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Originally Posted by Ted O'Neill:

Do you have any interest in becoming a community moderator on this site? Moderators are unpaid volunteers who help to enforce rules and guidelines.  If you have interest, let us know by replying here.  We'll consider everyone, and may put things up to a vote.

 

To qualify as a moderator, you should:

 

1) Have an established record of good behavior on this site.

2) Be patient and able to keep things civil, while still enforcing the rules.

3) Enjoy helping others.

4) Be a regular participant on the site.

 

Thanks!

 

See, the way I read Ted's post, it's not asking us what we think of the idea, which is what most of the replies on here refer to!

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Avalon:

If this was a 'proper' job, I wonder how the job advert would be worded?

Ha Ha that would be interesting Avalon : Have you got the hide of a rhinoceros? Are you one of those people who, however well you do your job, can deal with some saying that you are carp at it?  Can you cope with the fact that, whatever you do and no matter how hard you try, you will always be accused of bias?

 

Come to think about it, there are lots of managerial jobs where that is implied in the person spec!

That would about sum up what's required, Super

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Ted O'Neill:

Do you have any interest in becoming a community moderator on this site? Moderators are unpaid volunteers who help to enforce rules and guidelines.  If you have interest, let us know by replying here.  We'll consider everyone, and may put things up to a vote.

 

To qualify as a moderator, you should:

 

1) Have an established record of good behavior on this site.

2) Be patient and able to keep things civil, while still enforcing the rules.

3) Enjoy helping others.

4) Be a regular participant on the site.

 

Thanks!

 

See, the way I read Ted's post, it's not asking us what we think of the idea, which is what most of the replies on here refer to!

From a business perspective I expect we're a cost with no benefit..... and it says a lot for them that they're still willing to give us house-room.  Asking us to make a contribution is not unreasonable.  

 

We maybe should be trying to be a bit more realistic, if we want the community to continue we might just have to accept this with good grace.  Social Strata have been more than good to us - but they owe us nothing so we could try to work with them.

 

Realistically I could accept this if I had to.  I don't use any other forums and if this one goes I can't imagine that it could be replaced for me.  I would really miss feeling part of the community and I couldn't start again elsewhere.  

 

There's no nutters left here - so this imaginary mod that everyone is wary of would be one of us, and is unlikely to be anything close to the worst case scenarios that we've been imagining.  And we survived the C4 Mods - so we could cope.....if it meant it was the only way to keep the forum.

 

Actually after reading this thread I can't imagine anyone volunteering - I wouldn't .... far too scary!  so it maybe the case that it's all hypothetical anyway.

Starfleet Admiral hoochie

Given this criteria on the person spec:

1) Have an established record of good behavior on this site.

4) Be a regular participant on the site.

it would seem that it's been determined that the community mod(s) should be people who have a fair bit of experience of this particular site. Presumably that means people who know some of the history/bad blood/friendship groups and are able to stand back from all of that and take an objective view?

FM
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:

True but i bet there is someone on here that wouldn't mind doing it if it mean't we could stay here, they maybe just don't want to say 

You could be right there Aimee, but, if that is the case they may already be struggling on the 'hide of a rhinoceros'  essential criteria in the person spec!

FM
Originally Posted by Avalon:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Avalon:

If this was a 'proper' job, I wonder how the job advert would be worded?

Ha Ha that would be interesting Avalon : Have you got the hide of a rhinoceros? Are you one of those people who, however well you do your job, can deal with some saying that you are carp at it?  Can you cope with the fact that, whatever you do and no matter how hard you try, you will always be accused of bias?

 

Come to think about it, there are lots of managerial jobs where that is implied in the person spec!

That would about sum up what's required, Super

Oh I forgot...needs to be prepared to work mostly evenings, w/es and b/hs!

FM
Originally Posted by Starfleet Admiral hoochie:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Ted O'Neill:

 

There's no nutters left here - so this imaginary mod that everyone is wary of would be one of us, and is unlikely to be anything close to the worst case scenarios that we've been imagining.  And we survived the C4 Mods - so we could cope.....if it meant it was the only way to keep the forum.

 

 

Much would depend on the power of the imaginary mod, Hoochie.  Would bannings and (re?)registrations be within their sole power for example.

 

ETA:   There should be more than 1 mod... they shouldn't be obviously old friends (old enemies would be better in fact), bannings should be like having someone committed.... it should require the sign off of at least two independent mods. 

