quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
I'm still mourning the death of Bill Hicks
He'd have a field day with all this
My boss used to be called Bill Hicks, wonder if its the same guy?
Could be!
Did your boss chain smoke and drop acid?
quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
if you have service pack 3 loaded then it's that , that cuases the prblem, i couldn't find it onthe add/remove list, but it is loaded onto mine, thats why i couldn't fix it..
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
I'm still mourning the death of Bill Hicks
He'd have a field day with all this
My boss used to be called Bill Hicks, wonder if its the same guy?
Could be!
Did your boss chain smoke and drop acid?
Weell he did chain smoke but the only thing I noticed him dropping was his fag end in the wastebin which then caught light and he got his foot jammed trying to stamp it out
quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
bill hicks and george carlin , will and should always be mourned.
quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
I got sick of being told last night to "respect" Michael Jackson. And it usually came from someone who then posted allegations about the cause of death without any evidence. Shouldn't they have some respect for the Doctor rather than posting unfounded allegations before it has been properly investigated.
Reminded me very much of some completely nutty poster on DS who insisted the child spotted in Morocco was in FACT Maddie McCann even after the childs parents confirmed it was not her this poster on DS insisted the parents were wrong.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
God, I'm getting adverts at the top now for MJ memorabilia.
quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
They are at the bottom as well. Ebay must be making a killing.
quote:Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
I got sick of being told last night to "respect" Michael Jackson. And it usually came from someone who then posted allegations about the cause of death without any evidence. Shouldn't they have some respect for the Doctor rather than posting unfounded allegations before it has been properly investigated.
Reminded me very much of some completely nutty poster on DS who insisted the child spotted in Morocco was in FACT Maddie McCann even after the childs parents confirmed it was not her this poster on DS insisted the parents were wrong.
I think i know who your talking about
quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
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Reminded me very much of some completely nutty poster on DS who insisted the child spotted in Morocco was in FACT Maddie McCann even after the childs parents confirmed it was not her this poster on DS insisted the parents were wrong.
Clarence mumma xxquote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
God, I'm getting adverts at the top now for MJ memorabilia.
,and they turn into the most appalling bun fights,full of hand wringers and Im more upset than you therefore Im the better person rants.quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
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Reminded me very much of some completely nutty poster on DS who insisted the child spotted in Morocco was in FACT Maddie McCann even after the childs parents confirmed it was not her this poster on DS insisted the parents were wrong.
I shouldn't laugh really but honestly *shakes head while laughing*
How can you argue with someone who is that mental?
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
You don't argue with them Veggeroo, you just take the piss
rancid sardines for Clarence quote:Originally posted by demonickitten:
How many years have threads been posted on forums about death,abduction,breast feeding even
It always happens,I just stay away from them if they are no interest,Im not an MJ fan,and have no desire to validate myself on a screen about how upset I am ,simples.
Other people feel the need to express themselves differently,thats life Jim.
quote:Originally posted by Mentalist:
Wonder how much my Off The Wall album will get. Mint condition never been opened (vinyl)?
quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
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un less it's vanessas feltz's demise of course, then absolutely no hand wringing is allowed..
quote:Originally posted by Mentalist:
Wonder how much my Off The Wall album will get. Mint condition never been opened (vinyl)?
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?
I don't think anyone's done that.
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?
I don't think anyone's done that.
Great!
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?
I don't think anyone's done that.
Great!
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Big fan of MJ here, but it's a private thing. If other people don't care, that's fine by me, but making negative comments to hurt people who care about someone who died - why would anyone do that?
I don't think anyone's done that.
Great!
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss
I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
My question is...why did people wait until he snuffed it to buy his music? Does it improve with age and death?
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss
I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.
I think it's more a point about celeb culture and people caring more about some bloke off the telly they have never met, than caring about people who live in the same towns as them in desperate need of help
Well that's my take on it anyway
quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
My question is...why did people wait until he snuffed it to buy his music? Does it improve with age and death?
That's what I find odd.
I don't own a single Michael Jackson album and I certainly don't feel compelled to go out and buy one now.
