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Originally Posted by Carnelian:

Wasn't there a law passed sometime during early 70s that every entertainer had to include in their routine Des O'Connor's singing, Dolly Parton's cleavage, Cyril Smith being fat and British Rail/BBC canteen sandwiches?

 

Personally, I've never found Eric and Ern funny at all.

Everyone to their own though 

FM
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:

Wasn't there a law passed sometime during early 70s that every entertainer had to include in their routine Des O'Connor's singing, Dolly Parton's cleavage, Cyril Smith being fat and British Rail/BBC canteen sandwiches?

 

Personally, I've never found Eric and Ern funny at all.

Everyone to their own though 

Absolutely!  But they never were funny and their comedy just relies on all the same jokes that all the other comedians were doing at the time. 

 

I recall those boring Des O'Conor/BBC canteen jokes doing the rounds until the mid 80s.  Say what you like about Ben Elton and his lot of 'alternative to being funny' comedians, but they replaced a lot of very tiresome acts.

 

I preferred the Two Ronnies, not that their comedy has aged very well either!

Carnelian
Originally Posted by Sprout:

See....Ben Elton, I could never get away with. Not only him but the other so called 'alternative' comedians either. I like something that gives me a good belly laugh and he/they weren't it 

Even though a lot of it wasn't funny, I remember the alternative comedians (back in the day) giving me more belly laughs than any of the old school comedians ever did. 

 

A lot of the alternative comedy hasn't aged well and a lot of alternative comedians haven't been funny for years.  Lenny Henry and French and Saunders being the worst IMO. 

 

I still say that stupid in-jokes about the BBC canteen and Des O'Connor's singing was shite comedy and not in the least bit funny.  Morecambe & Wise were one of the worst offenders for that.

Carnelian
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by Sprout:

See....Ben Elton, I could never get away with. Not only him but the other so called 'alternative' comedians either. I like something that gives me a good belly laugh and he/they weren't it 

Even though a lot of it wasn't funny, I remember the alternative comedians (back in the day) giving me more belly laughs than any of the old school comedians ever did. 

 

A lot of the alternative comedy hasn't aged well and a lot of alternative comedians haven't been funny for years.  Lenny Henry and French and Saunders being the worst IMO. 

 

I still say that stupid in-jokes about the BBC canteen and Des O'Connor's singing was shite comedy and not in the least bit funny.  Morecambe & Wise were one of the worst offenders for that.

Again.........everyone to their own 

FM

One of my favourite lines is from the Andrew Preview sketch.

"I'm playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order".

The breakfast sketch is classic too.

 

I loved Eric Morecambe (Ernie a little less).  Ronnie Barker, a genius.

 

Watch the clips of his final live appearance with Stan Stennett - it's humourous but never unkind.  And that's where M&W and the Two Ronnies differ from the alternative comedians.... they were gentle.  

 

And besides, comedy/comedians are of their time so it's bound to follow that very few seem quite as funny when you look back.

Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:

One of my favourite lines is from the Andrew Preview sketch.

"I'm playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order".

The breakfast sketch is classic too.

 

I loved Eric Morecambe (Ernie a little less).  Ronnie Barker, a genius.

 

Watch the clips of his final live appearance with Stan Stennett - it's humourous but never unkind.  And that's where M&W and the Two Ronnies differ from the alternative comedians.... they were gentle.  

 

And besides, comedy/comedians are of their time so it's bound to follow that very few seem quite as funny when you look back.

Brilliant! 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:

One of my favourite lines is from the Andrew Preview sketch.

"I'm playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order".

The breakfast sketch is classic too.

 

I loved Eric Morecambe (Ernie a little less).  Ronnie Barker, a genius.

 

Watch the clips of his final live appearance with Stan Stennett - it's humourous but never unkind.  And that's where M&W and the Two Ronnies differ from the alternative comedians.... they were gentle.  

 

And besides, comedy/comedians are of their time so it's bound to follow that very few seem quite as funny when you look back.

Brilliant! 

 

I would say there's been thousands of moments of comedy that are more funnier than the "Breakfast Sketch" or "Fork Handles". 

 

I know I'm on dodgy ground here because millions really do love Morcambe and Wise but what annoys me about Morecambe and Wise is that there's always someone telling me, "oh you must like this or you haven't got a sense of humour".  Well that's subjective, and I don't like being told why something's funny - if it makes me laugh, then it's funny - if it doesn't, it isn't - to me. 

 

Some people may be able to watch the Breakfast Sketch endlessly and find it hilarious every time, but not me, I'm not a big fan of slapstick anyway.

 

I probably did find the Breakfast Sketch very funny when it was first aired but 'funny' to me is diminishing returns.  Knowing the punchline spoils the joke, particularly with visual humour! 

 

Try playing your favourite song on continuous repeat and see how long it takes you to begin to hate it!

 

 

 

Carnelian
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by Sprout:

See....Ben Elton, I could never get away with. Not only him but the other so called 'alternative' comedians either. I like something that gives me a good belly laugh and he/they weren't it 

Even though a lot of it wasn't funny, I remember the alternative comedians (back in the day) giving me more belly laughs than any of the old school comedians ever did. 

 

A lot of the alternative comedy hasn't aged well and a lot of alternative comedians haven't been funny for years.  Lenny Henry and French and Saunders being the worst IMO. 

 

I still say that stupid in-jokes about the BBC canteen and Des O'Connor's singing was shite comedy and not in the least bit funny.  Morecambe & Wise were one of the worst offenders for that.

it was the way they told them !  

 

It wasn't so much the material with Morecambe and Wise ,  the interaction between the pair was funny. The unscripted bits were probably funniest . They still crack me up ( unlike Ben Elton, whose material was probably good, but delivered a bit too much smug right-on git - loved him at the time but kind of cringe watching the stuff back now)

FM

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