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I've just watched the video again. Have to say if Lisa came in my face poking her fingers and waving her hands around like that to me, effing and jeffing and calling, she'd be 'dealt' with...

gettit gettit.. meh..

In all seriousness.. she can't possibly behave like that in RL.. surely.. unless she likes being put into the ground..
tupps
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Originally posted by Azure:
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
well done Lisa....she's gone up in my estimation for taking Bea and her twatty twosome on Thumbs Up

and me, the arrogant smugs have goaded and goaded, knowing that Lisa and Freddie ar'nt articulate, do not have the paid for public schooling as the smug aholes have had the benefit of, we cant all be clever, we wer'nt all born with a silver spoon in our gobs and we are'nt all scheming, devious lying Beatch's


Wow you sound just like Lisa! Laugh Laugh
Scotty
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
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Originally posted by Moomin:
Don't really like any of them that were involved in this any more, but that transcript is definitely biased on the side of Freddie.


Yeah because we all know what a sweetheart Lisa is Sick


Whether Lisa is the spawn of Satan or not, it doesn't change the fact that the transcript is biased.



Nod Agree
grannyg
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Originally posted by tupps:
I've just watched the video again. Have to say if Lisa came in my face poking her fingers and waving her hands around like that to me, effing and jeffing and calling, she'd be 'dealt' with...

gettit gettit.. meh..

In all seriousness.. she can't possibly behave like that in RL.. surely.. unless she likes being put into the ground..


China`s not around these days but he knows her personally. He said she`s the same in RL. Eeker
Scotty
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by tupps:
I've just watched the video again. Have to say if Lisa came in my face poking her fingers and waving her hands around like that to me, effing and jeffing and calling, she'd be 'dealt' with...

gettit gettit.. meh..

In all seriousness.. she can't possibly behave like that in RL.. surely.. unless she likes being put into the ground..


China`s not around these days but he knows her personally. He said she`s the same in RL. Eeker


Jesus.. I bet casualty know her really well.. Laugh
tupps
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Originally posted by grannyg:
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
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Originally posted by Moomin:
Don't really like any of them that were involved in this any more, but that transcript is definitely biased on the side of Freddie.


Yeah because we all know what a sweetheart Lisa is Sick


Whether Lisa is the spawn of Satan or not, it doesn't change the fact that the transcript is biased.



Nod Agree


Seconded Thumbs Up Big Grin
Baz
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Originally posted by Baz:
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Originally posted by grannyg:
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
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Originally posted by Moomin:
Don't really like any of them that were involved in this any more, but that transcript is definitely biased on the side of Freddie.


Yeah because we all know what a sweetheart Lisa is Sick


Whether Lisa is the spawn of Satan or not, it doesn't change the fact that the transcript is biased.



Nod Agree


Seconded Thumbs Up Big Grin


Watch the video then.
If you can't see that it was Lisa that was the aggressive one,resorting to swearing and personal attack.
I honestly don't know how your minds must work.
Suzy
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by tupps:
I've just watched the video again. Have to say if Lisa came in my face poking her fingers and waving her hands around like that to me, effing and jeffing and calling, she'd be 'dealt' with...

gettit gettit.. meh..

In all seriousness.. she can't possibly behave like that in RL.. surely.. unless she likes being put into the ground..


China`s not around these days but he knows her personally. He said she`s the same in RL. Eeker


Jesus.. I bet casualty know her really well.. Laugh


Laugh Repeated treatments on the poking finger. Laugh
Scotty
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Originally posted by Baz:

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Originally posted by Moomin:
Don't really like any of them that were involved in this any more, but that transcript is definitely biased on the side of Freddie.


Yeah because we all know what a sweetheart Lisa is Sick


Whether Lisa is the spawn of Satan or not, it doesn't change the fact that the transcript is biased.[/QUOTE]


Nod Agree[/QUOTE]

Seconded Thumbs Up Big Grin[/QUOTE]

Do we see anything wrong with the sentence being quoted? Big Grin
squiggle
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Originally posted by Suzy:
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Originally posted by Baz:
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Originally posted by grannyg:
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
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Originally posted by Moomin:
Don't really like any of them that were involved in this any more, but that transcript is definitely biased on the side of Freddie.