Surely if you were a great fan in the first place you would have them all already?
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
They are at the bottom as well. Ebay must be making a killing.
They're refunding all MJ ticket transactions bought on ebay with paypal. That must be a bit gutting for people who thought they're resold tickets for hundreds of quid over the price.
quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.
For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.
I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss
I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.
I think it's more a point about celeb culture and people caring more about some bloke off the telly they have never met, than caring about people who live in the same towns as them in desperate need of help
Well that's my take on it anyway
Well, in my case, it's about someone I've been a fan of for 35 years, but it doesn't mean I don't also care about people who live in my town who need help. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
My question is...why did people wait until he snuffed it to buy his music? Does it improve with age and death?
That's what I find odd.
I don't own a single Michael Jackson album and I certainly don't feel compelled to go out and buy one now.
Surely if you were a great fan in the first place you would have them all already?
I think it's more a case of a new audience hearing his music being played a lot on tv and radio at the moment, and realising how good it is.
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
I would have more sympathy for someone's hamster dying than MJ because that's a personal loss
I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.
quote:Originally posted by demonickitten:quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
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un less it's vanessas feltz's demise of course, then absolutely no hand wringing is allowed..
*Starts making buffet sandwiches*
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
Maybe they aren't, but how many threads do you see on forums about the local wino drowning in a birdbath or something?
I think I am saying that I am puzzled by the lack of perspective on this and not at all surprised about people racing to forums and posting in order to seem like the most caring person in the world cos a celeb is dead.
Grief athletes is an excellent term coined by Speakyourbranes about people who are desperate to post useless platitudes about celebs to seem more caring
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
I don't doubt that the fans feel sad, but their grief simply cannot be compared to a personal loss.
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.
For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.
I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.
The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head
quote:Originally posted by TiGi:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.
For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.
I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.
The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head
I've not seen any abuse
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.
For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.
I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.
The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by TiGi:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.
For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.
I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.
The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head
I've not seen any abuse
That's because the posts were deleted and threads got pulled
Plenty of people did see it though.
quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.
For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.
I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.
The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head
Please point this out to me then. Yeah, you get the few who only live their lives through celebrities - be it, Twitter, OK!, Hello, etc. Other than those nutters, is anyone DEMANDING that you start a thread belittling those who do feel a loss?
I should have started a thread when Jade died belittling her deluded fans then. Because that's what I think this thread is all about.
quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
My question is...why did people wait until he snuffed it to buy his music? Does it improve with age and death?
That's what I find odd.
I don't own a single Michael Jackson album and I certainly don't feel compelled to go out and buy one now.
Surely if you were a great fan in the first place you would have them all already?
quote:Originally posted by Mentalist:
They will probably repackage them and call them Limited Edition. Then in a few days time they will bring out an album of unknown, never heard before, previously lost songs. Now this irritates me.
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
On the Itunes album chart, MJ has 9 out of the top ten.
They all abandoned him when the going was tough I think only Elizabeth Taylor risked her career and stood by him... I commend her for that the other can stick it where the sun dont shine...quote:Originally posted by Templetonpeck:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:Some people are that sick in the head ... Im trying to avoid such blogs, some threads in here and even the news(with their hypocrisy)...quote:Originally posted by china:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:Goodness me MJ and Hitler? come on nowquote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
I was thought to never speak ill of the dead no matter what because the wages of sin is death and after that their slate is wiped clean...
People should put themselves in other peoples shoes for a change maybe then can we progress together in this wicked world that we live in...
Not meaning to be provocative, and I am in no way suggesting that MJ should be categorised in this way, but by that reasoning wouldn't it also that mean that we should all respect the likes of Myrah Hindley and Adolf Hitler because they're dead?I think we should not speak ill of the dead and as a Christian,I do believe each individual will be judged after death on their activities on earth..
PCE
remember that website i went on yesterday and i said theres a video of MJ's last moments?
im on it again-to download an album and someone has put a recording of a KKK sermon from yesterday-and its all about MJ
theyve quoted just a few lines of the sermon, and i tell ya what, they are sick evil b@stards
but we all know that anyway
all the tributes from famous folk are peeing me off...hypocrits
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
On the Itunes album chart, MJ has 9 out of the top ten.
