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Daughters dad has phoned her and asked her to go to spain on holiday with him and her half bro in september, he phoned her on Monday to tell her that he had left half bro's mum *doesn't like responsibility if you ask me* daughter is happy about that as she has never liked her, anyway my first concern is he is a crap dad, his fathers day present is still sitting here, as he has been too busy going on a bender after his split Roll Eyes and he would probably get drunk and leave daughter somewhere

and

second he has now found a new mate, who is also going on this holiday, a bloke i went out with a couple of years ago that when i finished it, he broke my bedroom window trying to get in to speak to me and then tried breaking my door in, it took 4 coppers to arrest him, frightened me and my my daughter half to death

daughter can remember all of this and hates the bloke, but wouldlike to go on holiday, i have said no and now i am the bad parent Roll Eyes

she hasn't got a passport so my decision is final anyway Big Grin

would you have let her go?

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Originally posted by Aimee:
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
No you're a bloody brilliant parent! I wouldn't send my daughter(If I had one) either.


Kudos to youClapping Hug


you don't think i'm being nasty then?


No you are thinking of your daughter's safety and welfare, and safe guarding her from any potential trauma. well done to you.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by Skylark24:
dfficult one Aimee, your daughters 13 is that right? why not a compromise like a weekend away first to see if he is responsible enough to take her abroad? at least she would be in this Country if it didnt work out and you could collect her if she wanted to come home


i don't mind him taking her away, if it was just him and her half bro, but to me it just seems like a piss up and daughter is the un paid babysitter

she can't see where i'm coming from though, she hasn't seen him for 6 weeks now, no phone calls or anything up until now, she can call him all the names under the sun, but if i do i'm in the wrong Roll Eyes
Aimee
Look at it this way....if you didnt know these two men (ex hubby and his mate) would you trust either enough to employ as a childminder? If the answer is no, then you made the right decision.

It's really soon after his split from new wife/partner, so may be fuelled by all the wrong reasons, especially as he is taking their son away too....I'll show her I can cope/have a good time scenario.

Bribe daughter....13 yr old girls are easily swayed Big Grin..clothes/holiday anything really...sure she'll think you are the mother from hell at the moment....but as said above, she'll be safe. She'll get over it.

If ex hubby proves himself reliable and trustworthy over a period of time, then holidays can be planned in the future.
fz
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Originally posted by Aimee:
Daughters dad has phoned her and asked her to go to spain on holiday with him and her half bro in september, he phoned her on Monday to tell her that he had left half bro's mum *doesn't like responsibility if you ask me* daughter is happy about that as she has never liked her, anyway my first concern is he is a crap dad, his fathers day present is still sitting here, as he has been too busy going on a bender after his split Roll Eyes and he would probably get drunk and leave daughter somewhere

and

second he has now found a new mate, who is also going on this holiday, a bloke i went out with a couple of years ago that when i finished it, he broke my bedroom window trying to get in to speak to me and then tried breaking my door in, it took 4 coppers to arrest him, frightened me and my my daughter half to death

daughter can remember all of this and hates the bloke, but wouldlike to go on holiday, i have said no and now i am the bad parent Roll Eyes

she hasn't got a passport so my decision is final anyway Big Grin

would you have let her go?


Definitely not... Shake Head
could you not take her away for a few days instead..
slimfern
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Originally posted by erinp:
Your are not being nasty,you are simply putting your childs interests first,she may not like it but she will just have to suck it up.
Her father should know better than to take her away with a guy that has caused her upset in the past.


Nod just what i was thinking aimee

just imagine the worry you would have the whole time she was away
FM
Noooo she can't go, if her father has shown no consistency in her life to date, he probably never will... maybe he needs a babysitter for her half brother? will he change the plan last minute and cancel?? any of these possibilities would be a good enough reason to stop her being hurt yet again.(even if she thinks you are being mean) maybe you could bring her away for a week somewhere
Mollie
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Originally posted by fz:
Look at it this way....if you didnt know these two men (ex hubby and his mate) would you trust either enough to employ as a childminder? If the answer is no, then you made the right decision.

