quote:Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:
I think the McCanns did it. Accidentally, but still.
I totally agree with you.
I totally agree with you.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:
Thanks for the link Blizzie. It's still unclear though. Tests of the twins hair that was taken by the Portuguese police was alleged to have tested positive for drugs, yet the McCanns had a private testing done and that shows up as clear.
Which result do we believe? And who took the hair samples for the second private testing? That in itself could be got over by taking a hair sample from hair that had already grown from the root before the holiday. Was the second private testing done under proper police forensic conditions?
Too many questions remain unanswered.
The Portuguese press reported that drugs were found, but the Portuguese Police didn't charge them with drugging their kids, so presumably the press reported it wrongly, or lied.
quote:Originally posted by PinkBabe1966:
On the other hand what about if it does come out that they did do something to Madeline, when the twins are older? How are the twins going to feel then?
IMO (and as most of you know I am not a parent, would love to be..but that's another story).
If the children were using the crÃĻche service, which were the same people as the babysitting service, then the children would know them and it would have been better than being left. I don't think personally I could relax if there was not a responsible adult that my children could call out too/get in touch with if there was a problem, so with at least 9 in the group, if they didn't feel the need for the babysitting, then surely one of the parents could have taken in turns at night to be near the children or even take the children to eat with them, Portuguese and Europeans in general have a different attitude, they would have welcomed the children into the bar and made a huge fuss of them
some of the children had been ill during the holiday and still had gone to the crÃĻche service, I'm pretty certain that mum's on here would not have done that.
I think we will know what happened eventually and it will come out in the most surprising way, after all the twins as they get older will have recollections, it could yet come out what happened from them as they get older.
From this link This is money
quote:The McCannsâ choice to leave their children at the flat and make regular checks is surprising given the alternatives. In their defence, they may have been expecting, as advertised in Mark Warner brochures, a âlistening serviceâ. Staff told us that the service had been discontinued because the apartments were too spread out. The resort, however, offered a baby-sitting service for 15 euros (ÂĢ10) an hour, which was staffed by a member of the daytime nursery teams, or a âdining out clubâ. This involved parents dropping off children at the crÃĻche where they would be supervised watching videos until they went to sleep. Parents would then return before 11.30 to scoop up their sleepy offspring.
I think the McCanns were the type of parents who thought that routine was very important for kids, especially sleep routines. They went out all together on the first evening and the kids did not enjoy being up late, so the parents decided to eat nearby and check on the kids regularly for the rest of the holiday.
Ironically, it could be the desire to be perfect parents that has now seen them branded as neglectful, or even worse, culpable in her possible death.
I don't think we should ever rely on the press to report the truth about anything. I'm not familiar with the Portuguese press but if they are anything like the British press then 'reports' should be taken with a pinch of salt...
One problem I have with this case was the immediate press coverage of the 'abduction'.
The Telegraph reported at midnight (online) about Madeleines disappearance. Sky news were reporting on it also. This was less than an hour after she supposedly was abducted.
Family and friends were being interviewed on breakfast TV reporting that Gerry claimed the window shutters had been forced and Madeleine had been abducted. Several claimed in their interviews that Gerry insisted the window had been the means of entry/exit because the doors were locked..
Yet we know that the doors were left unlocked and the window shutters were not tampered with.
Why would Gerry have told his family something that was so easily proved to be incorrect ?
The immediate press and media coverage was astonishing, So was the accusations that the Portuguese authorities were to blame for not finding Madeleine.
Personally, I don't think they harmed Madeleine physically, but I will also hold them responsible for putting her and her brother and sister in a situation that was clearly unsafe. They, as Doctors are more than aware of the dangers that children left alone could encounter.
One problem I have with this case was the immediate press coverage of the 'abduction'.
The Telegraph reported at midnight (online) about Madeleines disappearance. Sky news were reporting on it also. This was less than an hour after she supposedly was abducted.
Family and friends were being interviewed on breakfast TV reporting that Gerry claimed the window shutters had been forced and Madeleine had been abducted. Several claimed in their interviews that Gerry insisted the window had been the means of entry/exit because the doors were locked..
Yet we know that the doors were left unlocked and the window shutters were not tampered with.
Why would Gerry have told his family something that was so easily proved to be incorrect ?
