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Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Karma_:
 

I've seen similar rumours about people travelling from all over the country to Brum tonight.

 

Kill a black every night? So they didn't see that white people were looting too? FFS

Perhaps it was a black man that deliberately drove into them and murdered them.

yep, so they say..who bloody knows though?

pirate1111

Posted this earlier

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/...eblogging-the-riots/

05.58PM: Birmingham Riots Tumblr is carrying what it says is “an exact transcript” of a BBM and text floating around Birmingham this afternoon.

“everyman keep off the road tonight, Birmingham is going to be madness, people from london, leicester, derby, manchester to f**k up birmingham of them 3 asian guys that got killed in winson green there coming to riot hard and i don’t want no one to lose their life because of it, stay in your yards and pass this on”

FM
Originally Posted by Karma_:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by MrMincePie:

First rioters to be jailed, 10 weeks & 16 weeks.... Should be more than that.

 

 

And those who set fires are likely to get a light sentence, surely if theres flats above those shops that were set on fire, it should actually go down as attempted murder?

Some magistrate's courts are sending them to the Crown courts for sestencing because magistrates can only give a maximum of 6 nonths, apparently, while the Crown Courts can give up to TEN years.

Also I heard that there are over 2,000 places available in prisons in England and Wales - hope they're all filled very soon!

Eh? Mag can sentence up to 2 years Crown can sentence life. And regardless of space, the prisons will find them..6 to a cell if they have to.

Well, that's what it said in an article I read earlier.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Karma_:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

its kicking off in brum-and mates bro-a cop-has just text saying police have heard rumours that asian community are threatening to kill three blacks everynight in revenge for the asian lads that were in the hit and run early this morning

he's told us to stay in!

so, in brum it appears not to be about looting/rioting anymore

 

I've seen similar rumours about people travelling from all over the country to Brum tonight.

 

Kill a black every night? So they didn't see that white people were looting too? FFS

Are they not maybe talking about who was in the car? Not that I can be 100% sure if it actually mentioned the skin colour of the driver.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

I've missed loads of this thread as been with DIL and grandlings all day. I'm a bit out of todays loop - sorry!

Evening all

 

Whoever said up there ^^^^^^ that Magistrates can sentence for 2 years; is that a change then? As I've always thought that they could only sentence up to 6 months and that anything more serious had to be referred to Crown.

I know that there have been loads of changes but that one must have slipped me by. Also, they have already sentenced some of the rioters? Was that for this weeks offences or were they on licence for other stuff and it's been revoked?

Seems very, very quick to get them charged, at court and sentenced

FM
Originally Posted by Syd:

Sad sad sad...........we are going backwards...this is going to go on now.....

I can't see what will bring an end to it TBH. I worry for the people of Birmingham ...................the death of three Asian young men - I don't think that will be left to lie ........the repercussions and retaliation is worrying as is the emergence of far right groups taking to the street elsewhere. What started off as looting could snowball into something bigger. Worrying times ahead IMO.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:

I've missed loads of this thread as been with DIL and grandlings all day. I'm a bit out of todays loop - sorry!

Evening all

 

Whoever said up there ^^^^^^ that Magistrates can sentence for 2 years; is that a change then? As I've always thought that they could only sentence up to 6 months and that anything more serious had to be referred to Crown.

I know that there have been loads of changes but that one must have slipped me by. Also, they have already sentenced some of the rioters? Was that for this weeks offences or were they on licence for other stuff and it's been revoked?

Seems very, very quick to get them charged, at court and sentenced

From WIKI:

. Magistrates can only sentence for six months for one offence and twelve months consecutively, they can also give a maximum of a ÂĢ5,000 fine; community orders which can include curfews, electronic tagging, requirements to perform unpaid work up to 300 hours or supervision up to three years and or various other options. Magistrates hear committal proceedings for certain offences, and can establish whether sufficient evidence exists to pass the case to a higher court for trial and sentencing. In more serious cases, magistrates have power to pass 'either-way' offenders to the Crown Court for sentencing when, in the opinion of the magistrates, a penalty greater than can be given in the magistrates' court is warranted. A wide range of other legal matters are within the remit of magistrates.

 

There have been a couple of rioters at court today, they got sentences of 10 and 16 weeks, (I think). Looks like they are going to whizz this lot through the system.

Edit: forgot to say Hi Veggie.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Syd:

Sad sad sad...........we are going backwards...this is going to go on now.....

true

and the only person that has spoke with dignity, without ranting and raving, the bloke who's son got mowed down in brum

they should give him a megaphone and let him shout to the little shits who are going to kill people in his sons name

ive not seen a more sensible person in all of this crap thats going on

pirate1111
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Syd:

Sad sad sad...........we are going backwards...this is going to go on now.....

true

and the only person that has spoke with dignity, without ranting and raving, the bloke who's son got mowed down in brum

they should give him a megaphone and let him shout to the little shits who are going to kill people in his sons name

ive not seen a more sensible person in all of this crap thats going on

I cried at the dignified way he spoke about his 21 year old son, and felt the love and respect he had for him................I will stand up with him and his intelligent words in the throws of grief....

Syd
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Syd:

Sad sad sad...........we are going backwards...this is going to go on now.....

true

and the only person that has spoke with dignity, without ranting and raving, the bloke who's son got mowed down in brum

they should give him a megaphone and let him shout to the little shits who are going to kill people in his sons name

ive not seen a more sensible person in all of this crap thats going on

FM

Thanks Yogi

I find the whole into court and dealt with really perplexing. I wouldn't mind betting that within a few months some smart mouth lawyer will have sued the Govt citing lack of due process or summat and these so and so's will be getting compensation payouts.

Which they would be entitled to if justice has been steamrollered - no matter how sick it would make most of us feel.

We can't allow them to panic us into ignoring the tenets of our justice system - or we all lose

FM

I see Baroness Warsi, the Tories' token Asian, spouting the usual lazy guff about a broken society and responsibility.

 

FFS, it's her party that wanted to cut sentences, cut police and have stoked all this up.  It's her party that is the most materialist of parties and the party that said there was no such thing as society.

 

She's now trying to blame Labour for a generation of rioters. Pathetic!

 

She's a bloody moron, she thinks (or rather would like the viewer to think) a politician wagging their finger about social responsibility is going to stop people rioting.

 

The same bunch of crooks that have been exposed as on ubiquitously on the fiddle and a PM who is a former member of a drinking/vandalising club for silver spooned yobs.

Carnelian

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