It's really soon after his split from new wife/partner, so may be fuelled by all the wrong reasons, especially as he is taking their son away too....I'll show her I can cope/have a good time scenario.

Bribe daughter....13 yr old girls are easily swayed Big Grin..clothes/holiday anything really...sure she'll think you are the mother from hell at the moment....but as said above, she'll be safe. She'll get over it.

If ex hubby proves himself reliable and trustworthy over a period of time, then holidays can be planned in the future.


this is the way i see it too, i wouldn't trust him to look after my bedding plants, let alone my daughter Laugh she's nearly 15 btw, he doesn't even pay child support so he's not exactly a caring parent
Aimee
OMG!! You appear to have stolen a very small piece of my life story!! Think we miror eachothers lives! Eeker I have been through almost the same crap myself! NO!! Dont let her go. He sounds like my ex husband (He was not only a pisshead, but also a druggie, woman beater, etc etc) and is not responsible enough. Imagine how you'll feel if something (God forbid) happened to her. Believe me, when I was getting grief last year, my daughter finally witnessed what he was like when he was on a bender and realised I had her best interests at heart.It'll be hard, but stick to your guns! Hug
Little Miss Spurs
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Originally posted by Aimee:
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Originally posted by fz:
Look at it this way....if you didnt know these two men (ex hubby and his mate) would you trust either enough to employ as a childminder? If the answer is no, then you made the right decision.

It's really soon after his split from new wife/partner, so may be fuelled by all the wrong reasons, especially as he is taking their son away too....I'll show her I can cope/have a good time scenario.

Bribe daughter....13 yr old girls are easily swayed Big Grin..clothes/holiday anything really...sure she'll think you are the mother from hell at the moment....but as said above, she'll be safe. She'll get over it.

If ex hubby proves himself reliable and trustworthy over a period of time, then holidays can be planned in the future.


this is the way i see it too, i wouldn't trust him to look after my bedding plants, let alone my daughter Laugh she's nearly 15 btw, he doesn't even pay child support so he's not exactly a caring parent


There you go then...give him a tray of marigolds, see how he fares and if they keel over and wilt due to neglect, you are in the right. Big Grin
fz
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Originally posted by slimfern:
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Originally posted by Aimee:
Daughters dad has phoned her and asked her to go to spain on holiday with him and her half bro in september, he phoned her on Monday to tell her that he had left half bro's mum *doesn't like responsibility if you ask me* daughter is happy about that as she has never liked her, anyway my first concern is he is a crap dad, his fathers day present is still sitting here, as he has been too busy going on a bender after his split Roll Eyes and he would probably get drunk and leave daughter somewhere

and

second he has now found a new mate, who is also going on this holiday, a bloke i went out with a couple of years ago that when i finished it, he broke my bedroom window trying to get in to speak to me and then tried breaking my door in, it took 4 coppers to arrest him, frightened me and my my daughter half to death

daughter can remember all of this and hates the bloke, but wouldlike to go on holiday, i have said no and now i am the bad parent Roll Eyes

she hasn't got a passport so my decision is final anyway Big Grin

would you have let her go?


Definitely not... Shake Head
could you not take her away for a few days instead..


thats what i'm thinking of doing Thumbs Up i'm just going to have to get used to being ignored for the next couple of days Roll Eyes
Aimee
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Originally posted by Aimee:
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Originally posted by Skylark24:
dfficult one Aimee, your daughters 13 is that right? why not a compromise like a weekend away first to see if he is responsible enough to take her abroad? at least she would be in this Country if it didnt work out and you could collect her if she wanted to come home


i don't mind him taking her away, if it was just him and her half bro, but to me it just seems like a piss up and daughter is the un paid babysitter