The immediate press and media coverage was astonishing, So was the accusations that the Portuguese authorities were to blame for not finding Madeleine.
Personally, I don't think they harmed Madeleine physically, but I will also hold them responsible for putting her and her brother and sister in a situation that was clearly unsafe. They, as Doctors are more than aware of the dangers that children left alone could encounter.
quote:Originally posted by MysTerry:
I don't think we should ever rely on the press to report the truth about anything. I'm not familiar with the Portuguese press but if they are anything like the British press then 'reports' should be taken with a pinch of salt...
One problem I have with this case was the immediate press coverage of the 'abduction'.
The Telegraph reported at midnight (online) about Madeleines disappearance. Sky news were reporting on it also. This was less than an hour after she supposedly was abducted.
Family and friends were being interviewed on breakfast TV reporting that Gerry claimed the window shutters had been forced and Madeleine had been abducted. Several claimed in their interviews that Gerry insisted the window had been the means of entry/exit because the doors were locked..
Yet we know that the doors were left unlocked and the window shutters were not tampered with.
Why would Gerry have told his family something that was so easily proved to be incorrect ?
The immediate press and media coverage was astonishing, So was the accusations that the Portuguese authorities were to blame for not finding Madeleine.
Personally, I don't think they harmed Madeleine physically, but I will also hold them responsible for putting her and her brother and sister in a situation that was clearly unsafe. They, as Doctors are more than aware of the dangers that children left alone could encounter.
good post
i have never understood why they thought it was ok to leave 3 young children alone in a unlocked room
my daughter is a teenager and i still lock her in the house if i go out without her *she has her own key to get out with* 
and at 15 i still wouldn't leave her alone overnight 
Innocent until proven guilty.
They are guilty of leaving their children alone, but anything else is pure conjecture.
They are guilty of leaving their children alone, but anything else is pure conjecture.
I was out in Lisbon when the news broke.
I have to say that the British press were being commented on by the Portuguese authorities and citizen's from day 1.
The demands of the press and their sheer arrogance took the Portuguese by surprise - and they were, of course, offended. But there was never any doubt that the autorities would do their best; they had no intention of screwing up.
Unfortunately we have a media who don't like waiting. They also demand to know everything immediately regardless of whether it impedes police procedure. It was also evident that the GB press were pushing their weight around and not being particularly helpful in the early stages of the search.
As I said, I only know this from seeing first hand, both in Lisbon and on the Algarve. There was a lot of upset over erroneous reporting; Sky even said that Lisbon was immediately strewn with posters of the child and that the capital was in overdrive.
We never saw one poster and people went about their business in their usual manner.
I have to say that the British press were being commented on by the Portuguese authorities and citizen's from day 1.
The demands of the press and their sheer arrogance took the Portuguese by surprise - and they were, of course, offended. But there was never any doubt that the autorities would do their best; they had no intention of screwing up.
Unfortunately we have a media who don't like waiting. They also demand to know everything immediately regardless of whether it impedes police procedure. It was also evident that the GB press were pushing their weight around and not being particularly helpful in the early stages of the search.
As I said, I only know this from seeing first hand, both in Lisbon and on the Algarve. There was a lot of upset over erroneous reporting; Sky even said that Lisbon was immediately strewn with posters of the child and that the capital was in overdrive.
We never saw one poster and people went about their business in their usual manner.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by PinkBabe1966:
On the other hand what about if it does come out that they did do something to Madeline, when the twins are older? How are the twins going to feel then?
IMO (and as most of you know I am not a parent, would love to be..but that's another story).
If the children were using the crÃĻche service, which were the same people as the babysitting service, then the children would know them and it would have been better than being left. I don't think personally I could relax if there was not a responsible adult that my children could call out too/get in touch with if there was a problem, so with at least 9 in the group, if they didn't feel the need for the babysitting, then surely one of the parents could have taken in turns at night to be near the children or even take the children to eat with them, Portuguese and Europeans in general have a different attitude, they would have welcomed the children into the bar and made a huge fuss of them
some of the children had been ill during the holiday and still had gone to the crÃĻche service, I'm pretty certain that mum's on here would not have done that.
I think we will know what happened eventually and it will come out in the most surprising way, after all the twins as they get older will have recollections, it could yet come out what happened from them as they get older.
