She doesn't annoy me as much as Bea and Charlie that's for sure

Lisa has pulled her horns right in. She wouldn't have entertained Bea for a second in the early days.

Lisa is on to her .

i cant like lisa im afraid, im not even gonna give her the benifit of the doubt, shes spiteful

Yeah, it's kind of an uncomfortable feeling, but I'm slightly warming to her.

Me too...

I would rather see Lisa in the final than Charlie or Bea....

I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

Lisa's never nominated him before, I think Bea was barking up the wrong tree there. She's weaker because she's fighting on two fronts, Charlie and Siavash. Unfortunately, she's targeted the wrong people. IMHO.

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Originally posted by Jenny:
Yeah, it's kind of an uncomfortable feeling, but I'm slightly warming to her.

Me too, and I think others here are too, who'd have thought that a few weeks ago lol

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

I still can't forgive her over Freddie because I think she could have prevented the mass bullying in the beginning, but she's more palatable than Bea.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

I still can't forgive her over Freddie because I think she could have prevented the mass bullying in the beginning, but she's more palatable than Bea.

Different types of bullying. Lisa was very much the schemer, working behind the scenes. Bea was an in-your-face bully who single handedly crushed Freddie's spirit.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
It would have been so easy for Lisa to start bitching about Siavash with Bea at the bus stop but instead she said how nice it was of Siavash to share his prize with everyone.

That's the kind of thing you are supposed to say to look good. She still supports charlie.

And some people are questioning whether the last word Siavash got (to beat Marcus and Lisa) was actually within the time limit as well.

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Originally posted by Justafriend:
i cant like lisa im afraid, im not even gonna give her the benifit of the doubt, shes spiteful

same here, her early weeks are uppermost in my mind

I am finding that Lisa is being very diplomatic of late, still cant forgive her for her treatment to Freddie though.

I missed the first f ew nights of BB and can't actually see where the real hatred of Lisa is coming from TBH. She certainly isn't one of my faves but .............I really dont hate her.

I think it's the case whereby people make an initial decision and stick to it come what may.

I've never seen her as that bad.

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Originally posted by Mary Seacole:
I am finding that Lisa is being very diplomatic of late, still cant forgive her for her treatment to Freddie though.

Lisa is crafty, she knows how to survive. She was likeable in the H/L because she knows better not to bitch with Bea. I do think she is fond of Siavash though. Like you though I still can't forget her treatment of Freddy.

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:

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Originally posted by Mary Seacole:
I am finding that Lisa is being very diplomatic of late, still cant forgive her for her treatment to Freddie though.

Lisa is crafty, she knows how to survive. She was likeable in the H/L because she knows better not to bitch with Bea. I do think she is fond of Siavash though. Like you though I still can't forget her treatment of Freddy.

I've obviously missed something. What did she do to Freddie? I know she made no secret of disliking him as he did her .................it happens. But what did she do?

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

I still can't forgive her over Freddie because I think she could have prevented the mass bullying in the beginning, but she's more palatable than Bea.

Different types of bullying. Lisa was very much the schemer, working behind the scenes. Bea was an in-your-face bully who single handedly crushed Freddie's spirit.

That's what I meant spider, Lisa could have used that influence to stop it, but she just couldn't help her dislike.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

I still can't forgive her over Freddie because I think she could have prevented the mass bullying in the beginning, but she's more palatable than Bea.

I know - I have to keep reminding myself of how much I hated her in the beginning. She's been so quiet for so long now, I'm forgetting!

Just look at the kind of people around Lisa and the level of intelligence, the unhidden bitchiness and whole clique-like mentality they have had. Unless you suck up to Lisa you aren't a member. Charlie found a welcome home there, as did Sophie and now David has as well.

lisa had the wink from kenny that she was unpopular and she is now playing the game - she was central to freddies''s bullying in the first weeks.

she is also glad freddie has gone - she looks better because all the horrendous ones (apart from marcus and siavash )are left

Lisa isn't the demon she's been painted, even Freddie described her as genuine in his newspaper interview.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

I still can't forgive her over Freddie because I think she could have prevented the mass bullying in the beginning, but she's more palatable than Bea.

Different types of bullying. Lisa was very much the schemer, working behind the scenes. Bea was an in-your-face bully who single handedly crushed Freddie's spirit.

That's what I meant spider, Lisa could have used that influence to stop it, but she just couldn't help her dislike.

That's because she disliked him .....just as he disliked Lisa and did his best to influence others to his way of thinking. Didn't he? Tell me I'm wrong?

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

I still can't forgive her over Freddie because I think she could have prevented the mass bullying in the beginning, but she's more palatable than Bea.

Different types of bullying. Lisa was very much the schemer, working behind the scenes. Bea was an in-your-face bully who single handedly crushed Freddie's spirit.

That's what I meant spider, Lisa could have used that influence to stop it, but she just couldn't help her dislike.

That's because she disliked him .....just as he disliked Lisa and did his best to influence others to his way of thinking. Didn't he? Tell me I'm wrong?

it was so different in the early days when she had everyone behind her, she bullied abused and took the p outta him along with the others.
she dont like her own medicine just like bea dont.
he gave her some of her own treatment he finally got the balls to do it and was crucified for it.
you only take so much bullying before you retaliate.
just my opinion. and he didnt do anything like she did to him.
i dont like her my opinion just like you dont like freddie sorry.