Yeah because we all know what a sweetheart Lisa is Sick


Whether Lisa is the spawn of Satan or not, it doesn't change the fact that the transcript is biased.



Nod Agree


Seconded Thumbs Up Big Grin


Watch the video then.
If you can't see that it was Lisa that was the aggressive one,resorting to swearing and personal attack.
I honestly don't know how your minds must work.


Well said Suzy but if you don't want to see something then I guess you just won't see it.
squiggle
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Originally posted by Suzy:
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Originally posted by Baz:
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Originally posted by grannyg:
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
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Originally posted by Moomin:
Don't really like any of them that were involved in this any more, but that transcript is definitely biased on the side of Freddie.


Yeah because we all know what a sweetheart Lisa is Sick


Whether Lisa is the spawn of Satan or not, it doesn't change the fact that the transcript is biased.



Nod Agree


Seconded Thumbs Up Big Grin


Watch the video then.
If you can't see that it was Lisa that was the aggressive one,resorting to swearing and personal attack.
I honestly don't know how your minds must work.


Sorry, but I was commenting on the transcript, not on the video. But, in essence, I am afraid that it also a fallacy to say that the camera a never lies. Having said that, Lisa is a very aggressive person, and not someone I would like to be in a house with.
Baz
Cannot abide Lisa the finger pointing was not nice nor is she ,it was more about Freddie Marcus and Bea ganging up on David that I found more disturbing in the video, Freddie knows how that feels yet he is doing the same thing that was done to him by Lisa and smiling and sneering whilst doing it ,that cant be seen to be right can it..
Marguerita
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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by Moomin:
Don't really like any of them that were involved in this any more, but that transcript is definitely biased on the side of Freddie.


How can the transcript be biased? It's a transcript of what was said by whom.


Exactly Confused

Folk just want to see the worse in the Fredster Disappointed


Nah I don't think so, can only speak for myself , I hate them all equally. All of them have bad points and good points.
TiGi
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Cannot abide Lisa the finger pointing was not nice nor is she ,it was more about Freddie Marcus and Bea ganging up on David that I found more disturbing in the video, Freddie knows how that feels yet he is doing the same thing that was done to him by Lisa and smiling and sneering whilst doing it ,that cant be seen to be right can it..


Freddie wasn't sneering and he only started laughing when Lisa called the public arseholes.

People are so desperate to give Freddie a bashing they'll latch onto any old shite, even make stuff up. Face it, he's an all round decent fella.
The Guru
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Originally posted by The Guru:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Cannot abide Lisa the finger pointing was not nice nor is she ,it was more about Freddie Marcus and Bea ganging up on David that I found more disturbing in the video, Freddie knows how that feels yet he is doing the same thing that was done to him by Lisa and smiling and sneering whilst doing it ,that cant be seen to be right can it..


Freddie wasn't sneering and he only started laughing when Lisa called the public arseholes.

People are so desperate to give Freddie a bashing they'll latch onto any old shite, even make stuff up. Face it, he's an all round decent fella.


I think all HMs get a bashing every now and again, not just Freddie. Look at Lisa & Noirin, people go on about them all day Crazy
MrMincePie
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Originally posted by The Guru:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Cannot abide Lisa the finger pointing was not nice nor is she ,it was more about Freddie Marcus and Bea ganging up on David that I found more disturbing in the video, Freddie knows how that feels yet he is doing the same thing that was done to him by Lisa and smiling and sneering whilst doing it ,that cant be seen to be right can it..


Freddie wasn't sneering and he only started laughing when Lisa called the public arseholes.

People are so desperate to give Freddie a bashing they'll latch onto any old shite, even make stuff up. Face it, he's an all round decent fella.

See now having no great fondness for Halfwit I saw the very same thing. She called the public (us) arseholes, and he knew she had cooked her own goose, in her own fat. So to speak, to coin a phrase! Crazy
FM
Just goes to show how we all see it different ways..

I don't see 'ganging up'.. and if it is to be levelled at one group then it should be levelled at the other. Look at David's body language and expressions.. look at Freddies.. who is doing the neck snapping, who is glaring, who is putting their arms around another HM and marking territory. Who brings in another HM (Lisa the Borehamwood Barker) when he is backed into a corner with his BS... who, if you notice, only starts flapping her gums with any real conviction when there is a suggestion that she and Dave are doing the whole isolation technique again.