From this link This is moneyquote:The McCannsâ choice to leave their children at the flat and make regular checks is surprising given the alternatives. In their defence, they may have been expecting, as advertised in Mark Warner brochures, a âlistening serviceâ. Staff told us that the service had been discontinued because the apartments were too spread out. The resort, however, offered a baby-sitting service for 15 euros (ÂĢ10) an hour, which was staffed by a member of the daytime nursery teams, or a âdining out clubâ. This involved parents dropping off children at the crÃĻche where they would be supervised watching videos until they went to sleep. Parents would then return before 11.30 to scoop up their sleepy offspring.
I think the McCanns were the type of parents who thought that routine was very important for kids, especially sleep routines. They went out all together on the first evening and the kids did not enjoy being up late, so the parents decided to eat nearby and check on the kids regularly for the rest of the holiday.
Ironically, it could be the desire to be perfect parents that has now seen them branded as neglectful, or even worse, culpable in her possible death.
Well if the McCann's tried to keep their children in a routine, then surely it makes sense to eat earlier with the children and then if they wanted to be together in an group, to have brought a bottle of wine and sat on their terrace/balcony, rather in the same way we used to do when on holiday in Tenerife a few years back with the apartment doors closed too, but the children knew exactly where their parents were.
I'm sorry but something does not ring true about the whole story and parent or not, I still think they were at the very least very neglectful to the children.
quote:Originally posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
I was out in Lisbon when the news broke.
I have to say that the British press were being commented on by the Portuguese authorities and citizen's from day 1.
The demands of the press and their sheer arrogance took the Portuguese by surprise - and they were, of course, offended. But there was never any doubt that the autorities would do their best; they had no intention of screwing up.
Unfortunately we have a media who don't like waiting. They also demand to know everything immediately regardless of whether it impedes police procedure. It was also evident that the GB press were pushing their weight around and not being particularly helpful in the early stages of the search.
As I said, I only know this from seeing first hand, both in Lisbon and on the Algarve. There was a lot of upset over erroneous reporting; Sky even said that Lisbon was immediately strewn with posters of the child and that the capital was in overdrive.
We never saw one poster and people went about their business in their usual manner.
Somehow that doesn't surprise me about the British press, Sky especially.
quote:Originally posted by Jenny:
Innocent until proven guilty.
They are guilty of leaving their children alone, but anything else is pure conjecture.
I completely agree with you, however the McCanns invited the press in and by selling themselves to the devil they opened the way for all this conjecture. Of course given they had just lost their daughter I don't blame them for this, but their advisers and the press behaved dreadfully. The McCanns made some bad descisions, but assuming they were innocent, boy have they paid.
Initially, I have to admit I did think the McCanns were involved in the disappearance of Maddy. My opinion was probably influenced by the cold, detached, controlled way they behaved during interviews and press conferences. Had I found myself in their situation (God forbid), I would have been in such a state I would have been incapable of stringing a sentence together.
However, in the past year I have seen a documentary about the Mccanns where Kate, in particular, was extremely emotional when speaking of her daughter and admitted she feels trememdous guilt for leaving the children alone in the apartment.
It is very easy to dislike the McCanns. After all, here are two people who put their wants and needs before the safety of their three children. They were, without doubt, irresponsible, negligent and selfish - but that doesn`t make them guilty of murder or abduction.
If they played no part in Maddy`s disappearance (except leaving her in the apartment), it must be soul-destroying to know that so many people suspect you of the crime.
Unless there is concrete evidence that the McCanns were invoved in their daughter`s disappearance, they should be granted the same right to "innocent until proven guilty" as anyone else in this country.
However, in the past year I have seen a documentary about the Mccanns where Kate, in particular, was extremely emotional when speaking of her daughter and admitted she feels trememdous guilt for leaving the children alone in the apartment.
It is very easy to dislike the McCanns. After all, here are two people who put their wants and needs before the safety of their three children. They were, without doubt, irresponsible, negligent and selfish - but that doesn`t make them guilty of murder or abduction.
If they played no part in Maddy`s disappearance (except leaving her in the apartment), it must be soul-destroying to know that so many people suspect you of the crime.
Unless there is concrete evidence that the McCanns were invoved in their daughter`s disappearance, they should be granted the same right to "innocent until proven guilty" as anyone else in this country.
