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Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Cagney:
My husband says I'm nuts because I said it's like the film "the day after tomorrow" but in slow motion.

with a bit of 2012 thrown in..!
I thought that too a few months ago Pirate. The Mayans didn't say about the end of the world as some think.....more of a new beginning...which if you think about it is what happened in the film 2012 

I'm getting all deep 
Cagney
Originally Posted by Cagney:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Cagney:
The Mayans didn't say about the end of the world as some think.....more of a new beginning...which if you think about it is what happened in the film 2012 

I'm getting all deep 
yeah they're on about starting again

getting rid of all the shit

i just hope that includes mugabi, gadaffi and boy bands
pirate1111
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
There is a belief that Mother Earth (Gaia)will only tolerate so much before she shakes the parasites from her skin....us...

and on that happy note..
Well I'm not  religious etc but it's as good a belief as any.Humans have this "we deserve to be here" belief...no we don't.The dinosaurs lasted over one hundred million years,we are barely scratching a million.Yet have been the most destructive,like a virus on the planet.
kattymieoww
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
There is a belief that Mother Earth (Gaia)will only tolerate so much before she shakes the parasites from her skin....us...

and on that happy note..
Well I'm not  religious etc but it's as good a belief as any.Humans have this "we deserve to be here" belief...no we don't.The dinosaurs lasted over one hundred million years,we are barely scratching a million.Yet have been the most destructive,like a virus on the planet.
IMO that's the ego of humans. Always something bigger and better out there and they don't care how it affects the rest of the world. Animals rely on basic instincts and adhere to the laws of nature. All sorts of things have affected the world today but IMO money, greed and ego are mainly to blame.
Cagney
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
We take ,take ,take the planets resources to fuel our greed for crap etc.So short sighted,our decendants will curse us...if they survive.
But we can only learn how to survive from our descendants. For sure, some are all about take, take, take and not giving a shit about anyone else but not everyone is like that. There are a lot of good people who make sacrifices, go without and there are those who do a lot of good and give up their time to help others, so not agreeing with the 'we' part of that, tbh. Bit of a generalisation.
Karma_
Originally Posted by slimfern:
Why don't we deserve to be here ??

There is nothing written to say this how it isn't meant to be.......
I'd say that from the mess we've made of things it's an indicator of why we don't deserve to be here. We've pushed the planet to the limit. We're all feeling safe just now because none of these earthquakes or tsunamis have hit us yet.....YET. It's only a matter of time before something does hit us. I'm not a scientist but even I know we've abused our natural resources and environment and can do nothing to stop it but we can prepare ourselves.
Cagney
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
Slimfern I mean that humans think we are the ultimate creatures on the planet. All things that have happened led to us..arrogance! I  hope we are not.
Am not religious in the slightest Katty - I don't know how we came to be & I don't know how the world is going to turn/end if indeed it does - Yes we are a greedy species - but who can say if this not how it is meant to be ??
It may be painful for us as humans to endure (and it is) but the world evolves & so do we....
slimfern
I do get where katty and cagney are coming from, and agree in some ways, but also agree with Karma and slimfern that not everyone is a nasty piece of work that doesn't give a shit about the planet.  Unfortunately the ones that DON'T give a shit are the powers that be/the superpowers who control the planet.  For instance, I am SURE there must be alternatives to fossil fuels by now, but someone somewhere in control stops it, and we keep mining and digging for oil..... there is this arrogance in 'some' humans though that thinks we are sooooo important, and mother earth is reminding us all that SHE is the boss, not us.
FM
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
I do get where katty and cagney are coming from, and agree in some ways, but also agree with Karma and slimfern that not everyone is a nasty piece of work that doesn't give a shit about the planet.  Unfortunately the ones that DON'T give a shit are the powers that be/the superpowers who control the planet.  For instance, I am SURE there must be alternatives to fossil fuels by now, but someone somewhere in control stops it, and we keep mining and digging for oil..... there is this arrogance in 'some' humans though that thinks we are sooooo important, and mother earth is reminding us all that SHE is the boss, not us.
Don't get me wrong Cupcake....I think most on this planet are good and do care. These aren't the people in power though. These people are always looking for better, faster, cheaper ways of doing things and giving no thought to the consequences. That comes back on all of us too though. We all use the fossil fuels, use aerosols and whatever else makes life easier for us. What gets on my nerves though is that most of us aren't scientists so go by what we see as specialists research and facts. These are the people who maybe not then...but do now know the impact it will have on the planet but yet refuse to take any responsibility. It's all to do with "us". It's not "us" it's "them" who told us it was ok 
Cagney

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