I just heard that....
I did read somewhere yesterday that its those up top who will decide in what order they come out...it'll be the most able first, those can can best describe to the others how they might avoid the potential problems that the capsule might encounter, then the sick. The last up will the strrongest, both physically and in character.
I did read somewhere yesterday that its those up top who will decide in what order they come out...it'll be the most able first, those can can best describe to the others how they might avoid the potential problems that the capsule might encounter, then the sick. The last up will the strrongest, both physically and in character.
Have you seen that capsule they have to come out in? They say they could be in it for a time while they are winched up. Just thinking about it makes me claustrophobic.
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Have you seen that capsule they have to come out in? They say they could be in it for a time while they are winched up. Just thinking about it makes me claustrophobic.
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I'm just hoping nothing goes wrong, I so want to see them out and safe 
An article in today's Guardian gives high praise to the miners' shift leader, Luis "Lucho" Urzua.
As leader he rose to the occasion, dividing the men into 3 groups and created a sense of purpose for each man.
It is now being suggested on BBC News that Luis Urzua wishes to be the last man out - rather like a ships captain.
As leader he rose to the occasion, dividing the men into 3 groups and created a sense of purpose for each man.
It is now being suggested on BBC News that Luis Urzua wishes to be the last man out - rather like a ships captain.
Good for him....and he probably will be!
They'll need a calming influence in there till the last once it all gets underway.
They'll need a calming influence in there till the last once it all gets underway.
They should have finished lining it with steel tubes by tomorrow.
i find this all very humbling and puts personal problems into the minuscule priority where they belong - really brave men
I've started to follow this more closely on the news now (although I'm getting most of the latest from here) - but imagine how those men feel if they know they are that close to seeing daylight again? I wonder what's kept them going? The thought that at any time they could be rescued or were they told it would be ages before anything could be done?
Actually - why has it taken so long?
Actually - why has it taken so long?
I hope they are all rescued safely.It 's pissing me off a bit that the news seems to "want" things to go wrong etc,
Anyone who knows me will tell you I'm hardly little miss optimistic sunshine at the best of times but the media even do my nut in with stuff like this. Fine, let people know about the possible complications, but they deliver good news like they're reading a speech at a funeral 
For once I'm looking forward to watching the news tomorrow morning (Wed) when they start to bring the miners up 
Apparently it will take 20 minutes to to come to the top of the shaft, I bet it's the longest but best 20 minutes of their life. Good Luck to them all and everyone involved in the Operation.
Apparently it will take 20 minutes to to come to the top of the shaft, I bet it's the longest but best 20 minutes of their life. Good Luck to them all and everyone involved in the Operation.
The possible release creeps closer and closer.
This storey is so involving. And amazing.
I dread to consider some of the trauma which may follow.
It will be amazing to see release for them.
This storey is so involving. And amazing.
I dread to consider some of the trauma which may follow.
It will be amazing to see release for them.
The BBC News channel is due to start broadcasting the release all day starting from midnight tonight when the attempt to rescue the first man is due to start then.
The miners have been put into 3 categories. The first category to be released are those most experienced. The reason for this is that if a problem arises during the first few escapes, those with most experience will be best able to deal with this. The second category are those who need medical attention. The third category are the strongest (probably both in a physical and mental state) as they are the most able to deal with being the last to go.
Although they say that it will take about 15 minutes for each man to ascend the tunnel, that does not mean that the whole operation will be over in 33 x 15 minutes (just over 8 hours). It will take a lot longer than that as each man has to be readied with a special harness before getting into the capsule before the capsule can be raised. Then once the capsule reaches the surface, the man has to be released from the capsule and harness and taken to a triage station (where doctors will carry out an initial assessment of the man's medical condition). I would expect that the capsule would need to be examined before it would be lowered again, and then once at the bottom of the tunnel, the process is repeated.
Once the rescued man has beenn checked at the triage station, they will be reunited with their families. After that they will be flown to a hospital at Copiapo for treatment and recovery.
So don't expect all the men to be rescued in a rush. The rescuers will be very cautious and it is not expected that the final rescue will occur until well into Thursday or even Friday.
The miners have been put into 3 categories. The first category to be released are those most experienced. The reason for this is that if a problem arises during the first few escapes, those with most experience will be best able to deal with this. The second category are those who need medical attention. The third category are the strongest (probably both in a physical and mental state) as they are the most able to deal with being the last to go.
Although they say that it will take about 15 minutes for each man to ascend the tunnel, that does not mean that the whole operation will be over in 33 x 15 minutes (just over 8 hours). It will take a lot longer than that as each man has to be readied with a special harness before getting into the capsule before the capsule can be raised. Then once the capsule reaches the surface, the man has to be released from the capsule and harness and taken to a triage station (where doctors will carry out an initial assessment of the man's medical condition). I would expect that the capsule would need to be examined before it would be lowered again, and then once at the bottom of the tunnel, the process is repeated.
Once the rescued man has beenn checked at the triage station, they will be reunited with their families. After that they will be flown to a hospital at Copiapo for treatment and recovery.