I've never thought they were involved in her disappearance other than to have left her and the twins alone. Although, that is criminal on it's own. What I am unable to accept is their account of how it occurred.
I really don't accept the 'abduction from the apartment' line..I truly believe that she must have wandered out looking for her Mum and Dad. It was perhaps whilst she was wandering around that an opportunistic abductor took her. Apparently her scent was tracked as far as the local supermarket.
I don't know and I doubt that anyone will ever know the full story, but there are far too many inconsistencies in their account to accept it as being the only true version.
As for being innocent until proven guilty ? ...in the Stephen Lawrence case, the police know who killed him, but they can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. They certainly aren't looking for anyone else in his case.
I really don't accept the 'abduction from the apartment' line..I truly believe that she must have wandered out looking for her Mum and Dad. It was perhaps whilst she was wandering around that an opportunistic abductor took her. Apparently her scent was tracked as far as the local supermarket.
I don't know and I doubt that anyone will ever know the full story, but there are far too many inconsistencies in their account to accept it as being the only true version.
As for being innocent until proven guilty ? ...in the Stephen Lawrence case, the police know who killed him, but they can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. They certainly aren't looking for anyone else in his case.
quote:I think we will know what happened eventually and it will come out in the most surprising way, after all the twins as they get older will have recollections, it could yet come out what happened from them as they get older.
I can see what will happen though. If the twins later recollect anything from that night they will be told that their recollections can not be relied upon regardless of if they are correct.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by PinkBabe1966:
On the other hand what about if it does come out that they did do something to Madeline, when the twins are older? How are the twins going to feel then?
IMO (and as most of you know I am not a parent, would love to be..but that's another story).
If the children were using the crÃĻche service, which were the same people as the babysitting service, then the children would know them and it would have been better than being left. I don't think personally I could relax if there was not a responsible adult that my children could call out too/get in touch with if there was a problem, so with at least 9 in the group, if they didn't feel the need for the babysitting, then surely one of the parents could have taken in turns at night to be near the children or even take the children to eat with them, Portuguese and Europeans in general have a different attitude, they would have welcomed the children into the bar and made a huge fuss of them
some of the children had been ill during the holiday and still had gone to the crÃĻche service, I'm pretty certain that mum's on here would not have done that.
I think we will know what happened eventually and it will come out in the most surprising way, after all the twins as they get older will have recollections, it could yet come out what happened from them as they get older.
From this link This is moneyquote:The McCannsâ choice to leave their children at the flat and make regular checks is surprising given the alternatives. In their defence, they may have been expecting, as advertised in Mark Warner brochures, a âlistening serviceâ. Staff told us that the service had been discontinued because the apartments were too spread out. The resort, however, offered a baby-sitting service for 15 euros (ÂĢ10) an hour, which was staffed by a member of the daytime nursery teams, or a âdining out clubâ. This involved parents dropping off children at the crÃĻche where they would be supervised watching videos until they went to sleep. Parents would then return before 11.30 to scoop up their sleepy offspring.
I think the McCanns were the type of parents who thought that routine was very important for kids, especially sleep routines. They went out all together on the first evening and the kids did not enjoy being up late, so the parents decided to eat nearby and check on the kids regularly for the rest of the holiday.
Ironically, it could be the desire to be perfect parents that has now seen them branded as neglectful, or even worse, culpable in her possible death.
I am more likely to think that the McCanns were the type of parents that would wish to save ÂĢ10 per hour on a baby sitting service.
quote:It is very easy to dislike the McCanns. After all, here are two people who put their wants and needs before the safety of their three children. They were, without doubt, irresponsible, negligent and selfish - but that doesn`t make them guilty of murder or abduction.
How about the possibility of them being guilty of manslaughter? It is quite possible that Madeleine died before they left the apartment to go to dinner that night. She hadn't been seen by any witness for quite a while.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
From this link This is moneyquote:The McCannsâ choice to leave their children at the flat and make regular checks is surprising given the alternatives. In their defence, they may have been expecting, as advertised in Mark Warner brochures, a âlistening serviceâ. Staff told us that the service had been discontinued because the apartments were too spread out. The resort, however, offered a baby-sitting service for 15 euros (ÂĢ10) an hour, which was staffed by a member of the daytime nursery teams, or a âdining out clubâ. This involved parents dropping off children at the crÃĻche where they would be supervised watching videos until they went to sleep. Parents would then return before 11.30 to scoop up their sleepy offspring.
