Was this a joke?

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Moomin

I don't think it was cos it's not April 1st, but I heard the Channel 5 headlines last night that Gino and one of the other contestants on IACGMOOH are going to be charged with animal cruelty, after catching a rat and cooking it in a risotto.
The argument is that it is not the kind of thing people would like to see on an entertainment programme.
Would this be the entertainment programme that features eating live creatures as a very popular (for the viewers anyway) bushtucker trial?
I don't understand.

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DemantoidMember

It's true, and about time.
I don't watch IAC for that very reason. Why is killing, eating or injuring small critters supposed to be entertaining? And why is it allowed in the first place? If I was in a genuine life-or-death situation, I'd eat whatever was available if my survival depended on it. But I wouldn't do it for telly ratings on some stupid show for has-beens.
Pity no-one in officialdom has reacted before now, but I suppose they don't consider biting live invertebrates in half to be cruel, because they're "only" bugs.

12/7/093:15 AM

Former Member

I heard this on the news alright. I don't watch I'm a Celeb so didn't see what happened, but I did hear some head of the RSPCA in Aus saying that there are rules about what you can do with animals in an entertainment programme.

12/7/093:16 AM

Former Member

Not only was it cruel, it sounds disgusting. Might skip lunch to-day!

12/7/093:29 AM

SazBombMember

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Pity no-one in officialdom has reacted before now, but I suppose they don't consider biting live invertebrates in half to be cruel, because they're "only" bugs.

I dont see how killing the rat is any worse than this, and the show has been doing it for years... and dropping loads of insects on people, some of which obviously get stepped on. The show is hardly an advert for animal welfare is it?

12/7/093:31 AM

MoominMember

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Temps 1033 Forum PostsToday at 11:16 AM (Edited: ) I heard this on the news alright. I don't watch I'm a Celeb so didn't see what happened, but I did hear some head of the RSPCA in Aus saying that there are rules about what you can do with animals in an entertainment programme.

I don't watch it either Temps - but that is my point - it's a programme that features that exact same past time as part of the programme, so there seems to be one law for the programme makers and a different one for the contestants.

12/7/093:32 AM

MoominMember

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dont see how killing the rat is any worse than this, and the show has been doing it for years... and dropping loads of insects on people, some of which obviously get stepped on. The show is hardly an advert for animal welfare is it?

Yep - that's the point I was trying to get across

12/7/093:33 AM

DemantoidMember

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No it isn't. Bliddy horrible and unnecessary all round, IMO. I don't see how killing that poor rat is any worse than biting a live bug in half, either. None of it should be allowed, it's cruel and stupid.

12/7/093:34 AM

ScottyMember 10 years

It`s cruel..biting the head off of live insects, eating them for the "fun" of a trial is WRONG!!

12/7/093:54 AM

PussMember

yup, thats entertainment

most useless programme since, err BB *runnnnns*

12/7/095:15 AM

DarthhoobMember

is reason i dont watch it...though my OH does

i spose they get away with the bugs by saying they dont have a backbone so dont feel pain...but i dont see it as much different. although i love rats so that upsets me on a more personal level. they use (very small) alligators etc too but tie their mouths closed so the poor celebs dont get hurt

. they even do somethint to spiders fangs to stop them biting. but nothing is done to stop these animals getting squashed,eaten or killed.

12/7/095:38 AM

DemantoidMember

They might not have backbones, but they still have nerves and I bet they feel it when some zeleb bites them in half. Horrible, horrible. Just because they can't squeal in agony, people seem to think it's all right.

12/7/095:49 AM

Former Member

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but they still have nerves and I bet they feel it when some zeleb bites them in half

that's exactly why I can't watch it...I'm so surprised it's allowed.

12/7/096:17 AM

DarthhoobMember

thats what i mean. they are probably able to use that as an excuse.....some law somewhere. for example i know live feeding is ok if you are feeding crickets to a lizard.....but feeding a live mouse to a snake is illegal. seems to be different laws for vertebrates and invertebrates

12/7/096:18 AM

cockney-chickMember

Reference Demantoid:

It's true, and about time. I don't watch IAC for that very reason. Why is killing, eating or injuring small critters supposed to be entertaining? And why is it allowed in the first place? If I was in a genuine life-or-death situation, I'd eat whatever was available if my survival depended on it. But I wouldn't do it for telly ratings on some stupid show for has-beens. Pity no-one in officialdom has reacted before now, but I suppose they don't consider biting live invertebrates in half to be cruel, because they're "only" bugs

Well said.

12/7/096:26 AM

Former Member

ohh i wonder what we can get hugh fernley whittinstal on

12/7/096:30 AM

slimfernMember VIP

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wonder what we can get hugh fernley whittinstal on

SCD ?........maybe!

12/7/097:08 AM

Rev. Dim DaleMember

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Gypsue

ohh i wonder what we can get hugh fernley whittinstal on

Assault with a deadly hairstyle?

12/7/0910:00 AM

slimfernMember VIP

I like his hair...

