined by Speakyourbranes about people who are desperate to post useless platitudes about celebs to seem more caring

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

I don't doubt that the fans feel sad, but their grief simply cannot be compared to a personal loss.

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.

For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.

I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.

The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.

If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head

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Originally posted by TiGi:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.

For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.

I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.

The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.

If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head

I've not seen any abuse

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.

For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.

I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.

The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.

If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by TiGi:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.

For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.

I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.

The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.

If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head

I've not seen any abuse

That's because the posts were deleted and threads got pulled

Plenty of people did see it though.

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.

For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.

I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.

The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.

If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head

Please point this out to me then. Yeah, you get the few who only live their lives through celebrities - be it, Twitter, OK!, Hello, etc. Other than those nutters, is anyone DEMANDING that you start a thread belittling those who do feel a loss?

I should have started a thread when Jade died belittling her deluded fans then. Because that's what I think this thread is all about.

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Originally posted by Miss_S:

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
My question is...why did people wait until he snuffed it to buy his music? Does it improve with age and death?

That's what I find odd.

I don't own a single Michael Jackson album and I certainly don't feel compelled to go out and buy one now.

Surely if you were a great fan in the first place you would have them all already?

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Originally posted by Mentalist:
They will probably repackage them and call them Limited Edition. Then in a few days time they will bring out an album of unknown, never heard before, previously lost songs. Now this irritates me.

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Originally posted by The Secretary:
On the Itunes album chart, MJ has 9 out of the top ten.

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by china:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

I was thought to never speak ill of the dead no matter what because the wages of sin is death and after that their slate is wiped clean...

People should put themselves in other peoples shoes for a change maybe then can we progress together in this wicked world that we live in...

Not meaning to be provocative, and I am in no way suggesting that MJ should be categorised in this way, but by that reasoning wouldn't it also that mean that we should all respect the likes of Myrah Hindley and Adolf Hitler because they're dead?

Goodness me MJ and Hitler? come on now I think we should not speak ill of the dead and as a Christian,I do believe each individual will be judged after death on their activities on earth..

PCE
remember that website i went on yesterday and i said theres a video of MJ's last moments?
im on it again-to download an album and someone has put a recording of a KKK sermon from yesterday-and its all about MJ
theyve quoted just a few lines of the sermon, and i tell ya what, they are sick evil b@stards
but we all know that anyway

Some people are that sick in the head ... Im trying to avoid such blogs, some threads in here and even the news(with their hypocrisy)...

all the tributes from famous folk are peeing me off...hypocrits

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Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:
On the Itunes album chart, MJ has 9 out of the top ten.

Weird innit?

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.

For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.

I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.

The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.

If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head

Please point this out to me then. Yeah, you get the few who only live their lives through celebrities - be it, Twitter, OK!, Hello, etc. Other than those nutters, is anyone DEMANDING that you start a thread belittling those who do feel a loss?

I should have started a thread when Jade died belittling her deluded fans then. Because that's what I think this thread is all about.

Who started a thread belittling anyone? :boggle:

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I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.


I think it's more a point about celeb culture and people caring more about some bloke off the telly they have never met, than caring about people who live in the same towns as them in desperate need of help

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Originally posted by cinderella123:

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I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.


I think it's more a point about celeb culture and people caring more about some bloke off the telly they have never met, than caring about people who live in the same towns as them in desperate need of help

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.

For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.

I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.

The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.

If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head

Please point this out to me then. Yeah, you get the few who only live their lives through celebrities - be it, Twitter, OK!, Hello, etc. Other than those nutters, is anyone DEMANDING that you start a thread belittling those who do feel a loss?

I should have started a thread when Jade died belittling her deluded fans then. Because that's what I think this thread is all about.

Who started a thread belittling anyone? :boggle:

Uh, You in your opening post "Am I missing sumat?

Sorry to start another MJ thread, but if I see 'have some respect' one more time, I might have to peel my face off (not as a tribute).

Some people didn't like him. A fact not changed by him snuffing it. Get over it."

Did you post something similar when Jade died? Nah. It was an obvious dig at the people who admired him for accomplishing something with his life.

I don't bloody care that you, personally, can't see that, but others can.