I always thought Lisa was ok. She was gobby at the start and I let my opinion of her be swayed by what was said here.
I also think she had a chip on her shoulder in the first few weeks and let herself be dragged down by it. She was looking out for her 'chicks' and still does.
She's a very astute girl and has learned from her mistakes.
Watch her eyes. They're a dead give away. She has beautiful eyes and they dance in her head while she listens to Bea pontificating about something or other. You just know Lisa doesn't believe a word she's saying.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
It would have been so easy for Lisa to start bitching about Siavash with Bea at the bus stop but instead she said how nice it was of Siavash to share his prize with everyone.

That's the kind of thing you are supposed to say to look good. She still supports charlie.

And some people are questioning whether the last word Siavash got (to beat Marcus and Lisa) was actually within the time limit as well.

Got it in one.

Surely all it boils down to is that Lisa rallied her troops quicker than Freddie.

I really and truly am not a Lisa fan but .........she isn't the devil she's made out to be IMO.

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:
Surely all it boils down to is that Lisa rallied her troops quicker than Freddie.

I really and truly am not a Lisa fan but .........she isn't the devil she's made out to be IMO.

and the reason kriss karly went is because the public couldnt get to lisa she would have been long gone if she had been up for eviction because of her treatment of freddie.
of course bea makes her look like a saint, cos bea is mental the only bonus is lisa int.

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

I still can't forgive her over Freddie because I think she could have prevented the mass bullying in the beginning, but she's more palatable than Bea.

Different types of bullying. Lisa was very much the schemer, working behind the scenes. Bea was an in-your-face bully who single handedly crushed Freddie's spirit.

That's what I meant spider, Lisa could have used that influence to stop it, but she just couldn't help her dislike.

That's because she disliked him .....just as he disliked Lisa and did his best to influence others to his way of thinking. Didn't he? Tell me I'm wrong?

I remember her getting right into Freddies face at one point and shouting and also her very dismissive attitude at times when telling him to shut up..But others have behaved equally bad at times..I am indifferent to the woman plus I think her age and experiences in life have made her who she is..she is who she is.

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:

That's because she disliked him .....just as he disliked Lisa and did his best to influence others to his way of thinking. Didn't he? Tell me I'm wrong?

Yes I know they didn't like each other, people are free to like or dislike whoever they want.

Did you read my post? To be a member of Lisa's group you have to suck up to her. Look at the sheep who are in it - Charlie, Sophie, David. It's always been a clique in which you have to defer to the leader.

I will wait until the noms are out,I hope she noms Bea .

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Originally posted by erinp:
I will wait until the noms are out,I hope she noms Bea .

id give her a few brownie points if she did erin

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
It would have been so easy for Lisa to start bitching about Siavash with Bea at the bus stop but instead she said how nice it was of Siavash to share his prize with everyone.

That's the kind of thing you are supposed to say to look good. She still supports charlie.

And some people are questioning whether the last word Siavash got (to beat Marcus and Lisa) was actually within the time limit as well.

I love Siavash. But that was not fair. I thought when I watched it that his last word was uttered AFTER the bell rang.

Another of the BB 'fix-up' jobs

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:

That's because she disliked him .....just as he disliked Lisa and did his best to influence others to his way of thinking. Didn't he? Tell me I'm wrong?

Yes I know they didn't like each other, people are free to like or dislike whoever they want.

Did you read my post? To be a member of Lisa's group you have to suck up to her. Look at the sheep who are in it - Charlie, Sophie, David. It's always been a clique in which you have to defer to the leader.

I hate to say this but compare the two groups. One sits at the smoking area talking about pubs and models.
The other sits analysing everything little thing that happens.
One group use the word bitching the other use the word negativity.

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Originally posted by Justafriend:

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I posted this in the highlights thread. Nobody helped me though... maybe they agree!

"Somebody help me! I actually think I saw a glimmer of humour and humanity in Lisa!"

I still can't forgive her over Freddie because I think she could have prevented the mass bullying in the beginning, but she's more palatable than Bea.

Different types of bullying. Lisa was very much the schemer, working behind the scenes. Bea was an in-your-face bully who single handedly crushed Freddie's spirit.

That's what I meant spider, Lisa could have used that influence to stop it, but she just couldn't help her dislike.

That's because she disliked him .....just as he disliked Lisa and did his best to influence others to his way of thinking. Didn't he? Tell me I'm wrong?

it was so different in the early days when she had everyone behind her, she bullied abused and took the p outta him along with the others.
she dont like her own medicine just like bea dont.
he gave her some of her own treatment he finally got the balls to do it and was crucified for it.
you only take so much bullying before you retaliate.
just my opinion. and he didnt do anything like she did to him.
i dont like her my opinion just like you dont like freddie sorry.

Thank you Justafriend,those where the word I was looking for.

dont think ive ever written anything that long on here Mary

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Originally posted by Tayto:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:

That's because she disliked him .....just as he disliked Lisa and did his best to influence others to his way of thinking. Didn't he? Tell me I'm wrong?

Yes I know they didn't like each other, people are free to like or dislike whoever they want.

Did you read my post? To be a member of Lisa's group you have to suck up to her. Look at the sheep who are in it - Charlie, Sophie, David. It's always been a clique in which you have to defer to the leader.

I hate to say this but compare the two groups. One sits at the smoking area talking about pubs and models.
The other sits analysing everything little thing that happens.
One group use the word bitching the other use the word negativity.

Yep ...............and what's you're point? there's really a fag paper between them isn't there? some live a harder life with all the knocks etc. that come from it ......some are more priviliged and philosiphise. Don't see your point reallt (not being funny) .........two very diverse groups IMO .........people are drawn to those they are similar to.

I haven't really been drawn to one side or another but you have drawn a class comparison there ......................I guess it's where you stand TBH.

Personally I can see/like both sides.