Interestingly enough no-one has yet mentioned that it was DAVE and not anyone else who started the whole argument ball rolling. Freddie makes a general comment about gameplans and David is quick to jump on it and make it about himself. Butter anyone..?

Those two (Lisa and David) are peas in a pod.. they're both snidey ****ers who can't hold it together when their BS is called out. Their lack of skill when it comes to arguing their point does not come into it.. they have both shown they can be quite descriptive when they're bitching together on their bench.. nahhhh, what it is is that they are incapable of owning their shit let alone defending it.
tupps
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Originally posted by The Guru:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Cannot abide Lisa the finger pointing was not nice nor is she ,it was more about Freddie Marcus and Bea ganging up on David that I found more disturbing in the video, Freddie knows how that feels yet he is doing the same thing that was done to him by Lisa and smiling and sneering whilst doing it ,that cant be seen to be right can it..


Freddie wasn't sneering and he only started laughing when Lisa called the public arseholes.

People are so desperate to give Freddie a bashing they'll latch onto any old shite, even make stuff up. Face it, he's an all round decent fella.


In your opinion Wink Big Grin
Baz
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by The Guru:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Cannot abide Lisa the finger pointing was not nice nor is she ,it was more about Freddie Marcus and Bea ganging up on David that I found more disturbing in the video, Freddie knows how that feels yet he is doing the same thing that was done to him by Lisa and smiling and sneering whilst doing it ,that cant be seen to be right can it..


Freddie wasn't sneering and he only started laughing when Lisa called the public arseholes.

People are so desperate to give Freddie a bashing they'll latch onto any old shite, even make stuff up. Face it, he's an all round decent fella.


I think all HMs get a bashing every now and again, not just Freddie. Look at Lisa & Noirin, people go on about them all day Crazy


Great, i wasn't saying Freddie can do no wrong, i just don't see how people can say he was sneering, smug and laughing in her face, with it all down to a class/education prejudice.

He argued his case, she ranted, called the public arseholes, he laughed. The end.
The Guru
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Originally posted by Tiddly~Wink:
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Originally posted by The Guru:
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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Cannot abide Lisa the finger pointing was not nice nor is she ,it was more about Freddie Marcus and Bea ganging up on David that I found more disturbing in the video, Freddie knows how that feels yet he is doing the same thing that was done to him by Lisa and smiling and sneering whilst doing it ,that cant be seen to be right can it..


Freddie wasn't sneering and he only started laughing when Lisa called the public arseholes.

People are so desperate to give Freddie a bashing they'll latch onto any old shite, even make stuff up. Face it, he's an all round decent fella.

See now having no great fondness for Halfwit I saw the very same thing. She called the public (us) arseholes, and he knew she had cooked her own goose, in her own fat. So to speak, to coin a phrase! Crazy


Big Grin That`s exactly what he was laughing at...how could anyone be so stupid as to say that when it`s the GBP who vote? Laugh

And yes Guru, Freddie didn`t sneer at all.
I can`t stand the sight of Lisa but I wouldn`t invent things that she didn`t do.
Scotty
Ermmm.... just for the record, I didn't say that the argument was the fault of either side, I didn't say I thought that Freddie was bad, or Lisa was good. I didn't say that the dialogue wasn't true to what was said.

I just thought the style in which the article was written was unusually biased.

I'm not against people who speak well, or people with regional accents, and I am not a snob, or an inverted snob.

I really wish I cared enough about any of the hm's to roll up my sleeves and get stuck in, but I don't.

It was just the tone of the article in the OP that bugged me.

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Dirtyprettygirlthing
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saw the videos Freddie and Marcus laughing as soon as it was announced they were all up that is the reason Rodrigo had a go at Marcus,good on him, ,the other video of Freddie having a go at David with the back up of Marcus and Bea was horrible ,Lisa then had her say what she thought of Freddie I wont stick up for her ,Freddie was very smug sat there saying David had a game plan if he had a gameplan he would not have befriended Lisa knowing the public dont like her,they are no better than Lisa and co were to Freddie lisa is smug and obnoxious just like Freddie is now,Freddie was laughing and sneering at David I would have thought he would have known better after it was done to him by Lisa and co.



