I haven't got a clue, but what I do know is I LOVE trifle. 
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The development of art goes hand in hand if not powered by the development of humanity.
Not only does it reflect our need for expression but also reflects our social circumstances.
Further on it reveals our new understanding of mechanics through perspective and theoretical developments from God fearing to self awareness.
They are inextricably intertwined
Saint posted:The development of art goes hand in hand if not powered by the development of humanity.
Not only does it reflect our need for expression but also reflects our social circumstances.
Further on it reveals our new understanding of mechanics through perspective and theoretical developments from God fearing to self awareness.
They are inextricably intertwined
I don't like the jelly in trifle
Civilisations, a 9 part series, starts on BBC2 at 21.00. It looks at how art has played a key role in the development of civilisations over thousands of years.
The first film by Simon Schama looks at the formative role art and the creative imagination have played in the forging of humanity itself.
The film opens with Simon's passionate endorsement of the creativespirit in humanity and the way in which art can help to forge the civilised life. Civilisation may be impossible to define, but its opposite - evidenced throughout history in the human urge to destroy - is all too evident whenever and wherever it erupts. Simon Schama explores the remote origins of human creativity with the first known marks made some 80,000 years ago in South African caves - marks which were not dictated merely by humanity's physical needs. He marvels at the later cave works - shapes of hands, in red stencils on the walls of caves, and at the paintings of bison and bulls, and Stone Age carvings.
As time passes, the elements of civilisation are assembled - written language, codes of law, and expressions of warrior power forged in metals. And humanity begins to produce art not just for ritual, as Simon discovers in Minoan civilisation. But how do such cultures arise and how do they fall? Simon travels to the civilisations of Petra in the Middle East and the Maya in Central America to explore those questions. He finds that ultimately civilisations depend on humanity's relationship with the environment for their survival, and while all believe in their own continuity, all are doomed to fall.
Saint posted:Saint posted:The development of art goes hand in hand if not powered by the development of humanity.
Not only does it reflect our need for expression but also reflects our social circumstances.
Further on it reveals our new understanding of mechanics through perspective and theoretical developments from God fearing to self awareness.
They are inextricably intertwined
I don't like the jelly in trifle
WHAT !!!!!
It has to be there, it's the law.
El Loro posted:Civilisations, a 9 part series, starts on BBC2 at 21.00. It looks at how art has played a key role in the development of civilisations over thousands of years.
The first film by Simon Schama looks at the formative role art and the creative imagination have played in the forging of humanity itself.
The film opens with Simon's passionate endorsement of the creativespirit in humanity and the way in which art can help to forge the civilised life. Civilisation may be impossible to define, but its opposite - evidenced throughout history in the human urge to destroy - is all too evident whenever and wherever it erupts. Simon Schama explores the remote origins of human creativity with the first known marks made some 80,000 years ago in South African caves - marks which were not dictated merely by humanity's physical needs. He marvels at the later cave works - shapes of hands, in red stencils on the walls of caves, and at the paintings of bison and bulls, and Stone Age carvings.
As time passes, the elements of civilisation are assembled - written language, codes of law, and expressions of warrior power forged in metals. And humanity begins to produce art not just for ritual, as Simon discovers in Minoan civilisation. But how do such cultures arise and how do they fall? Simon travels to the civilisations of Petra in the Middle East and the Maya in Central America to explore those questions. He finds that ultimately civilisations depend on humanity's relationship with the environment for their survival, and while all believe in their own continuity, all are doomed to fall.
Yes, I'm going to try and catch it having seen it advertised. I do like Simon Schama's work. 
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Saint posted:Saint posted:The development of art goes hand in hand if not powered by the development of humanity.
Not only does it reflect our need for expression but also reflects our social circumstances.
Further on it reveals our new understanding of mechanics through perspective and theoretical developments from God fearing to self awareness.
They are inextricably intertwined
I don't like the jelly in trifle
It has to be there, it's the law.
