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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by brisket:
But this is trivial.
Hardly bitching or slagging in my opinion.
Bea and Freddie still like each other`s company as far as I know.
This is all part of getting to know someone better, testing the waters, compromise.
I think far too much is being read into it.

I agree.

If that is bitching what the hell does that make the stuff Lisa, Charlie, Rodrigo, Marcus, Tm, Siavash, Karly, Kris etc do?

Bitching doesnt always have to be done in an evil troll/backstabbing way. In fact, "bitching" done like a normal conversation is often much more devious. The person listening doesnt realise that the one talking is bitching. They just hear a "nice" individual bemoaning their situation, tney feel sorry for them, and their feelings towards the other person changes. Far more insiduous!

As to my opinion of this ....... Bea needs to think of people in glass houses not throwing stones. For someone who admitted in her interview video about having had an orgy, calling someone else sleazy is a bit rich! I did like how she stood up to Kenneth, but she's not impressing me at all since then.

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Originally posted by Fifi29:


Bitching doesnt always have to be done in an evil troll/backstabbing way. In fact, "bitching" done like a normal conversation is often much more devious. The person listening doesnt realise that the one talking is bitching. They just hear a "nice" individual bemoaning their situation, tney feel sorry for them, and their feelings towards the other person changes. Far more insiduous!

As to my opinion of this ....... Bea needs to think of people in glass houses not throwing stones. For someone who admitted in her interview video about having had an orgy, calling someone else sleazy is a bit rich! I did like how she stood up to Kenneth, but she's not impressing me at all since then.

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Originally posted by Skylark24:
While watching LF this morning there were times where I got a look in her eye, as if she just cant be bothered with Freddie......

She's not impressed at times.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
http://www.channel4.com/bigbro...f136886bfa2c/play.c4

Yeh, fair enough Bea, have that opinion, but don't then jump into bed with him every night spooning him.

She calls him sleazy??????????????????????

OH MY GOD! The woman wants to be a sex therapist or something - this is incredulous! So what was once a healthy appetite for all things sexual and loving is now sleazy. Good god the woman is making me mad.

Im gutted she said that, i've now gone from liking her to hating her in the space of 2 mins.20secs.

People tried to tell me that shes no good but I wouldn't listen...I was wrong.

I think she has gone from heroine to witch in the space of a couple of days.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think she has gone from heroine to witch in the space of a couple of days.

looks like noirin s shoes will be filled before she even leaves lol

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Originally posted by Aquarius 11:

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Originally posted by *KG*:
I find her complex and confusing. Just when I think that I get where she's coming from and can relate to what she says, she goes and does something that I find rather disingenuous.

I'm fence-sitting where she's concerned at the moment because I've liked and agreed with some of the conversations she's had but I'm now doubting her motives for having had them

Yup, me too.
I really liked her when she first came in but
now I'm wondering. I will give her the benefit
of the doubt though and see how things go over
the next week or so.

Me too!

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Im gutted she said that, i've now gone from liking her to hating her in the space of 2 mins.20secs.

People tried to tell me that shes no good but I wouldn't listen...I was wrong.

She fooled a few of us ,took me a couple of days to suss her,if Noirin goes Bea will cosy up with Siavash she likes Siavash not Freddie,he has served his purpose,his purpose to gain Bea support from the others,job done and she will move on.Weeks ago I would never think that Charlie could win ,I do now.Siavash has blown his chance ,might even walk if Noirin is evicted.

If Bea is up at some point before the final she would go, but would only survive against Hira, Lisa, David and Marcus.

I just watched the video, and to be fair, Freddie did come across as a little bit sleazy (regardless of his good intention). I adore the guy, but come on, "we can swap notes" is very forward, in the context that it was meant (suggestive).

If she had run to somebody and started bitching, I'd agree with you all, but Siavash was there when the conversation happened, and it was Siavash that approached Bea after Freddie left the room.

It seems that she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. One minute people are blasting her for sucking up to Freddie, the next they are crucifying her for being upset with him. Talk about contradictory.

I consider myself a very equitable person, which is why I don’t let my unwavering fondness for Freddie enter the equation. His intentions are always pure of heart, but I can absolutely see how his forward manner (in this case) could cause distress. Especially if it happens frequently.

Also, Bea being bohemian doesn’t automatically mean that she is open to all sexual advances.

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Originally posted by Mathematics:
I just watched the video, and to be fair, Freddie did come across as a little bit sleazy (regardless of his good intention). I adore the guy, but come on, "we can swap notes" is very forward, in the context that it was meant (suggestive).

If she had run to somebody and started bitching, I'd agree with you all, but Siavash was there when the conversation happened, and it was Siavash that approached Bea after Freddie left the room.

It seems that she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. One minute people are blasting her for sucking up to Freddie, the next they are crucifying her for being upset with him. Talk about contradictory.

I consider myself a very equitable person, which is why I don’t let my unwavering fondness for Freddie enter the equation. His intentions are always pure of heart, but I can absolutely see how his forward manner (in this case) could cause distress. Especially if it happens frequently.