Well Said Marg.
WILDER X
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Ermmm.... just for the record, I didn't say that the argument was the fault of either side, I didn't say I thought that Freddie was bad, or Lisa was good. I didn't say that the dialogue wasn't true to what was said.

I just thought the style in which the article was written was unusually biased.

I'm not against people who speak well, or people with regional accents, and I am not a snob, or an inverted snob.

I really wish I cared enough about any of the hm's to roll up my sleeves and get stuck in, but I don't.

It was just the tone of the article in the OP that bugged me.

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Same here Ditty. Even when words are written verbatim, the emphasis's can make all the difference, as can the commentary, e.g. "(But doesn't that defeat what you're saying Dave?)" or..."(wonder why?)." or (Well said).
Baz
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Originally posted by Perones:
Did anyone else find it odd that BB included Marcus's removal of the mirror as part of the reason to put all the HM's up for eviction? I can see the link with Siavash's 'non-nominating' stance - as this was to do with nominations...seemed a little odd to me, unusual of BB.


Oh!, Oh!... I love your avatar.... Adam Ant at his hottest! *swoon* Big Grin

Dunno about the mirror thing, sorry! Big Grin
Dirtyprettygirlthing
It all started when nominations were revealed and some of the housemates took the result badly. Lisa didn't look happy that she was up at all...

Then Sophie and Rodrigo started having a go at Marcus for breaking the rules but Marcus and Freddie just laughed it off - the argument was silly. Lots of people in the house had said 'vote for me' and been chastised, Sophie being one of them.

Freddie was happy that everyone was up and thought it was fair. He thought some of the housemates reactions were "funny".

He smiled, "I find it funny, everyone's had game-plans."

David: "I've not broken one rule... What game-plan have I got? I came in here and made friends with people, that's it."

Freddie: "well no, everyone but Marcus and Bea."

David: "Yeah, because I don't want to be friends with them."

Freddie: "you're special friends with Lisa and you know how she acted because you saw the show before hand."

David: "So you think I've got a gameplan just because I'm friends with someone?"

Freddie: "No, I think it's a gameplan because you're isolating people specifically so they'll be nominated."

David: "I've made genuine friends in here that I'll take out of the house." He started to look a little stressed and added, "I don't have to justify myself to you anyway because I don't give a s**t what you think!"

Freddie: "Arrr Dave... I'm sure some of your friendships are like that but.."

David: "I've got a lot of friends on the outside, you can accuse me of having a gameplan you've said in many times to other people in the house and obviously I 'ant... and even if I did I wouldn't admit it to YOU anyway!"

Freddie: "I'm not an idiot and the people watching this are not idiots either. It's very transparent, we're not all fools in this house."

David: "That's alright 'mate' you're entitled to your opinion. I've not come in here with a gameplan at all, I've come in here to make genuine friends. If you can't see that then you are a very very bad judge of character."

Bea: "But we were geniune friends and then you accused me of saying something about you that I didn't say."

David: "Because I've worked you out. I saw what you're like and that's not someone I want to be mates with."

Freddie: "Yea, 'cause your opinions are your own..."

Bea: "How am I like?"
David ignores her...
She asks again, "how am I like..?"
She waits, "what am I like?"

David: "Well I don't want to get into this again because 'you' take a small problem and..."

Marcus: "Why you said it?" He won't let David dodge the question... "Come on spit it out! You can't start a situation... spit it out."

Bea: "I geniunely don't know why you've started disliking me."

David: "Where do you want me to start?"

Bea: "Start here, tell me..."

David: "The secret mission... The accusations of stealing bread and cheese..."

Bea: "I didn't 'accuse' you of stealing anything though."

LISA ENTERS THE ROOM HERE:


David: "He's (Freddie) accusing me and everybody of having a gameplan now.."

Freddie: "No mainly you two but other people have gone along with it."

Lisa: "The public need to see that you're a ****. What do you think? What because people have come in and says to you, because people have come in here and says to you 'Halfwit you might be winnin' it' you're the cocky confident? You think you're so cocky. You think you're not going?"

Lisa was shaking her finger right in Freddie's face. Even when the camera shot to a close-up you could still see her finger! At one point Bea looks concerned by this but Freddie tells her it's alright...

