It's up to Oldham. Obviously he is at Division One level and would be a great addition to any team in that group or lower. It doesn't affect the rest of us.
Meanwhile we hope that we've brought up our sons and grandsons not to take advantage of incapable women.

Leslie Grantham was employed by the BBC

lots of snippets floating around today as the proposed signing comes to attention

I dont know enough about him to comment but did grab this link to have a read when I had the time

 

although titled as his web site it has been put together by others - not him

 

 http://www.chedevans.com/

 

All but one of my Sheffield United chums did not want him back at Bramall Lane, the females in that number really don't like the guy or the fact he seems to show no remorse for his actions and is in fact contesting his conviction.

 

I personally would not want him at my club, but it's up to other clubs to decide. I would suspect there is a chairman out there who will ignore the fans and sign him up sooner or later.

 

I understand because of his conviction he can't ply his trade abroad.

 

 

Terribly disappointing, I saw him alongside Prince Andrew in a 4-4-2 system.

Controversial there Joe 

I see another of Oldhams sponsors has said they will stand by Oldham if they sign Evans or not 

Ten clubs in League One and League Two have ruled out the possibility of signing convicted rapist Ched Evans.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30698618

 

Here are their replies.

League One

Barnsley: No comment.

 

Bradford City: No response.

 

Bristol City: This isn't something we really want to be dragged into. No comment.

 

Chesterfield: Please note that we wouldn't sign him.

 

Colchester: No response.

 

Coventry City: We would never be interested in signing Ched Evans.

 

Crawley: We have not been offered the chance to sign Ched Evans and he is definitely not a player we would be interested in signing.

 

Crewe: That is something we do not wish to comment on or answer any hypothetical questions on.

 

Doncaster: No response.

 

Fleetwood: We do not want to comment. We would prefer to stay away from the entire subject.

 

Gillingham: Our chairman has not been offered the opportunity to trial or sign the player, therefore he has not considered it.

 

Leyton Orient: No response.

 

MK Dons: Ched Evans is not part of our plans.

 

Notts County: Ched Evans is not someone the directors have discussed with the manager and he is not someone that the club are considering. There has been no contact with Ched Evans or his advisors.

 

Oldham Athletic: Are considering offering Evans a contract.

 

Peterborough United: We are not interested in Ched Evans, full stop.

 

Port Vale: As has been confirmed by chairman Norman Smurthwaite, the club will not be signing Ched Evans.

 

Preston: No comment.

 

Rochdale: No response.

 

Scunthorpe United: It is something we have not thought about, so no comment.

 

Sheffield United: Previously considered allowing Evans to train with them. Retracted their offer following protests from, amongst others, sponsors and Olympic champion Jessica Ennis-Hill.

 

Swindon Town: The club would not like to comment on this.

 

Walsall: It is the club's policy not to divulge private and confidential information regarding such matters. We do not publicly discuss which players we have or haven't been offered by the numerous football agents contacting Walsall FC throughout a season and particularly during a transfer window.

 

Yeovil Town: No. We have not been contacted by anybody in relation to Ched Evans. The second question is purely academic.

League Two

Accrington Stanley: No response.

 

AFC Wimbledon: We're not responding to this.

 

Burton Albion: No response.

 

Bury: We never comment on players that are not contracted to us, nor do we speculate on players that may or may not be coming to us.

 

Cambridge United: We won't be commenting on this matter.

 

Carlisle United: No response.

 

Cheltenham: The manager does not want to comment. Ched Evans has not been offered to the club.

 

Dagenham and Redbridge: Dagenham & Redbridge has not been offered the opportunity to sign or give a trial to Ched Evans. Therefore there has been no discussion at board level regarding this matter.

 

Exeter City: No response.

 

Hartlepool United: (Statement released at the weekend) Hartlepool United do not intend signing Ched Evans and, for the avoidance of doubt, will not be doing so, irrespective of his obvious ability as a football player.

 

Luton Town: Nobody has contacted us with regard to Ched Evans and we wouldn't entertain the thought if they did.

 

Mansfield Town: The club does not comment on speculative stories such as this.

 

Morecambe: Morecambe have never been contacted in any respect about Ched Evans. As such there has never been any need or inclination to discuss said person in connection with this football club.

 

Newport County: We will not be answering any of the questions.

 

Northampton Town: We haven't been offered the opportunity to sign or give a trial to Ched Evans. It is not something the club have considered.