Weird innit?
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.
For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.
I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.
The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head
Please point this out to me then. Yeah, you get the few who only live their lives through celebrities - be it, Twitter, OK!, Hello, etc. Other than those nutters, is anyone DEMANDING that you start a thread belittling those who do feel a loss?
I should have started a thread when Jade died belittling her deluded fans then. Because that's what I think this thread is all about.
Who started a thread belittling anyone? :boggle:
quote:I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.
I think it's more a point about celeb culture and people caring more about some bloke off the telly they have never met, than caring about people who live in the same towns as them in desperate need of help
quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:quote:I know, but that's where I disagree, as it's almost saying that people's feelings for an artist/performer aren't valid in some way.
I think it's more a point about celeb culture and people caring more about some bloke off the telly they have never met, than caring about people who live in the same towns as them in desperate need of help
quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
You know what? I wasn't a great Michael Jackson fan, but I do recognise what he and his family contributed to music.
For months we were bombarded with Jade Goody threads - updates on her progress, updates on her treatment, updates on her relationship with Jack, updates on what will happen to her kids, updates on her bloody funeral procession and who the heck was she? Someone who appeared on Big Brother in the UK 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY thing she did was play the media.
I don't give a monkey's if people don't like him. I don't give a monkey's if people think he was guilty of child abuse (although he was found innocent of all charges). The fact is that there are people who loved him for his music and by belittling their opinon, you are only belittling yourself.
The point that EVERYONE misses, is that no-one's belittled anyone's right to feel sad. The abuse has been flying ONLY from MJ fans who think we should all feel the same way.
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head
Please point this out to me then. Yeah, you get the few who only live their lives through celebrities - be it, Twitter, OK!, Hello, etc. Other than those nutters, is anyone DEMANDING that you start a thread belittling those who do feel a loss?
I should have started a thread when Jade died belittling her deluded fans then. Because that's what I think this thread is all about.
Who started a thread belittling anyone? :boggle:
Uh, You in your opening post "Am I missing sumat?
Sorry to start another MJ thread, but if I see 'have some respect' one more time, I might have to peel my face off (not as a tribute).
Some people didn't like him. A fact not changed by him snuffing it. Get over it."
Did you post something similar when Jade died? Nah. It was an obvious dig at the people who admired him for accomplishing something with his life.
I don't bloody care that you, personally, can't see that, but others can.
quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
They all abandoned him when the going was tough I think only Elizabeth Taylor risked her career and stood by him... I commend her for that the other can stick it where the sun dont shine...
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
If I have to say this again, I might eat my own head
Hi hun I didnt see the message I have switched off the news because its all too sad for me.. But yes they were very close and she supported him through the allegations... If you notice, this his new crop of so called friends havnt spoken to him for yearsquote:Originally posted by Miss_S:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
They all abandoned him when the going was tough I think only Elizabeth Taylor risked her career and stood by him... I commend her for that the other can stick it where the sun dont shine...
I don't know whether you saw the Larry King show broadcast today in which he read out a statment from Elizabeth Taylor.
It was very moving - she had so much affection for him and is so completely grief stricken.
Not having followed MJ's career particularly over the years, I had no idea the two of them were so close.
quote:Get over it
quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson
quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:quote:Get over it
You know what, Trev? I don't really care. You're quick enough to jump on others, yet can't handle when someone calls you up on your posts.
Go back to your private forum and point and laugh at me and others who feel strongly about respect given to those who deserve respect for what they have contributed. I'm not really bothered.
There is no point hun just ignore .....quote:Originally posted by Suzi-Q:quote:Get over it
You know what, Trev? I don't really care. You're quick enough to jump on others, yet can't handle when someone calls you up on your posts.
Go back to your private forum and point and laugh at me and others who feel strongly about respect given to those who deserve respect for what they have contributed. I'm not really bothered.
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Teh Trev has a private forum?