I think the McCanns were the type of parents who thought that routine was very important for kids, especially sleep routines. They went out all together on the first evening and the kids did not enjoy being up late, so the parents decided to eat nearby and check on the kids regularly for the rest of the holiday.
Ironically, it could be the desire to be perfect parents that has now seen them branded as neglectful, or even worse, culpable in her possible death.
I am more likely to think that the McCanns were the type of parents that would wish to save ÂĢ10 per hour on a baby sitting service.
That's very honest of you.
quote:That's very honest of you.
I always speak my mind on here Blizzie. Many don't like it but yes I am honest.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
From this link This is moneyquote:The McCannsâ choice to leave their children at the flat and make regular checks is surprising given the alternatives. In their defence, they may have been expecting, as advertised in Mark Warner brochures, a âlistening serviceâ. Staff told us that the service had been discontinued because the apartments were too spread out. The resort, however, offered a baby-sitting service for 15 euros (ÂĢ10) an hour, which was staffed by a member of the daytime nursery teams, or a âdining out clubâ. This involved parents dropping off children at the crÃĻche where they would be supervised watching videos until they went to sleep. Parents would then return before 11.30 to scoop up their sleepy offspring.
I think the McCanns were the type of parents who thought that routine was very important for kids, especially sleep routines. They went out all together on the first evening and the kids did not enjoy being up late, so the parents decided to eat nearby and check on the kids regularly for the rest of the holiday.
Ironically, it could be the desire to be perfect parents that has now seen them branded as neglectful, or even worse, culpable in her possible death.
I am more likely to think that the McCanns were the type of parents that would wish to save ÂĢ10 per hour on a baby sitting service.
That's very honest of you.
Blizzie you have my utmost admiration for being so tenacious. I like you have relentlessly argued my point in the past. I dont have the patience anymore.
It beats me why people keep coming up with these theories (drugs/hair testing, dna etc etc) when they have all been disproved.
Isn't this so called new info from the book by the disgraced former police officer who has an axe to grind with the McCanns?
quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:
Blizzie you have my utmost admiration for being so tenacious. I like you have relentlessly argued my point in the past. I dont have the patience anymore.
It beats me why people keep coming up with these theories (drugs/hair testing, dna etc etc) when they have all been disproved.
Isn't this so called new info from the book by the disgraced former police officer who has an axe to grind with the McCanns?
Soozy!I suppose it's like all these con-spiracy theories, once the misinformation is out there, it's almost impossible to put the genie back in the bottle.
I just find it hard to believe that people can't think "What if they are innocent?" and put themselves in their shoes.
quote:It beats me why people keep coming up with these theories (drugs/hair testing, dna etc etc) when they have all been disproved.
Isn't this so called new info from the book by the disgraced former police officer who has an axe to grind with the McCanns?
I asked a question regarding the hair testing for sedative drugs because I wanted to know the timescale and the rate of hairgrowth etc.
I never mentioned anything about DNA evidence.
I don't know anything about a book.
So I hope you are not putting me among the "people who keep coming up with these theories" as you so posted.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:It beats me why people keep coming up with these theories (drugs/hair testing, dna etc etc) when they have all been disproved.
Isn't this so called new info from the book by the disgraced former police officer who has an axe to grind with the McCanns?
I asked a question regarding the hair testing for sedative drugs because I wanted to know the timescale and the rate of hairgrowth etc.
I never mentioned anything about DNA evidence.
I don't know anything about a book.
So I hope you are not putting me among the "people who keep coming up with these theories" as you so posted.
It wasn't a personal attack on you in anyway ............i was just talking generally about the whole thread and the so called evidence people keep bringing up.
No way a personal attack on you..................honestly.
quote:No way a personal attack on you..................honestly.
OK.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:
Blizzie you have my utmost admiration for being so tenacious. I like you have relentlessly argued my point in the past. I dont have the patience anymore.
It beats me why people keep coming up with these theories (drugs/hair testing, dna etc etc) when they have all been disproved.