 

Oxford United: All player recruitment is conducted in private and the club does not comment publicly on players we have been offered, either on trial or permanent basis.

 

Plymouth Argyle: No comment.

 

Portsmouth: Portsmouth do not wish to comment on this issue.

 

Shrewsbury Town: No response.

 

Southend: There has been no suggestion he has been offered to us. Other than that, no comment.

 

Stevenage: No we haven't (been offered the chance to sign him or offered a trial). Our regular stance is never to comment on potential signings, targets etc anyway so we won't be making any further comment.

 

Tranmere Rovers: The club will not be commenting on the matter.

 

Wycombe Wanderers: I can confirm that we have not been approached by anyone representing the player in relation to any transfer activity. We would prefer not to comment on the likelihood of us taking him on if the opportunity arose.

 

York City: Our chairman has been quoted as saying that signing him would not be an option.

 

He's scum.

Has he signed for Leeds then?

When he was on loan at Norwich around six years ago he was the star of that side.  Football fans are notorious for dropping their usual morals when it suits.  To me, the short term success of my club is not cause for me to disregard my morals.

 

If Norwich were in the conference I'd still not want him playing for the club for free.  I think having a player (who remains unrepentant) like that on the books, spits in the face of female fans.  Jessica Ennis-Hill was right making her stand at Sheff United. 

I've been totally fascinated by the last 24 hours worth of Facebook musings on this subject. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been surprised by the sexist nature of some of the comments by baffled commentators. Maybe it's because my team have a renowned extremely large percentage of female fans, but the rôle model argument doesn't wash.

Touch wood, but neither I, my son, nor my Grandsons, have raped, assaulted, caused death by dangerous driving, or used racist or homophobic language in spite of the tremendous provocation by certain footballers. Neither have Mrs Jer and her friends, or their daughters been encouraged to get so blotto as to have no idea whom, or how many sexual partners they have had in a single night.

We must educate our lads to have respect for females, and also encourage young females to protect each other. Romance and excess alcohol don't mix.

Of course in my day one wouldn't expect ones tops until the third date, and girls were encouraged to "keep yer hand on yer ha'penny"

the link Mrs H posted was quite interesting - I'm sure he's not that nice a bloke, but whether he's actually a rapist or not, I'm not sure about.   From what I read, nobody, the 'victim' included has actually said he was and I'm not quite sure how he was convicted.   I stand to be corrected on the legalties though, although I pretty much echo most of Joe's opinions on the matter. 

 

As for whether he should be allowed to play football again.. i guess he should, done his time (even if he still believes he was wrongly convicted) but commercially speaking I don't see why any team would be daft enough to take him on given the weight of public opinion on the subject.

 

 

It's time some blokes or 0therwise stood up and admitted they are scum taking advantaged of "out of it females " as if ..it's okay

I knew nothing about the case until I saw this thread a couple of days ago.

After reading the link MrsH posted, I read more online and have come to the same conclusion as Kaffs^^^.

Like I say.. I think he's probably not a nice bloke, but I think it's a fine line.  I hate myself for saying it, but just because she can't remember it doesn't mean she didn't consent, and more importantly, that she wouldn't have consented sober.  From the things I've read, she wasn't exactly incoherent  - she managed to send a perfectly spelled and capitalised text for example - I can't even do that sober most of the time.

Sky sources saying him and Oldham have agreed personal terms. 

Its a difficult one  Mike Tyson seemed to get on with things after his case.

The answer is no, he should not be signed.  Gives out all the wrong signals as to what is acceptable.  Should he rehabilitate through getting a normal job?  Yes however not a privileged one where he will be in the public eye as a role model for all his young fans.

 

If a club signs him up so soon after this conviction it will put me off this club and make me question the decision makers' sense of morality.

Oldham Athletic have decided against signing convicted rapist Ched Evans following threats to the club's "staff and their families".

A club director told BBC sports editor Dan Roan that a staff member was informed a named relative would be raped if the deal went ahead.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727729

 

he's also issued an apology for the effect 'the events of that night' have had on some people.   He still denies rape though.   The more I read, the more I'm on his side.

I have to agree with you.

 Vile!