Kaffs
Last edited by Kaffs

Personal opinion but I don't understand why there's so much fear/distrust of an FM being a Mod. A lot of what I've read seems to be concerns about some FM's being wary of an FM they've had a problem with in the past and think they'll picked on by them. A good Mod wouldn't do that, if they did then they shouldn't be a Mod. Surely what it comes down to is if Members don't post anything that causes an offence to others or the Forum in general they won't attract the attention of a Moderator. Maybe I'm the only one who sees it this way lol

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

Personal opinion but I don't understand why there's so much fear/distrust of an FM being a Mod. A lot of what I've read seems to be concerns about some FM's being wary of an FM they've had a problem with in the past and think they'll picked on by them. A good Mod wouldn't do that, if they did then they shouldn't be a Mod. Surely what it comes down to is if Members don't post anything that causes an offence to others or the Forum in general they won't attract the attention of a Moderator. Maybe I'm the only one who sees it this way lol

No, i see it that way as well 

Aimee
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

Personal opinion but I don't understand why there's so much fear/distrust of an FM being a Mod. A lot of what I've read seems to be concerns about some FM's being wary of an FM they've had a problem with in the past and think they'll picked on by them. A good Mod wouldn't do that, if they did then they shouldn't be a Mod. Surely what it comes down to is if Members don't post anything that causes an offence to others or the Forum in general they won't attract the attention of a Moderator. Maybe I'm the only one who sees it this way lol

No, i see it that way as well 

So that's two of us lol, so far?

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

Personal opinion but I don't understand why there's so much fear/distrust of an FM being a Mod. A lot of what I've read seems to be concerns about some FM's being wary of an FM they've had a problem with in the past and think they'll picked on by them. A good Mod wouldn't do that, if they did then they shouldn't be a Mod. Surely what it comes down to is if Members don't post anything that causes an offence to others or the Forum in general they won't attract the attention of a Moderator. Maybe I'm the only one who sees it this way lol

No, that's exactly how it should be - I've just seen so much divided opinion on this site, I'm willing to bet my last quid that someone, somewhere will disagree with a modding decision, and then the cries of bias will follow.    People disagree with some of Lori's modding decisions, I'm sure, but she's not a FM so they just shut up.  I'm not so sure that would be the case if it was a former FM.   I think my worries are more for the poor person that takes it on tbh.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

Personal opinion but I don't understand why there's so much fear/distrust of an FM being a Mod. A lot of what I've read seems to be concerns about some FM's being wary of an FM they've had a problem with in the past and think they'll picked on by them. A good Mod wouldn't do that, if they did then they shouldn't be a Mod. Surely what it comes down to is if Members don't post anything that causes an offence to others or the Forum in general they won't attract the attention of a Moderator. Maybe I'm the only one who sees it this way lol

You are right, what i was saying is the moderator would get flack for their decisions no matter what the situation.

 

Then again thinking about it isn't that the life of a mod anyway?

Jen-Star
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:

Whilst I'm not at all keen on the idea of FMs as mods, I expect that when we first came here that they were expecting the forum to be much busier than it has become, more reflective of the traffic on the C4 forum and therefore economically viable. I suspect that that is no longer the case and presumably the rationale behind Ted's suggestion, so, if people want it to continue, then maybe we can't dismiss the idea out of hand? 

I agree  surely there is someone here that most people get along with and would be fair to everyone

That would be good Aimee, I'm sure that there are plenty on here who could be fair if they were doing the 'job' although I'm not seeing too many volunteers so far! 

Given the sorts of replies we are seeing, would any volunteers want it known that they HAVE volunteered?....except Cagney, of course!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

The more posts I read, and the fact that Ted hasn't intervened to put our minds at rest over concerns we have, I think the sooner we address the fact that one of the FM will be required to moderate this form (or there will be no forum) the better.  Maybe we should set our minds to drawing up a shortlist and ultimately having a forum vote.  *Runs for her life*

Aquarius
Originally Posted by Aquarius:

The more posts I read, and the fact that Ted hasn't intervened to put our minds at rest over concerns we have, I think the sooner we address the fact that one of the FM will be required to moderate this form (or there will be no forum) the better.  Maybe we should set our minds to drawing up a shortlist and ultimately having a forum vote.  *Runs for her life*

As Scotty has posted, Ted is probably off for the weekend. It's quite possible that the reason why Ted has asked if anyone is prepared to act as a moderator is that outside Mondays to Fridays office hours in the States, any of the existing moderators are having to act as moderators in their own time.

El Loro
Originally Posted by Cagney:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
 

Given the sorts of replies we are seeing, would any volunteers want it known that they HAVE volunteered?....except Cagney, of course!

I'd be no good. I'd have to ban myself 

At least you'd know it was coming and would be prepared.

 

I take it the obligatory grovelling e-mail wouldn't work for you then?

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Cagney:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
 

Given the sorts of replies we are seeing, would any volunteers want it known that they HAVE volunteered?....except Cagney, of course!

I'd be no good. I'd have to ban myself 

At least you'd know it was coming and would be prepared.

 

I take it the obligatory grovelling e-mail wouldn't work for you then?

I never read my emails 

Cagney
Originally Posted by Jack O'Neil:

Sounds to me as though you don't need a mod more a committee.

 

Wonder what it is about you Brits that makes you so different?

 

 

I would volunteer but I don't have the necessary qualifications.

 

 

Dial up the gate quick!!!

I thought that you had volunteered James! So, the only two who did, you and Cags are now backing out! We're not doing very well here are we

FM
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