Isn't this so called new info from the book by the disgraced former police officer who has an axe to grind with the McCanns?
I suppose it's like all these con-spiracy theories, once the misinformation is out there, it's almost impossible to put the genie back in the bottle.
I just find it hard to believe that people can't think "What if they are innocent?" and put themselves in their shoes.
Howdy people. Just come in and found this thread still going strong.
I cannot comprehend why people demonise the McCanns.
Their daughter is gone, they obviously have to live with that horror. Some compassion towards them seems in order.
I imagine that their lack of supervision of their kids that night haunts their every waking moment and that they are their own harshest critics.
quote:Originally posted by riversider:
Howdy people. Just come in and found this thread still going strong.
I cannot comprehend why people demonise the McCanns.
Their daughter is gone, they obviously have to live with that horror. Some compassion towards them seems in order.
I imagine that their lack of supervision of their kids that night haunts their every waking moment and that they are their own harshest critics.
Hi riversider.
I couldn't agree more.
quote:Originally posted by riversider:
Howdy people. Just come in and found this thread still going strong.
I cannot comprehend why people demonise the McCanns.
Their daughter is gone, they obviously have to live with that horror. Some compassion towards them seems in order.
I imagine that their lack of supervision of their kids that night haunts their every waking moment and that they are their own harshest critics.
Very true.
quote:Originally posted by riversider:
Their daughter is gone, they obviously have to live with that horror. Some compassion towards them seems in order.
I imagine that their lack of supervision of their kids that night haunts their every waking moment and that they are their own harshest critics.
Hello
It's not the fact that they left their kids alone that some people have issues with them, but it's that some people(including me) dont believe their story one bit and think they might have something to do with their daughters disappearence.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by riversider:
Their daughter is gone, they obviously have to live with that horror. Some compassion towards them seems in order.
I imagine that their lack of supervision of their kids that night haunts their every waking moment and that they are their own harshest critics.
Hello
It's not the fact that they left their kids alone that some people have issues with them, but it's that some people(including me) dont believe their story one bit and think they might have something to do with their daughters disappearence.
Me too Vid. I read everything I could find on them from the start, watched a lot of TV footage of them. I tried to see them as grieving parents. I tried not to see them as being guilty in any way other than leaving 3 babies unattended.
But I keep on coming to the same conclusion, that being they had something to do with her disappearance or death.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
It's not the fact that they left their kids alone that some people have issues with them, but it's that some people(including me) dont believe their story one bit and think they might have something to do with their daughters disappearence.
Me too Vid. I read everything I could find on them from the start, watched a lot of TV footage of them. I tried to see them as grieving parents. I tried not to see them as being guilty in any way other than leaving 3 babies unattended.
But I keep on coming to the same conclusion, that being they had something to do with her disappearance or death.
But what if you are both wrong?
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
It's not the fact that they left their kids alone that some people have issues with them, but it's that some people(including me) dont believe their story one bit and think they might have something to do with their daughters disappearence.
Me too Vid. I read everything I could find on them from the start, watched a lot of TV footage of them. I tried to see them as grieving parents. I tried not to see them as being guilty in any way other than leaving 3 babies unattended.
But I keep on coming to the same conclusion, that being they had something to do with her disappearance or death.
But what if you are both wrong?
Well one theory is wrong and one theory is right. Only the McCanns know the answer and poossibly the twins. But I am allowed my point of view surely?
well, I think you all pretty much know my feelings as regards this case!
IMO they (the parents) DO know what happened to her, accidental or whateve - I believe they know EXACTLY what happened - and where she is.
IF indeed it was an abduction, and we're talking about a missing (as was) 3 year old child - then they are guilty - guilty as hell - they ALLOWED her to be abducted - like I have said before in previous posts on C4 forum - IF she was abducted, they are bloody lucky to have two children left behind
hideous arrogant people they are
IMO they (the parents) DO know what happened to her, accidental or whateve - I believe they know EXACTLY what happened - and where she is.
IF indeed it was an abduction, and we're talking about a missing (as was) 3 year old child - then they are guilty - guilty as hell - they ALLOWED her to be abducted - like I have said before in previous posts on C4 forum - IF she was abducted, they are bloody lucky to have two children left behind
hideous arrogant people they are
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
But what if you are both wrong?