Freddie is sat down and Lisa stands over him and shouts, "Do you think you're not going? The public might turn around and say get you out! They're obviously a**eholes, they want to get you out - You're the idiot!"

Freddie laughs as he realises Lisa's just called the public 'a**eholes. "Oh I love it!"

Lisa: "GET OUT! Just ignore him!"
David: "I'm coming!"

Lisa guides him out the door and shouts to Freddie, "You're such an idiot, go and have a w***!"

Later, Freddie talks to Siavash in the garden... "You open the gates of truth. Everyone's been exposed!"

David calmed down in the bedroom while Lisa raged to anyone who'd listen in the lounge. "I don't want anything to do with Halfwit. He's cocky. He's a little ****."

All hints of 'bias' removed, and it still reads the same...
disley21
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
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Originally posted by Perones:
Did anyone else find it odd that BB included Marcus's removal of the mirror as part of the reason to put all the HM's up for eviction? I can see the link with Siavash's 'non-nominating' stance - as this was to do with nominations...seemed a little odd to me, unusual of BB.


Oh!, Oh!... I love your avatar.... Adam Ant at his hottest! *swoon* Big Grin

Dunno about the mirror thing, sorry! Big Grin


lol - he was cool wasn't he Nod Cool my name's also an old nickname of mine albeit spelt wrong of Marco Pironi the guitarist..as I was a mad Ant fan and his first name is a bit like my RL first name Ninja
Perones
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Originally posted by Perones:
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
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Originally posted by Perones:
Did anyone else find it odd that BB included Marcus's removal of the mirror as part of the reason to put all the HM's up for eviction? I can see the link with Siavash's 'non-nominating' stance - as this was to do with nominations...seemed a little odd to me, unusual of BB.


Oh!, Oh!... I love your avatar.... Adam Ant at his hottest! *swoon* Big Grin

Dunno about the mirror thing, sorry! Big Grin


lol - he was cool wasn't he Nod Cool my name's also an old nickname of mine albeit spelt wrong of Marco Pironi the guitarist..as I was a mad Ant fan and his first name is a bit like my RL first name Ninja


Big Grin I knew that! (Marco, Merrick, Terry Lee, Gary Tibbs n Yours Truly!) I was a mental Adam Ant fan too! He was my first crush! First single I ever bought was Antmusic.

I have two kids now aged 11 & 16, and they love him too!
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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All hints of 'bias' removed, and it still reads the same..


But I don't think it quite does Disley. Your version allows the reader to draw their own conclusions... the former version points the reader in the direction the commentator wants them to go.... It's a subtle difference I will grant you, but it is still there... IMO Big Grin
Baz
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:


Big Grin I knew that! (Marco, Merrick, Terry Lee, Gary Tibbs n Yours Truly!) I was a mental Adam Ant fan too! He was my first crush! First single I ever bought was Antmusic.

I have two kids now aged 11 & 16, and they love him too!


lol cool Thumbs Up pmsl I've got that tune in my head now "Marco, Merrick, Terry Lee, Gary Tibbs n Yours Truly..from the norty north to sexy south we're all singing......"
Perones
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Originally posted by Perones:
Did anyone else find it odd that BB included Marcus's removal of the mirror as part of the reason to put all the HM's up for eviction? I can see the link with Siavash's 'non-nominating' stance - as this was to do with nominations...seemed a little odd to me, unusual of BB.


I thought it was for trying to influence nominations - i.e. telling them he wouldn't mind going home this week, just before they go in to nominate.

He got jail time for the mirror thing. Glance
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by Azure:
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
well done Lisa....she's gone up in my estimation for taking Bea and her twatty twosome on Thumbs Up

and me, the arrogant smugs have goaded and goaded, knowing that Lisa and Freddie ar'nt articulate, do not have the paid for public schooling as the smug aholes have had the benefit of, we cant all be clever, we wer'nt all born with a silver spoon in our gobs and we are'nt all scheming, devious lying Beatch's


What a diatribe of class prejudice!

Just because people are well-spoken and use long words doesn't make them arrogant.

Just because people have a private education doesn't make them arrogant and not all those in private education were born with silver spoons in their mouths.

The arrogant one in the house, is Lisa. And the one who is the scheming, devious biatch, is Lisa.
jennywren

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