So don't expect all the men to be rescued in a rush. The rescuers will be very cautious and it is not expected that the final rescue will occur until well into Thursday or even Friday.
They keeps asking .. Do you know who the last man to leave will be?
Why is this the most important question at the moment?
Why is this the most important question at the moment?
Latest news is that rescue procedure will begin before midnight (our time.)
Chilean TV is saying that specialist rescuers and medical people are already down the mine.
Is it being shown on Sky News Brisket?
I hope they're on time and a half for over time.
Yes Karma - it's on both BBC News channel and Sky News.
They are saying the first miner out will be --
Cheers Brisket
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Chilean TV is saying that specialist rescuers and medical people are already down the mine.
I think that information may have been somewhat premature.
Just heard it's not starting for another 2 hours now. Gawd.
Erm, apparently they haven't actually tested the capsule with anyone in it? I presume they have tested various weights in it or a dummy of some kind but it seems strange.
The reporter said that a paramedic will go down in the first instance and then a miner will come up. He said then another paramedic will go down and another miner up and so on.
I'm hoping he got that bit wrong because isn't that kinda defeating the purpose to be left with 33 trapped paramedics?
Also, why are there 2 rescue capsules?
The reporter said that a paramedic will go down in the first instance and then a miner will come up. He said then another paramedic will go down and another miner up and so on.
I'm hoping he got that bit wrong because isn't that kinda defeating the purpose to be left with 33 trapped paramedics?
Also, why are there 2 rescue capsules?
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Just heard it's not starting for another 2 hours now. Gawd.
They are spinning it out for TV. 
What will they get when they get out? Compensation, i doubt it-This is Chile --It will all blow over after this and go back to the unsafe working conditions of countries like this.
The last one won't be out till tomorrow afternoon
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I'm hoping he got that bit wrong because isn't that kinda defeating the purpose to be left with 33 trapped paramedics? Also, why are there 2 rescue capsules?
The 2nd capsule is probaly to get the 33 trapped medics back up?? Reference:
They are spinning it out for TV.
Akin to the Jeremy Kyle 'all important DNA results'? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Jeremy Kyle appeared after the first few are out, sat down on a bit of granite and started screaming at them for not paying child support for the last 2 months. Then he could wheel out Our Lord and Master font of all knowledge oracle Graham to give them advice on granite lung addiction or summat.
How do you turn a duck into a soul singer?
Put it in the microwave until it's Bill Withers.
Put it in the microwave until it's Bill Withers.
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Akin to the Jeremy Kyle 'all important DNA results'? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Jeremy Kyle appeared after the first few are out, sat down on a bit of granite and started screaming at them for not paying child support for the last 2 months. Then he could wheel out Our Lord and Master font of all knowledge oracle Graham to give them advice on granite lung addiction or summat.
As desperate as the situation is this is another example of third world countries trying to make big bucks with low paid workers working in extreme and unsafe conditions, The owners of this mine will be seen as heroes after this for the rescue, but this should never have happened in the first place. Cheap labour for max profit. Reference:
The 2nd capsule is probaly to get the 33 trapped medics back up??
OMG the BBC news correspondent was just COMPLAINING because someone who has been a fundamental part of the whole rescue operation is able to sleep in a camper van, when poor old journo has to sleep in a tent. My heart bleeds for the very highly paid, healthy, well dressed poor bastard who's just standing around reading an autocue and doesn't have the lives of 33 people resting in his hands. *BIG ROLLY EYES*
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How do you turn a duck into a soul singer? Put it in the microwave until it's Bill Withers.
You need to open a Joke thread. This is life or death stuff here.Reference:
The owners of this mine will be seen as heroes after this for the rescue, but this should never have happened in the first place
*Does Ricky Lake guest rolly head pointy finger thing and changes name to Lahanekawanwalaqueisha for 2 minutes* Shoulda woulda couldas are redundant now, honeybee!Reference:
You need to open a Joke thread. This is life or death stuff here.
The miners have been sending a "dirty joke of the day" to the surface for some time now. I'm entering into the spirit.
There will probably be only 2 or 3 medics going down.
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OMG the BBC news correspondent was just COMPLAINING because someone who has been a fundamental part of the whole rescue operation is able to sleep in a camper van, when poor old journo has to sleep in a tent. My heart bleeds for the very highly paid, healthy, well dressed poor bastard who's just standing around reading an autocue and doesn't have the lives of 33 people resting in his hands. *BIG ROLLY EYES*
This is all a big farce on the behalf of the Chilean govt. All this TV coverage is giving presedence to the President of Chile... Hoping this will cover up the inadequases of the safety and conditions of the miners. Wonder how many miners have been lost before and not be recorded as this one has?? Hundreds i may suspect. I just hope this issue brings to light the apalling conditions and safety issues these workers have to endure. I bet 100% a government official has been sent down there before recovery to ensure they keep schtum about work related stuff. 
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The owners of this mine will be seen as heroes after this for the rescue
You're misinformed as usual WMD.Mine owners
In addition, I believe the families of the miners are now involved in a group litigation of the company for not fulfilling the H&S laws in Chile.