Well one theory is wrong and one theory is right. Only the McCanns know the answer and poossibly the twins. But I am allowed my point of view surely?
If you are wrong, they have to contend with losing their beloved daughter and malicious gossip all over the internet, claiming that they killed her.
Totally unfair and unkind, IMO.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
But what if you are both wrong?
Well one theory is wrong and one theory is right. Only the McCanns know the answer and poossibly the twins. But I am allowed my point of view surely?
If you are wrong, they have to contend with losing their beloved daughter and malicious gossip all over the internet, claiming that they killed her.
Totally unfair and unkind, IMO.
Blizzie, never for one moment have I accused them of murder!
none of us know ANYTHING for sure, but what sickens me IS the fact that the McCanns are getting away with (I was going to say murder..)- gross negligence AND now for the past while there has been a BAN on stuff being allowed to be printed in the papers and aired on screen. I mean - who the hell are they???? THEY???? Got a meeting with the Pope, bezzie mates with Oprah....
yeah lets ALL leave our 2 and 3 year old kids not home alone but ABROAD alone, get onto Sky News even before we've finished looking, have some photos at the ready, let EVERYONE else do the searching, then pop off for a game of tennis (or whatever) practically the next day..
yeah lets ALL leave our 2 and 3 year old kids not home alone but ABROAD alone, get onto Sky News even before we've finished looking, have some photos at the ready, let EVERYONE else do the searching, then pop off for a game of tennis (or whatever) practically the next day..
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
If you are wrong, they have to contend with losing their beloved daughter and malicious gossip all over the internet, claiming that they killed her.
Totally unfair and unkind, IMO.
Blizzie, never for one moment have I accused them of murder!
What does this imply then?
quote:But I keep on coming to the same conclusion, that being they had something to do with her disappearance or death.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
If you are wrong, they have to contend with losing their beloved daughter and malicious gossip all over the internet, claiming that they killed her.
Totally unfair and unkind, IMO.
Blizzie, never for one moment have I accused them of murder!
What does this imply then?quote:But I keep on coming to the same conclusion, that being they had something to do with her disappearance or death.
It implies accidental death.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:
It implies accidental death.
By their hand?
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:
It implies accidental death.
By their hand?
Maybe, maybe not, but if that happened it would have been while she was in their care.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:
It implies accidental death.
By their hand?
Maybe, maybe not, but if that happened it would have been while she was in their care.
Sorry to keep going round in circles but how do you suppose they got rid of her body with the eyes of the world on her? Do you not think that this has been thoroughly investigated? They are undoubtdly clever people as they are both doctors but they're not magicians.
quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by *BB*:
It implies accidental death.
By their hand?
Maybe, maybe not, but if that happened it would have been while she was in their care.
Sorry to keep going round in circles but how do you suppose they got rid of her body with the eyes of the world on her? Do you not think that this has been thoroughly investigated? They are undoubtdly clever people as they are both doctors but they're not magicians.
If that had happened, they had plenty of time to hide her somewhere. I think that it is quite possible that something happened to her before they left the apartment for dinner. She hadn't been seen for some time that evening.
Kate McCann has been widely reported as shouting out that "he has taken her" or very similar words. That happened much later on that evening when they reported her as missing. Why shout out that?
I don't know why but I still get surprised that people get taken in by mis information and dis information long after it's been proven to be wrong.
They were not only questioned by Portugese Police but by Scotland Yard. The detectives who are now working on their behalf have all worked in the police force for many years and as one of them has said, if he had even the slighest inkling they were involved he would not be working for them in trying to find out what happened to Madeleine.
I often notice that a lot of mistrust about the McCanns is simply that some of the public don't like them as people - how that makes them murderers boggles the mind, well my mind anyway.
I truly hope the McCanns get the answer they need, I hope the public do too.
They were not only questioned by Portugese Police but by Scotland Yard. The detectives who are now working on their behalf have all worked in the police force for many years and as one of them has said, if he had even the slighest inkling they were involved he would not be working for them in trying to find out what happened to Madeleine.
I often notice that a lot of mistrust about the McCanns is simply that some of the public don't like them as people - how that makes them murderers boggles the mind, well my mind anyway.
I truly hope the McCanns get the answer they need, I hope the public do too.