I don't think he should be signed by anyone, he is a public figure who whether we like it or not can influence young minds.  I've seen tweets from young lads when talking about girls are saying "I'd Ched Evans her" 

 

The fact of the matter is, he booked a hotel room with the sole intention that him and his scumbag mates would take a girl back there for their own entertainment.  When McDonald had secured their prize and got her back to the hotel he texted Evans to tell him he had 'a bird' and Evans went running to the hotel to have his fun.

 

He isn't sorry for what he did, in my opinion, in his stupidly tiny mind he thinks he could not possibly have raped her because he didn't jump out from behind a bush and accost her.  

 

But isn't it funny how only now when he is struggling to get a job that he suddenly issues this apology.  

My gut instinct is to agree with you - but that's my generation.    However, having seen girls like the ones on Geordie Shore (and in RL, not just on the telly) I do struggle to think that just because she's female and she was pissed, that she was raped.     Even she didn't claim that - have you read the link Mrs H posted?    If you ask to go back to a hotel room with someone you've met a couple of hours ago and say to their mate 'Go on l*** m* o**'   - I'm sorry, but I just don't see her as someone taken advantage of.   As I say, it goes against everything I want to feel, but it's the way I see it.

and his apology isn't for 'raping' her - it was for the way it made people feel.   I still think I'd not want anything to do with someone who'd do what they did (even if she was consenting) but that's a different issue.      

 

I also don't understand how the whole prosecution case was based on the fact that they admitted (unprompted) having sex with her  - and because she was drunk the legal system call it rape - but only he was charged with rape and his mate who also had sex with her was acquitted?  

I think the most important thing is that he hasn't done his time for his conviction yet. He got 5 yrs and is out on licence only. .if he commits another offence he'd be straight back in..

 

Let him do some charity work training young kids in hard up areas for free and he can reapply to the big leagues in a couple of yrs time when his sentence is complete and he is no longer on Licence.. if they want him then is another thing . .if they don't hard luck. .may stop some of the other thugs  overpaid footballers thinking it is ok going around shagging any old bint that offers  themselves to them, or is hanging around them cos they are splashing the dosh. . drunk or not..

 

I don't know why he was found guilty and others weren't, however he was found guilty...  having sex with someone who was out of it and therefore unable to give informed consent is rape under the law I believe

and if you read the link you have to question how 'out of it' she was.   I think I'd remember whether I was having sex before I'd remember I'd left a pizza on the pavement...

The BBC employed a convicted murderer

He became a household name

He was 'hero worshipped' for years

He was never vilified like Ched Evans

 

Remember Dirty Den in East Enders?

 

 

I have to say that the threats against the staff at Oldham are disgusting. To threaten to rape someone is abhorrent.

 

Living and working in the city where Ched Evans plied his trade, I find very few people who have any sympathy for him, even amongst fans of the club he played for. Evans really needed to show remorse. This is now at a point where you can't turn on a TV, radio or pick up a paper without reading about it. He needs to lay low and consider his future out of the media spotlight to have any chance of playing again.

 

I don't understand this ^^^^. Evans is still protesting his innocence, so he is hardly likely to show remose for something he states he did not do.

He has gone part the way there by saying he was sorry for the effects. That should have been said day one whether he was going to contest the conviction or not.

 

It is quite interesting how this has really got under the skin of the GBP, yet the GBP seem to be very selective about the people in the public eye who they "go for".

 

There is one person in this who seems to be getting no sympathy and that is his girlfriend who he has cheated on.

The way I see it is, if anyone employs him it's condoning rape. He's out pending an appeal for which he should wait for the result of.

 

If he didn't do it, it's a mistrial surely and we go from there?

 

Only my opinion though 

 

Having said that, we used to get people through the doors (training company that helped get people into jobs) that couldn't be around minors 

It certainly is. 

His girlfriend is fine!

...and what happens to rehabilitation? If he was a builder or a carpet fitter the system would make it it's business to get him a job and back into society but because he has a higher profile he's not allowed to go back to his job.

You gotta love the irony tho....someone is so disgusted that a convicted rapist might have been signed by the club that they threatened rape on a person working at the club.

 

I used to think this country gave people who made mistakes in their lives a second chance, but the way in which this guy (who still protests his innocence when it would be easier to just leave it alone) is hounded out of his profession is hideous to witness.

 

What job is he allowed to do that the public wouldn't be upset by?

Good point. 

But he was convicted, and as we know the courts in this country never make mistakes, so he must be guilty and is not allowed to protest his innocence.