..........it's the face I aint too keen on!

12/7/0910:02 AM

Rev. Dim DaleMember

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slimfern

I like his hair.............it's the face I aint too keen on!

Ummm I just noticed his hair is a bit like mine lol!

12/7/0910:03 AM

slimfernMember VIP

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his hair is a bit like mine

How yoo doin??...........

12/7/0910:07 AM

Rev. Dim DaleMember

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slimfern

How yoo doin??...........

Not so bad thanks Fern, talking of Fern, she is looking good in this months Good Housekeeping so I noticed this morning. I'm just a bit shattered from work, I actually crashed out this afternoon

12/7/0910:11 AM

slimfernMember VIP

Awwww bless!
Which Fern we talking of...Ms Britton or Ms Cotton ??
I much prefer the first!...

.........the second one has very seperated nostrils dontcha think ?

12/7/0910:30 AM

Yellow RoseMember

I congratulate the journalist who alerted the Australian RSPCA, just wonder why it's taken so long for them to know what the Producers or whoever think they can get away with for the sake of their idea of "entertainment". The ITV lawyers are doing what they can to stop Gino and Stuart from having to go to Australia in February to answer the charges, I hope money doesn't buy off what should apply to everyone whether tv companies, celebs, or anyone else that thinks it's ok to harm or kill any living creature for their own pleasure. As for killing the rat because they were hungry - try telling that to those in Biafra and other areas of the world who really know what hunger and starvation is, they die because of it.

12/7/0911:06 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8398734.stm

I watched when Gino "Captured" this rat and held it up by the tail,it had a cream underbelly and a chocolate coloured back,and was rather plump.I thought immediately that it was a domesticated tame rat..A wild rat would have been lean,sinewy,and fighting like crazy,It would have bitten him..Hard!

12/7/0911:21 AM

DarthhoobMember

yeah, a chocolate/chocolate agouti berkshire

(name of that variety)

12/7/0912:31 PM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

I knew it Darth! Grr..

12/7/0912:35 PM

SazBombMember

I really dont think it was the slebs fault though... the producers should be the ones facing the charges, they put the rat in there

12/7/0912:52 PM

DarthhoobMember

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SazBomb online 2130 Forum Posts Today at 12:52 (Edited: ) I really dont think it was the slebs fault though... the producers should be the ones facing the charges, they put the rat in there

yep! and the breeders

12/7/091:03 PM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

YEP THE PRODUCERS ADMITTED THEY PUT TAME RATS IN THERE FOR "EFFECT" pAH!

12/7/091:05 PM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

Oops caps..

12/7/091:05 PM

DarthhoobMember

i've known that for years, it was obvious (well for me...being a rat owner lol). they wouldn't let a wild rat go anywhere near the celebs due to the health and safety etc. same goes for pretty much all the animals on the show. the area of the camp is sprayed apparently to get rid of all wildlife nearby before the celebs go in.

12/7/091:25 PM

SazBombMember

see, I prob wouldn't be able to tell the difference Hooby... obviously they couldn't either

12/7/091:40 PM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

Saz,that is why the show's producers should be accountable,rather than the "stars" .I don't know what they are told etc,I suspect they must have been told that this was not a feral, wild, flea ridden rodent etc and was safe to eat.

12/7/091:44 PM

jacksonbMember

janet street porter, a few years back, on the very same show, bashed a few eels with a rock , sliced 'em up and made a stew of them, no one said a word.

is it just mammals and insects we feel protective of?

12/7/092:17 PM

DarthhoobMember

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SazBomb online 2131 Forum Posts Today at 13:40 (Edited: ) see, I prob wouldn't be able to tell the difference Hooby... obviously they couldn't either

well not many would. i doubt Gino and Stuart really did either. a rat is wandering in the camp they probably think it's wild etc. esp as they choose the wild looking varieties to use in the show. the producers knew it to be different though.

mind you i have to ask why Gino though he needed to eat the rat? he had protein in the beans..he dind;t need flavour like he said (though i remember the arguement about salt cos of taste...but how does he know what rat tastes like? lol) was it to show off what a 'great' chef he was? or was it cos he missed his meat too much?

12/7/092:18 PM

Former Member

on survivor they regularly caught and ate rats - no one said anything about that

12/7/096:12 PM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

Said rats were chucked into the mix! No way would wild feral rats wander around etc!
Pah.

12/7/096:27 PM

DemantoidMember

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Well said! Those silly sods were hardly going to die of starvation, were they? And as others have said, it was a tame rat, so hardly a fair contest. Bet they felt like "real men" for slaughtering it. Poor little thing - it probably wandered in because it thought those two idiots would be friendly.

12/8/0912:43 AM

jacksonbMember

if we leave the emotion out of the argument for a minute, i know if i had a rat in my house, i'd call the pest control people in, who would either poison it, causing it to bleed internally or use a dog to dig it out. the end result would be a dead rat.
the reasons for slaying the rat would not matter to the rat, because it would still be dead.

12/8/091:05 AM

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