*feels shunned like an Amish with a walkman*
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Teh Trev has a private forum?
*feels shunned like an Amish with a walkman*
You wouldn't like it, Vegetablist
We're all satanists and drunks
All 4 of us
quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Hi hun I didnt see the message I have switched off the news because its all too sad for me.. But yes they were very close and she supported him through the allegations... If you notice, this his new crop of so called friends havnt spoken to him for years
Hypocrites if they said all these kind words to him and didnt alienate him, he probably would still be alive today...
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson
Why should I respect someone who was a singer and dancer who I never met or touched my life exactly?
I am not belittling your feeling on this, but do not tell me how to feel about someone I don't know.
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Teh Trev has a private forum?
*feels shunned like an Amish with a walkman*
You wouldn't like it, Vegetablist
We're all satanists and drunks
All 4 of us
have you had those ribs removed yet??
I have the webcam standing by
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
To be fair, I don't think anybody does. The tributes could have been left alone by FM who don't feel the same way and this whole discussion would not have occured. Personally, I think it's natural that when a famous person dies (and suddenly like this) that their fans will feel grief, it isn't reserved for family and friends.
quote:Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson
Why should I respect someone who was a singer and dancer who I never met or touched my life exactly?
I am not belittling your feeling on this, but do not tell me how to feel about someone I don't know.
To be fair, I don't think anybody does. The tributes could have been left alone by FM who don't feel the same way and this whole discussion would not have occured. Personally, I think it's natural that when a famous person dies (and suddenly like this) that their fans will feel grief, it isn't reserved for family and friends.
quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:quote:Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson
Roxi, I am sure it doesnt take a lot of time at all but I personally, me myself, for me, did not respect him in life and dont do now. He was great in his day, I will certainly give him that but to me he is not a legend at all, just got all the PR for doing oddball things in later years. If he had not done all the crazy stuff, he would be forgotten.
You liked him, that is just fine, but we dont all have to give him repect we dont have for him. I think we can all agree on that, yes?
I dont know much about his relations with his family... Maybe he didnt want their intrusion.. He led a lonely life because he was probably paranoid of people taking advantage of him like he had become accoustomed to...quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Hi hun I didnt see the message I have switched off the news because its all too sad for me.. But yes they were very close and she supported him through the allegations... If you notice, this his new crop of so called friends havnt spoken to him for years
Hypocrites if they said all these kind words to him and didnt alienate him, he probably would still be alive today...
You may well be right.
As I said I don't know too much about his life which is why I've been very interested in the various tribute programmes that have been shown today.
There was a gentleman on VH1 talking today about the "shadowy figures" that surrounded him of late.
In particular the various doctors he sought to seek advice from in later years.
This was obviously just one man's opinion but it sounded like he was desperately lonely and perhaps had no one to turn to.
I wonder just how close he was to his family?
Having said that I believe his death was of natural causes but it's very sad to think he had to rely so heavily on prescription drugs and perhaps on people who were of no help to him whatsoever.
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
Respect doesnt take to much time to give to a legend like Michael Jackson
Why should I respect someone who was a singer and dancer who I never met or touched my life exactly?
I am not belittling your feeling on this, but do not tell me how to feel about someone I don't know.
To be fair, I don't think anybody does. The tributes could have been left alone by FM who don't feel the same way and this whole discussion would not have occured. Personally, I think it's natural that when a famous person dies (and suddenly like this) that their fans will feel grief, it isn't reserved for family and friends.
Why do you keep following me around and quoting me Cologne? I am exercising my opinions just the same way other people are here.
I don't see you quoting them, kindly leave me be
quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
I dont know much about his relations with his family... Maybe he didnt want their intrusion.. He led a lonely life because he was probably paranoid of people taking advantage of him like he had become accoustomed to...
Another Doctor said these Hollywood doctors like the power they have over stars and they control them through prescription medication... No one knows the truth and its just so sad.. I hope the toxicology results show what happens to him...
quote:Originally posted by Karma_:
Let's get some perspective here.