she can't see where i'm coming from though, she hasn't seen him for 6 weeks now, no phone calls or anything up until now, she can call him all the names under the sun, but if i do i'm in the wrong Roll Eyes
i have a daughter she is 25 now and had something similiar, if you feel this way say no, she will throw a wobbly but she will get over it xx
FM
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Originally posted by Aimee:
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Originally posted by slimfern:
quote:
Originally posted by Aimee:
Daughters dad has phoned her and asked her to go to spain on holiday with him and her half bro in september, he phoned her on Monday to tell her that he had left half bro's mum *doesn't like responsibility if you ask me* daughter is happy about that as she has never liked her, anyway my first concern is he is a crap dad, his fathers day present is still sitting here, as he has been too busy going on a bender after his split Roll Eyes and he would probably get drunk and leave daughter somewhere

and

second he has now found a new mate, who is also going on this holiday, a bloke i went out with a couple of years ago that when i finished it, he broke my bedroom window trying to get in to speak to me and then tried breaking my door in, it took 4 coppers to arrest him, frightened me and my my daughter half to death

daughter can remember all of this and hates the bloke, but wouldlike to go on holiday, i have said no and now i am the bad parent Roll Eyes

she hasn't got a passport so my decision is final anyway Big Grin

would you have let her go?


Definitely not... Shake Head
could you not take her away for a few days instead..


thats what i'm thinking of doing Thumbs Up i'm just going to have to get used to being ignored for the next couple of days Roll Eyes


Par for the course hun... Valentine
slimfern
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
God no!! Eeker Let her go away with a man that has proved himself violent in the past...I don't bloody well think so

If you were the type of fool that would allow this...I'd be phoning social services myself....you did the right thing ...put up with her moaning knowing you are an excellent mother for saying no Thumbs Up


thank you, she will just have to put up with my decision Thumbs Up

like i said NO passport so she can't go anyway without my say so
Aimee
Aimee
If I were you, I would remind daughter of the mate's violence and tell her you are concerned in case he was violent towards her whilst away from home.
Don't tell her that you are worried in case her dad just wants her as a baby sitter. Tell her that if it were just her dad, half brother and her going, that you wouldn't be nearly so worried.

Maybe if she thinks you're not getting at her dad, she might accept it better
nanalou
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Originally posted by Aimee:
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Originally posted by mozart:
if i wasnt sure that my daughter was his upper most priority then i would be reluctant to let her go.


thats my problem, he knows nothing about the girl Shake Head except her name and D.O.B and then he'd probably spell her name wrong


Sorry Aimee, but you, at a presumably older age than your daughter, mada a decision to have a relationship with both of these guys and to have a child with one of them. Good on you if you are trying to protect her now, but it must be a bit confusing for her Confused
FM
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Originally posted by Nana Lou:
Aimee
If I were you, I would remind daughter of the mate's violence and tell her you are concerned in case he was violent towards her whilst away from home.
Don't tell her that you are worried in case her dad just wants her as a baby sitter. Tell her that if it were just her dad, half brother and her going, that you wouldn't be nearly so worried.

Maybe if she thinks you're not getting at her dad, she might accept it better


i've told her all this, the problem is, he has phoned her all sorry for himself, i've left her and i'm sleeping on a mates floor, daughter *my poor dad* yeah right, i already know his new g/friends name Roll Eyes
Aimee
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Aimee:
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Originally posted by mozart:
if i wasnt sure that my daughter was his upper most priority then i would be reluctant to let her go.


thats my problem, he knows nothing about the girl Shake Head except her name and D.O.B and then he'd probably spell her name wrong


Sorry Aimee, but you, at a presumably older age than your daughter, mada a decision to have a relationship with both of these guys and to have a child with one of them. Good on you if you are trying to protect her now, but it must be a bit confusing for her Confused


in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year
Aimee
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Originally posted by Soozy woo:
sounds like a complete idiot ,,,,it'd probably come to nothing anyway. tell him that you're daughter hasn't got a passport and leave it up to him ....if he is bothered about going through all the rigmarole of getting her a passport .............then - think again.

put the ball into his court .......then he cannot blame you.


his plans never do Roll Eyes he can't do anything about a passport without my permission
Aimee

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