Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by PeterCat:
On the Fuji TV report just now: a woman had been at work when the quake happened while her husband was at home with their two children. She went home to find that not only her house, but her whole neighbourhood had disappeared completely. Just washed away. Her husband, her kids and everyone she knew have gone.
Mother of god, my tummy flipped at the thought of that.Also something i just read up there ^ you will either just not cope, or just do what is necessary to keep going.
Originally Posted by pretty_p:
I think in situations like this there are only 2 ways that people react - some will go to pieces immediately whilst others will just pick themselves up and get on with it.
Personally I think there are many, many different ways of dealing with it. Some have lost their homes and all their possessions but the family is intact. Some may still haVE THEIR HOME BT LOST ALL THeir family. Others will have lost their job and way of making a living ..............................lots and lots are fearing contamination in the atmosphere and really not knowing what the future holds.Meanwhile there is fuel, food and water shortage on a large scale. To say that there are only two ways of dealing with it is a bit simplistic isn't it? My heart goes out to all Japanese people ...........they are all suffering.
I know it's bad enough, but the images that really make me blink are ships in the middle of fields and boats on top of buildings! there was one tonight where it had hoisted a ship up on to the quayside 
It's like...it's a ship, it's not supposed to be up there
It's like...it's a ship, it's not supposed to be up there Originally Posted by Eve Evelyn:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by PeterCat:
On the Fuji TV report just now: a woman had been at work when the quake happened while her husband was at home with their two children. She went home to find that not only her house, but her whole neighbourhood had disappeared completely. Just washed away. Her husband, her kids and everyone she knew have gone.
Mother of god, my tummy flipped at the thought of that.Also something i just read up there ^ you will either just not cope, or just do what is necessary to keep going.
Originally Posted by sproooot:
I know it's bad enough, but the images that really make me blink are ships in the middle of fields and boats on top of buildings! there was one tonight where it had hoisted a ship up on to the quayside
That is quite a horrific and shocking sight Sproooot...
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by pretty_p:
I think in situations like this there are only 2 ways that people react - some will go to pieces immediately whilst others will just pick themselves up and get on with it.
Personally I think there are many, many different ways of dealing with it. Some have lost their homes and all their possessions but the family is intact. Some may still haVE THEIR HOME BT LOST ALL THeir family. Others will have lost their job and way of making a living ..............................lots and lots are fearing contamination in the atmosphere and really not knowing what the future holds.Meanwhile there is fuel, food and water shortage on a large scale. To say that there are only two ways of dealing with it is a bit simplistic isn't it? My heart goes out to all Japanese people ...........they are all suffering.
Unbelievable 
Originally Posted by pretty_p:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by pretty_p:
I think in situations like this there are only 2 ways that people react - some will go to pieces immediately whilst others will just pick themselves up and get on with it.
Personally I think there are many, many different ways of dealing with it. Some have lost their homes and all their possessions but the family is intact. Some may still haVE THEIR HOME BT LOST ALL THeir family. Others will have lost their job and way of making a living ..............................lots and lots are fearing contamination in the atmosphere and really not knowing what the future holds.Meanwhile there is fuel, food and water shortage on a large scale. To say that there are only two ways of dealing with it is a bit simplistic isn't it? My heart goes out to all Japanese people ...........they are all suffering.
It's not black and white and really not easy to brush yourself down and say 'hey ho' let's get on with it then. These things take time.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!1
Originally Posted by pretty_p:
I received the first joke about this on Friday night!!
TBH I think we need jokes in situations like this - now I know that may sound harsh but we can't dwell on it. This situation is beyond comprehension for most of us and it really is frightening to think that such a thing can happen and unfortunately as per usual the media play on that and scare people, therefore jokes are needed to give people a sense of relaity. As long as there is no nasty intention (which for the vast majority of people there isn't) and people don't rub such jokes in the faces of those directly affected I think a little time not looking at the negatives can be beneficial.