As far as the reports suggest, he died due to painkilling medication. He was a 50 year old with health problems, including a previous broken back, going through punishing daily rehearsals for the up coming O2 concerts ( 50 of them) He was not a well man by any means.
Regarding people deserting him, no-one knows WHAT went on between him and former friends. Everyone assumes that he was deserted, but do we know that for certain? From what I see, at the time of his death, he had the support of his (large) family, and a few close friends. No different to most other people past 35, famous or otherwise.
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by Karma_:
Let's get some perspective here.
As far as the reports suggest, he died due to painkilling medication. He was a 50 year old with health problems, including a previous broken back, going through punishing daily rehearsals for the up coming O2 concerts ( 50 of them) He was not a well man by any means.
Regarding people deserting him, no-one knows WHAT went on between him and former friends. Everyone assumes that he was deserted, but do we know that for certain? From what I see, at the time of his death, he had the support of his (large) family, and a few close friends. No different to most other people past 35, famous or otherwise.
Oh crap! I am 36, on mental painkillers and anti depressants and a total alcholic
Bummer!
quote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by Karma_:
Let's get some perspective here.
As far as the reports suggest, he died due to painkilling medication. He was a 50 year old with health problems, including a previous broken back, going through punishing daily rehearsals for the up coming O2 concerts ( 50 of them) He was not a well man by any means.
Regarding people deserting him, no-one knows WHAT went on between him and former friends. Everyone assumes that he was deserted, but do we know that for certain? From what I see, at the time of his death, he had the support of his (large) family, and a few close friends. No different to most other people past 35, famous or otherwise.
Oh crap! I am 36, on mental painkillers and anti depressants and a total alcholic
Bummer!
Don't tell me you're moonwalking aswell
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Well said. There's just no need to go into a thread about someone who doesn't interest you, is there?
I think you will find they are one and the same person, Helen.quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
I got sick of being told last night to "respect" Michael Jackson. And it usually came from someone who then posted allegations about the cause of death without any evidence. Shouldn't they have some respect for the Doctor rather than posting unfounded allegations before it has been properly investigated.
Reminded me very much of some completely nutty poster on DS who insisted the child spotted in Morocco was in FACT Maddie McCann even after the childs parents confirmed it was not her this poster on DS insisted the parents were wrong.
quote:I dont know much about his relations with his family... Maybe he didnt want their intrusion.. He led a lonely life because he was probably paranoid of people taking advantage of him like he had become accoustomed to...
Another Doctor said these Hollywood doctors like the power they have over stars and they control them through prescription medication... No one knows the truth and its just so sad.. I hope the toxicology results show what happens to him...
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Well said. There's just no need to go into a thread about someone who doesn't interest you, is there?
I'm hugely interested in the celebrity grief phenomenon. I think it's worthy of comment on its own actually. In particular, the Jade and Princess Diana ones. The mawkish sentimentism, I mean, not the normal expressions of sadness. It seems to be amplified on forums, too. It's like a mass hysteria thing.
quote:You know what, Trev? I don't really care. You're quick enough to jump on others, yet can't handle when someone calls you up on your posts.
Go back to your private forum and point and laugh at me and others who feel strongly about respect given to those who deserve respect for what they have contributed. I'm not really bothered.
quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:quote:You know what, Trev? I don't really care. You're quick enough to jump on others, yet can't handle when someone calls you up on your posts.
Go back to your private forum and point and laugh at me and others who feel strongly about respect given to those who deserve respect for what they have contributed. I'm not really bothered.
Respect given to those who deserve respect? Fine, if you think they do, also fine is some dont think they do. That is the crux of the matter is it not?
quote:Originally posted by Shiver:
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:quote:Originally posted by Shiver:
That's brill Shiver
But where's the Jarvis Cocker smilie?
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:quote:Originally posted by Shiver:
That's brill Shiver
But where's the Jarvis Cocker smilie?
quote:Respect given to those who deserve respect? Fine, if you think they do, also fine is some dont think they do. That is the crux of the matter is it not?
Cinders
I'm still waiting to find out exactly what it is I can't handle
Or you might hurt yourself in some way and that is never good. 