I concour
It's a holder for the sponge - thus a necessity
I'll happily accept its presence as I willingly work my way around it to get to that fluffy and sherry sodden delight
Summer fruits - yum
El Loro posted:Civilisations, a 9 part series, starts on BBC2 at 21.00. It looks at how art has played a key role in the development of civilisations over thousands of years.
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I'll be honest: I just assumed this was a thread about "Civilisations"! 
It's quite surreal seeing those artifacts and artworks being destroyed, almost as though it's just a work of filmed fiction. But it's not.
I donât like fruit or sherry in my trifle
Yogi19 posted:I donât like fruit or sherry in my trifle
Fruit - no - we invented sponge so no fruit
Sherry - yes - just yes - it gives us the excuse to get tipsy
Jelly and custard with cream on top is just that......
Without the soft landing of sponge and juicy fruit it is just a piffle and not a TRIFLE!
(The sherry I can do without)
"Trifle in English cuisine is a dessert made with fruit, a thin layer of sponge fingers soaked in sherry or another fortified wine, and custard. It can be topped with whipped cream."
Quite a provocative statement
Baz posted:Yogi19 posted:I donât like fruit or sherry in my trifle
I donât like trifle fully stop ...itâs got custard on it
< < < < GET OUT NOW
Saint posted:Yogi19 posted:I donât like fruit or sherry in my trifle
Fruit - no - we invented sponge so no fruit
Sherry - yes - just yes - it gives us the excuse to get tipsy
I donât like the taste of sherry 
Baz posted:Yogi19 posted:I donât like fruit or sherry in my trifle
I donât like trifle fully stop ...itâs got custard on it
Syd posted:Jelly and custard with cream on top is just that......
Without the soft landing of sponge and juicy fruit it is just a piffle and not a TRIFLE!
(The sherry I can do without)
I like the jelly, sponge, custard and cream but you can keep the fruit and sherry.
Cherries in trifle?
Nay, nay ... thrice nay !!!
velvet donkey posted:Humanity's for brownie points these days.
Humanity is our strength and even that's up for sale
Humans - rubbish animals
I love that trifle has taken over an initially serious(ish) thread
...speaking of which I have some in the fridge...
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I love that trifle has taken over an initially serious(ish) thread
...speaking of which I have some in the fridge...
Hope it doesnât have fruit or sherry in it
Yogi19 posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I love that trifle has taken over an initially serious(ish) thread
...speaking of which I have some in the fridge...
Strawberry, no sherry.
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Yogi19 posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I love that trifle has taken over an initially serious(ish) thread
...speaking of which I have some in the fridge...
Strawberry, no sherry.
Just pour me the sherry ...throw the rest in the bin ðĪĢðĪĢðĪĢ
velvet donkey posted:EC's a bot.
He lives in Fulham and he is a spy.
Baz posted:Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:EC's a bot.
He lives in Fulham and he is a spy.
Pwhoarrrrrrrrrrr
I lubs Adam from Spooks, aka Rupert Perry Jones
Yogi19 posted:Baz posted:Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:EC's a bot.
He lives in Fulham and he is a spy.
Pwhoarrrrrrrrrrr
I lubs EC from Spooks, aka Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Yogi19 posted:Baz posted:Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:EC's a bot.
He lives in Fulham and he is a spy.
Pwhoarrrrrrrrrrr
I lubs EC from Spooks, aka Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
ROFL 
velvet donkey posted:I'm loggin off noo.
Why?
velvet donkey posted:Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:I'm loggin off noo.
Cos the terrible twins fancy Rupert
Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:I'm loggin off noo.
Cos the terrible twins fancy Rupert
We can always make room
velvet donkey posted:Yogi19 posted:Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:I'm loggin off noo.
Cos the terrible twins fancy Rupert
Make room?
You two are finished
velvet donkey posted:Yogi19 posted:Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:I'm loggin off noo.
Cos the terrible twins fancy Rupert
Make room?
You two are finished
Rofl