see, that stuff doesn't bother me

It doesn't me normally. Both my parents were from a farming background and I munched my way through offal, pork trotters and tails, chicken innards etc, etc. It's just sometimes seeing it in black and white I feel a bit of a 'bring on the veggie soup' moment.

Because there are veggies and vegans

apparently, there is a divide between veggies and vagans? not sure what it is  but would think some folk around the world would love to eat anything they could get. each to their own IMO

Yeh I know what a vegan is, but a fish is still living same as sheep and pigs are but they wilfully kill them!

Not quite.

Pescetarian: no meat or poultry but fish / shellfish allowed

Vegetarian: no meat, poultry or fish

Vegan: no animal products (eggs, dairy) or fish or meat or poultry

In a nutshell....

As far as I know, true vegetarians don't eat any meat or fish, and vegans don't eat meat, fish or dairy (eggs, milk etc).

Now that could be misconstrued if read by the wrong eyes

I stand by your correction Bateman, and admit I have it wrong  

when did all this veggie thng start? i cant recall this back in the 50s? seems to me that the start of all is directly related to the ones in "celeb" status. anyone in the 50s refusing to eat stuff were made to sit there untill it was finished. call me old fashioned but this is how i see it.

to see the folk in africa scraping around in the dirt for grains of rice spilled from bags which they did not get, because they were too weak to stand. And to add a point, some of the celebs who go there to adopt/help folk makes me sickcoz they are veggies or vegans.

It's so trooooo.  No vegetarians in Britain prior to 01/01/1950. 

indeed, whats the point?

Do Veggie restaurants have a "Meat Menu"

You do realise that to consume meat you consume many times more of the world's resources than a vegetarian does?   Being as how all them pigs and cows have to eat vegetable matter to convert it to meat.

In fact, if someone truly cares about feeding the world, being veggie is the only way to be.

In essence, wrong.

Soya, I'm guessing

There are lots of meat substitutes around (Quorn, Linda McCartney stuff etc).

MMD, I was born in the 70's so have no idea what happened in households circa 1950's I'm afraid, but I'm struggling to accept that there was no vegetarianism in the second world war.

Re Africa and hunger,  I will never ever understand why it is probably the world's largest and most donated to charity yet there are still people starving and desperate for water. Makes sense none.