Agree on some of these points for my own reaons.TBH I think we need jokes in situations like this - now I know that may sound harsh but we can't dwell on it. This situation is beyond comprehension for most of us and it really is frightening to think that such a thing can happen and unfortunately as per usual the media play on that and scare people, therefore jokes are needed to give people a sense of relaity. As long as there is no nasty intention (which for the vast majority of people there isn't) and people don't rub such jokes in the faces of those directly affected I think a little time not looking at the negatives can be beneficial.
I think its a thin line between releasing feelings of laughter and of tears.
They are all a release in their own light.
Once i was so distraught at something so horrific i laughed so much ... it was just like crying, but i couldn't cry.
It had the same effect none the less, and was told that it was better than keeping all emotions locked in.
So in retrospect of what i have learned and what i have experienced, YES laugh as much as you want, if something is so touching or emotional that it gets to you. Even if you upset others in doing so. Hopefully some can understand.
I can see which way this thread is going now. I'm off... night folks....
I'm off... night folks....
I think even if there was no deaths involved... I still wouldn't find it amusing. People have lost their homes and possessions, something I would be extremely sad/annoyed at.
People deal with it differently, PP won't be the only one to find it amusing... im not too sure you would find anyone in Japan that feels the same way though.
It was the same with Michael Jackson, on here very few were upset... most seemed to have a right laugh about it.
Mind you, the whole "respect MJ you coont!" from those few on here gave me a right chuckle.
People deal with it differently, PP won't be the only one to find it amusing... im not too sure you would find anyone in Japan that feels the same way though.
It was the same with Michael Jackson, on here very few were upset... most seemed to have a right laugh about it.
Mind you, the whole "respect MJ you coont!" from those few on here gave me a right chuckle.
Originally Posted by Eve Evelyn:
YES laugh as much as you want, if something is so touching or emotional that it gets to you. Even if you upset others in doing so. Hopefully some can understand.
Sick jokes in the wake of a horrific tragedy have absolutely nothing to do with your own personal coping mechanisms in the face of great loss. It's a cheap joke at the expense of people who are still trying to drag their dead out of scorched rubble. Their terrible loss, not yours, so your 'coping mechanism' defence really doesn't wash with me.
Well i do not find any of it amusing, but if some are so horrifically wounded (mentally or emotionally) even watching it... then i would not condemn anyone for ANY release what so ever.
People can laugh and feel distraught sure to god.
People can laugh and feel distraught sure to god.
Originally Posted by Eve Evelyn:
Originally Posted by pretty_p:
I received the first joke about this on Friday night!!
TBH I think we need jokes in situations like this - now I know that may sound harsh but we can't dwell on it. This situation is beyond comprehension for most of us and it really is frightening to think that such a thing can happen and unfortunately as per usual the media play on that and scare people, therefore jokes are needed to give people a sense of relaity. As long as there is no nasty intention (which for the vast majority of people there isn't) and people don't rub such jokes in the faces of those directly affected I think a little time not looking at the negatives can be beneficial.
Agree on some of these points for my own reaons.TBH I think we need jokes in situations like this - now I know that may sound harsh but we can't dwell on it. This situation is beyond comprehension for most of us and it really is frightening to think that such a thing can happen and unfortunately as per usual the media play on that and scare people, therefore jokes are needed to give people a sense of relaity. As long as there is no nasty intention (which for the vast majority of people there isn't) and people don't rub such jokes in the faces of those directly affected I think a little time not looking at the negatives can be beneficial.
I think its a thin line between releasing feelings of laughter and of tears.
They are all a release in their own light.
Once i was so distraught at something so horrific i laughed so much ... it was just like crying, but i couldn't cry.
It had the same effect none the less, and was told that it was better than keeping all emotions locked in.
So in retrospect of what i have learned and what i have experienced, YES laugh as much as you want, if something is so touching or emotional that it gets to you. Even if you upset others in doing so. Hopefully some can understand.