Also, Bea being bohemian doesn’t automatically mean that she is open to all sexual advances.

Fair enough, but why didn't she tell Freddie this to his face, and stop fondling him in bed might help.

Freddie was a complete knob in what he was saying, who does he think he is, bloody Casanova? If Marcus had said that there would be outrage on the forum, perv threads by the.....God knows how many

Bea = the new Noirin

After Noirin goes on Friday, I think more and more people will start to realise that Bea has basically picked up where Noirin left off.

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Freddie was a complete knob in what he was saying, who does he think he is, bloody Casanova? If Marcus had said that there would be outrage on the forum, perv threads by the.....God knows how many

Does she get into bed with Marcus every night?

It doesn't take a genius to realise that Freddie is smitten by Bea, and we are also aware that the feeling isn't mutual. So the question has to be asked, why does she snuggle and spoon with him every night?

Seriously, those two give us women a bad name

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Bea = the new Noirin

After Noirin goes on Friday, I think more and more people will start to realise that Bea has basically picked up where Noirin left off.

For saying what she said about Freddie I'd say shes worse than Noirin.

At least Noirin didn't spread poison like Bea has just done.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Bea = the new Noirin

After Noirin goes on Friday, I think more and more people will start to realise that Bea has basically picked up where Noirin left off.

Bea wants to be Noirin

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Originally posted by erinp:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Bea = the new Noirin

After Noirin goes on Friday, I think more and more people will start to realise that Bea has basically picked up where Noirin left off.

Bea wants to be Noirin

Gawd knows why.

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Im gutted she said that, i've now gone from liking her to hating her in the space of 2 mins.20secs.

People tried to tell me that shes no good but I wouldn't listen...I was wrong.

aw vid we all make mistakes

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Originally posted by mrs d:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Im gutted she said that, i've now gone from liking her to hating her in the space of 2 mins.20secs.

People tried to tell me that shes no good but I wouldn't listen...I was wrong.

aw vid we all make mistakes

Thankyou mrs d I was totally suckered in by her.

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Bea = the new Noirin

After Noirin goes on Friday, I think more and more people will start to realise that Bea has basically picked up where Noirin left off.

For saying what she said about Freddie I'd say shes worse than Noirin.

At least Noirin didn't spread poison like Bea has just done.

I've been deeply suspicious of Bea. My suspicion started the night she belittled Marcus in the bedroom by asking why he loves Noirin so much. Bea was clearly trying to humiliate him.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Bea = the new Noirin

After Noirin goes on Friday, I think more and more people will start to realise that Bea has basically picked up where Noirin left off.

For saying what she said about Freddie I'd say shes worse than Noirin.

At least Noirin didn't spread poison like Bea has just done.

I've been deeply suspicious of Bea. My suspicion started the night she belittled Marcus in the bedroom by asking why he loves Noirin so much. Bea was clearly trying to humiliate him.

I give you credit for picking it right, she is a horror show on long legs.

Awww, VS. She is playing a very cunning game though.

What I think she is doing is using key words which she knows will get picked up on and cause offense easily to the outside ie "Sleazy". Who have we heard being called that so often? Not so much in the BB house any more as outside of it and one thing guaranteed to start an uproar is any suggestion of "sleaze" - oh and "fat" on a woman. Perhaps she's sowing little seeds of doubt amongst the other people or perhaps she's hoping to winkle Freddie out of his golden throne (not self appointed I might add) and expose his weaknesses... without realising that we've actually seen Freddie down in the dirt being treated like shite, being made to be an outcast and we don't need to see it again.
The honest truth of it is that Freddie isn't being sleazy just because she hates the sound of his voice and some of the things he says. What he said was quite innocent flirting. She just isn't interested and now is having a hard time trying to convince everyone that she meant spiritual love all along.. oh yeeeaahhhh.... of course she did.....

I would really like Bea if it weren't for the fact that she felt this idiotic need to try and make herself into something she isn't All the "free love" bull for a start and this old thing of making herself indispensable and available to soothe the male egos only to have it backfire when they start (well, in Freddie's case) deep breathing and getting a stiffy and you don't fancy them. A real sex therapist would think that was healthy. Bea, I don't think you would make a very good one, no offence? I'm not suggesting she pretend to like it in fact I don't really know what a sex therapist would do, but am guessing they wouldn't be irritated by the obvious and say it was sleazy.

The highlight show revealed that Bea did tell Freddie how she felt. As I suspected the whole thing was blown out of proportion as some part of Bea's dastardly plot to knobble Freddie. I still have an open mind about Bea and feel that her main fault is being too much of a busy body and trying to manage everyone's lives, something she seemed to recognize later that evening when she said that she and Freddie needed to step back a bit from playing parents to the house.
I don't buy the idea that Bea's personality is all a construct designed to get close to Freddie and that really she is a power dressing, 4x4 driving, festival hating hard nosed business type on a mission to eliminate the more popular hms and become the winner herself!