Please, let's not turn this thread about the huge loss of life in Japan into a row.
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Originally Posted by Eve Evelyn:
YES laugh as much as you want, if something is so touching or emotional that it gets to you. Even if you upset others in doing so. Hopefully some can understand.
Sick jokes in the wake of a horrific tragedy have absolutely nothing to do with your own personal coping mechanisms in the face of great loss. It's a cheap joke at the expense of people who are still trying to drag their dead out of scorched rubble. Their terrible loss, not yours, so your 'coping mechanism' defence really doesn't wash with me.
Anyone who finds what happened in Japan amusing is sick in the head and needs a swift kick up the arse! How can anyone possibly find it funny? And as for making jokes about it.... or backing up anyone that does.... how insensitive can you be?
How can anyone possibly find it funny? And as for making jokes about it.... or backing up anyone that does.... how insensitive can you be?
There are jokes made about about all and every event, facet and aspect of life on Earth. Anyone who says there isn't is either a liar or walks around with their eyes and ears shut. And anyone who says a joke about a particular subject betrays the actual thoughts and feelings on the subject of the person making it is retarded.
Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
Originally Posted by Lori:
Originally Posted by Eve Evelyn:
Originally Posted by pretty_p:
I received the first joke about this on Friday night!!
TBH I think we need jokes in situations like this - now I know that may sound harsh but we can't dwell on it. This situation is beyond comprehension for most of us and it really is frightening to think that such a thing can happen and unfortunately as per usual the media play on that and scare people, therefore jokes are needed to give people a sense of relaity. As long as there is no nasty intention (which for the vast majority of people there isn't) and people don't rub such jokes in the faces of those directly affected I think a little time not looking at the negatives can be beneficial.
Agree on some of these points for my own reaons.TBH I think we need jokes in situations like this - now I know that may sound harsh but we can't dwell on it. This situation is beyond comprehension for most of us and it really is frightening to think that such a thing can happen and unfortunately as per usual the media play on that and scare people, therefore jokes are needed to give people a sense of relaity. As long as there is no nasty intention (which for the vast majority of people there isn't) and people don't rub such jokes in the faces of those directly affected I think a little time not looking at the negatives can be beneficial.
I think its a thin line between releasing feelings of laughter and of tears.
They are all a release in their own light.
Once i was so distraught at something so horrific i laughed so much ... it was just like crying, but i couldn't cry.
It had the same effect none the less, and was told that it was better than keeping all emotions locked in.
So in retrospect of what i have learned and what i have experienced, YES laugh as much as you want, if something is so touching or emotional that it gets to you. Even if you upset others in doing so. Hopefully some can understand.
Please, let's not turn this thread about the huge loss of life in Japan into a row.
i am putting giving my opinion for why peple laugh in extreme circumstances.
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Anyone who finds what happened in Japan amusing is sick in the head and needs a swift kick up the arse! How can anyone possibly find it funny? And as for making jokes about it.... or backing up anyone that does.... how insensitive can you be?
How can anyone possibly find it funny? And as for making jokes about it.... or backing up anyone that does.... how insensitive can you be?It's not about finding it amusing. I don't suppose the writers of Dad's Army or Allo Allo thought the dead of WW2 were a barrel of laughs. Popular series them and all.
Originally Posted by Antiope:
There are jokes made about about all and every event, facet and aspect of life on Earth. Anyone who says there isn't is either a liar or walks around with their eyes and ears shut. And anyone who says a joke about a particular subject betrays the actual thoughts and feelings on the subject of the person making it is retarded.
Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
Excuse me, don't assume to know how EVERYONE reacts to tragedy or imply that we all take the piss and laugh at peoples unhappiness. And don't call us LIARS please! Frankly your post here is completely out of order. Have some compassion for goodness sake, and don't tar everyone with the same brush!Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
Originally Posted by MrMincePie:
I think even if there was no deaths involved... I still wouldn't find it amusing. People have lost their homes and possessions, something I would be extremely sad/annoyed at.
People deal with it differently, PP won't be the only one to find it amusing... im not too sure you would find anyone in Japan that feels the same way though.
It was the same with Michael Jackson, on here very few were upset... most seemed to have a right laugh about it.
Mind you, the whole "respect MJ you coont!" from those few on here gave me a right chuckle.
I was just thinking back to the MJ thing strangely enough.People deal with it differently, PP won't be the only one to find it amusing... im not too sure you would find anyone in Japan that feels the same way though.
It was the same with Michael Jackson, on here very few were upset... most seemed to have a right laugh about it.
Mind you, the whole "respect MJ you coont!" from those few on here gave me a right chuckle.
MJ was an addict who was amazingly talented, but also, of his own accord, caused a hell of a lot of negative attention to himself. After his admission that he liked children to sleep in his bed with him I didn't have any respect for him as a person (but I still liked and respected his music before he started all that foolishness). I was one of those who laughed at the outpourings of grief surrounding his demise, because, in a similar way to when Diana died, it was like a competition as to who could be the most upset. I didn't laugh at their deaths, but I laughed at the over the top ridiculous reactions to 2 people who both loved media spotlight and manipulated it to their advantage, and in Jackson's case, thinking he could do what the hell he liked and not be questioned about it while shoving shit loads of drugs into his veins.
Totally different situation to Japan.
Originally Posted by Antiope:
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Anyone who finds what happened in Japan amusing is sick in the head and needs a swift kick up the arse! How can anyone possibly find it funny? And as for making jokes about it.... or backing up anyone that does.... how insensitive can you be?
How can anyone possibly find it funny? And as for making jokes about it.... or backing up anyone that does.... how insensitive can you be?It's not about finding it amusing. I don't suppose the writers of Dad's Army or Allo Allo thought the dead of WW2 were a barrel of laughs. Popular series them and all.
Originally Posted by Antiope:
There are jokes made about about all and every event, facet and aspect of life on Earth. Anyone who says there isn't is either a liar or walks around with their eyes and ears shut. And anyone who says a joke about a particular subject betrays the actual thoughts and feelings on the subject of the person making it is retarded.
Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
There are people who will never find anything even vaguely amusing about such terrible loss of life on such a massive scale. Don't assume everyone thinks like you.
How do you think PC will feel when he reads this? His partner is still waiting for news of people he knows over there.
I have a great deal of compassion thanks. You've no idea what my thoughts on the Japanese tragedy are and you've no idea what I personally, may or may not have done to help.
Originally Posted by Lori:
I think you have to be considerate of others' feelings, though: if you are on a thread where people are clearly grieving, I'd consider taking your joke elsewhere.
Please, let's not turn this thread about the huge loss of life in Japan into a row.
Thank you for this Lori, and well said. Please, let's not turn this thread about the huge loss of life in Japan into a row.
This is neither the time or the place to make 'jokes' about this dreadful tragedy. I can't believe some of things that I am reading to be honest...
I phoned my brother tonight and I totally forgot that my nephew is in Japan he teaches english there. My brother has been flooded so all his stuff is wrecked and he has no internet access so he couldn't try to contact him. He cant find his numbers and doesn't know where he is because he moves all over.
he has been on facebook though talking about being fed up having to shelter in doorways. so hes ok.
he teaches english there. My brother has been flooded so all his stuff is wrecked and he has no internet access so he couldn't try to contact him. He cant find his numbers and doesn't know where he is because he moves all over. he has been on facebook though talking about being fed up having to shelter in doorways. so hes ok.
Originally Posted by Antiope:
There are jokes made about about all and every event, facet and aspect of life on Earth. Anyone who says there isn't is either a liar or walks around with their eyes and ears shut. And anyone who says a joke about a particular subject betrays the actual thoughts and feelings on the subject of the person making it is retarded.
Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
All though I haven't seen anything yet I think that might be the point here Anti. I can't deny I've been sent and probably sent some 'raw' jokes in my time, but that doesn't say I don't care about things. Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
Originally Posted by Antiope:
I have a great deal of compassion thanks. You've no idea what my thoughts on the Japanese tragedy are and you've no idea what I personally, may or may not have done to help.
Oh do me a favour! It's no good trying to backtrack now. You have made it clear what you think.Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Originally Posted by Antiope:
There are jokes made about about all and every event, facet and aspect of life on Earth. Anyone who says there isn't is either a liar or walks around with their eyes and ears shut. And anyone who says a joke about a particular subject betrays the actual thoughts and feelings on the subject of the person making it is retarded.
Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
Excuse me, don't assume to know how EVERYONE reacts to tragedy or imply that we all take the piss and laugh at peoples unhappiness. And don't call us LIARS please! Frankly your post here is completely out of order. Have some compassion for goodness sake, and don't tar everyone with the same brush!Since I made the joke in question - I'm prepared to accept criticism that it was "too soon" but frankly the rest of it is mendacious, poe-faced, deceitful bullshit. Only those who have never made or laughed at an 'off-colour' joke are in any position to criticise and I would surmise that rules out all of you.
As an aside ........................I didn't find Antiopes joke really offensive. It wasn't a belly laugh butUnder the circum,stances - it was quite tame IMO.- these jokes do the rounds.
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Originally Posted by Antiope:
I have a great deal of compassion thanks. You've no idea what my thoughts on the Japanese tragedy are and you've no idea what I personally, may or may not have done to help.
Oh do me a favour! It's no good trying to backtrack now. You have made it clear what you think.If you honestly think that making jokes indicates one's actual opinion on matters - well I find that very peculiar. Each to their own I suppose.
I don't. And I haven't backtracked in the slightest.
Originally Posted by Gypsie~:
I phoned my brother tonight and I totally forgot that my nephew is in Japan he teaches english there. My brother has been flooded so all his stuff is wrecked and he has no internet access so he couldn't try to contact him. He cant find his numbers and doesn't know where he is because he moves all over.
he has been on facebook though talking about being fed up having to shelter in doorways. so hes ok.
Thank God! he teaches english there. My brother has been flooded so all his stuff is wrecked and he has no internet access so he couldn't try to contact him. He cant find his numbers and doesn't know where he is because he moves all over.he has been on facebook though talking about being fed up having to shelter in doorways. so hes ok.
I can't believe some of the things I am reading on here. This thread is making me really angry. All those people suffering and so many dead and some people are acting like they have just had an inch of snow, and making out that me and the others who are upset and need to 'chill.' I'm logging off before I say something that results in me getting myself banned. Seriously, get a reality check please! IMO, a few people here should really be ashamed of themselves. Goodnight!
I remember laughing at Anne Frank jokes when we read her at school.
Oddly enough, I've never been in favour of the Holocaust.
Ho hum, as I said, each to their own.
Oddly enough, I've never been in favour of the Holocaust.
Ho hum, as I said, each to their own.
Originally Posted by Gypsie~:
I phoned my brother tonight and I totally forgot that my nephew is in Japan he teaches english there. My brother has been flooded so all his stuff is wrecked and he has no internet access so he couldn't try to contact him. He cant find his numbers and doesn't know where he is because he moves all over.
he has been on facebook though talking about being fed up having to shelter in doorways. so hes ok.
Gyps - at least you know he's alive........things/posessions can be rebuilt......people can't he teaches english there. My brother has been flooded so all his stuff is wrecked and he has no internet access so he couldn't try to contact him. He cant find his numbers and doesn't know where he is because he moves all over.he has been on facebook though talking about being fed up having to shelter in doorways. so hes ok.
Oh dear, pot calling kettle black time. 
Pleased he is in touch Gyps. 
Hes fine though by the sounds of things. I would hate to be there, id just want to get home as soon as possible