quote:Originally posted by Flossie:
Anyway, I am off to bed before the idiocy before me riles me to the point where I foam at the mouth and bite the carpet.
Night
Stick to grass, eh
Night
Stick to grass, eh
We were!quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by stupidcupid:
Like wise!
This forum must go down as the most insipid and insignificant in history.
( yes I know why am I still here lol}
Were we meant to be aiming for significance?
I thought we were just waffling, 2 sets of waffle...with a bit of pointing and laughing on either side.
When is the Women of the Year Awards?
I shall look forward to that discussion also!
I shall look forward to that discussion also!
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Blizzie
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When is the Women of the Year Awards?
I shall
quote:When is the Women of the Year Awards?
I shall look forward to that discussion also!
blizzie, International women's day is 8th March so you've a bit of a wait for that one
quote:Originally posted by vrmaryport:
blizzie, International women's day is 8th March so you've a bit of a wait for that one
Oh no, that's a different one.
Women, eh?
I want to know the results now.
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
If we are to live in a multicultural society then anything that allows only one part of the community to enter should be illegal.
Being in the minority should not give you the right to exclude the majority and vice versa.
Being in the minority should not give you the right to exclude the majority and vice versa.
get over it
there probs wudnt be a diversity award if it wasnt for the fact they didnt stand a chance of winning anythin in mainstream
some of u sound like kanye west tut
give others a chance
there probs wudnt be a diversity award if it wasnt for the fact they didnt stand a chance of winning anythin in mainstream
some of u sound like kanye west tut
give others a chance
quote:Originally posted by luxor:
If we are to live in a multicultural society then anything that allows only one part of the community to enter should be illegal.
Being in the minority should not give you the right to exclude the majority and vice versa.
exactly.i'm a british subject and thats all i want to be, not gay british or indian british or non white british, i'm just british.
quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
get over it
there probs wudnt be a diversity award if it wasnt for the fact they didnt stand a chance of winning anythin in mainstream
some of u sound like kanye west tut
give others a chance
So you don't mind discrimination then?
I warn you there the latent discrimination against people with sleeveless t-shirts would come to the fore if not suppressed.
If multiculturalism means treating all cultures equally irrespective of the majority-minority power relationships, the systematic discrimination that we know exists, and the differing cultural opportunities available then promoting role models and highlighting achievements like this is wrong.
Of course, the consequences of considering equality issues as being about equality of treatment instead of equality of opportunity may not be to everyone's liking when they pan out. Disaffected youths in various parts of the country, social tension, rising crime, and so on.
Of course, the consequences of considering equality issues as being about equality of treatment instead of equality of opportunity may not be to everyone's liking when they pan out. Disaffected youths in various parts of the country, social tension, rising crime, and so on.
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by Flossie:
Not formally it hasn't, and even if it had been informally, which it hasn't, that is still no excuse for doing generating some new injustice as some sort of compensation for old injustices.
Amir Khan belongs to the boxing community, he's British, he's English, he's from Bolton...he from Pakistani origins.
I see no reason why he can't be a role model for any/all of those communities at any given time. He wins summat from the people of Bolton, doesn't mean he isn't still a boxer. He wins summat for GB...doesn't mean he isn't still a North Westerner. He's allowed to belong to all groups at once whilst moving through the others whenever he feels like it or is singled out for praise.
And now you're gonna tell me it makes no sense but it did in my head
None of the above has anything to do with excluding people based on skin colour.
If Bolton wishes to celebrate the chappy then fine. How would feel if Bolton decided to celebrate a person who had to be white?
You can't break the universally applicability of rules for some worthy aim without compromising principles.
quote:Originally posted by Flossie:quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
get over it
there probs wudnt be a diversity award if it wasnt for the fact they didnt stand a chance of winning anythin in mainstream
some of u sound like kanye west tut
give others a chance
So you don't mind discrimination then?
I warn you there the latent discrimination against people with sleeveless t-shirts would come to the fore if not suppressed.
ur so jelous of my deltoids aint u
quote:Originally posted by Flossie:
So you don't mind discrimination then?
Flossie, in a truly equal and diverse society clearly any form of discrimination - I'll refer to positive discrimination as I can't be arsed debating with a proponent of the negative variety right now - would be redundant. Indeed it's pretty offensive to me as well as it clearly is to you.
Yet I'm sure you ain't dumb enough to believe that the world we live in is without ingrained, continuing bigotry and inequality. Hell, I've been brought up on a sexist, classist, racist planet and - much as I'm not aware of it, deeply unaware of it - I'm sure I have subconsciously adopted some of those attitudes. And they would be deeply subconscious in my case. Anyone who chooses to remove themselves from that is disingenuous or a liar. Or just unaware, probably.
Fact is Flossie, in different societies around the world, if you're the wrong colour, the wrong sex, the wrong class etc etc.....you're starting on a down slope.
This is not a flag-waving post for discrimination. It sticks in my craw as much as it seems to do you.
But until you can point at the all too obvious sex glass ceiling and say it doesn't exist, then no, your argument does not hold water.
It's equality of power positions, Flossie. Get that, then you're bang on the money. Until then, no, you ain't.
quote:Originally posted by Flossie:
You can't break the universally applicability of rules for some worthy aim without compromising principles.
You're right there, Flossie.
Just as you should well know that real politic is an ugly salon of ideas in which simplistic analysis like this stands up well in the classroom ..... and fails on the ground.
I wish the world was as simple as you want it to be. It is the way I see it tbh. You are choosing wilful neglect of life on the ground though.
quote:Originally posted by luxor:
If we are to live in a multicultural society then anything that allows only one part of the community to enter should be illegal.
Being in the minority should not give you the right to exclude the majority and vice versa.
Absolutely
quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
The "black" performers in that show were white people "blacked up."
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
The "black" performers in that show were white people "blacked up."
no
i saw them live at the london palladium when i was little, about 5 i think, they were real then
quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
The "black" performers in that show were white people "blacked up."
no
i saw them live at the london palladium when i was little, about 5 i think, they were real then
You have GOT to be on a wind-up
quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
The "black" performers in that show were white people "blacked up."
no
i saw them live at the london palladium when i was little, about 5 i think, they were real then
No they weren`t and have never been Contessa. Diana Ross was on a London Palladium bill with them in the 60`s and was utterly offended.
quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
The "black" performers in that show were white people "blacked up."
no
i saw them live at the london palladium when i was little, about 5 i think, they were real then
You have GOT to be on a wind-up
no, i went with my mum and my aunt, my aunt had given me a doll with a fur lined red velvet dress and i insisted on taking it with me and when i got outa my seat it sprung back and snapped dolly's head right off.
we met al jolson at the end of the show and he was very sympatetic to my dolly's demise.
i named my golliwog after him... i am shocked that i was bamboozled!
Flossie so wants you Jamie!
quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
The "black" performers in that show were white people "blacked up."
no
i saw them live at the london palladium when i was little, about 5 i think, they were real then
You have GOT to be on a wind-up
no, i went with my mum and my aunt, my aunt had given me a doll with a fur lined red velvet dress and i insisted on taking it with me and when i got outa my seat it sprung back and snapped dolly's head right off.
we met al jolson at the end of the show and he was very sympatetic to my dolly's demise.
i named my golliwog after him... i am shocked that i was bamboozled!
PMSL
quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
The "black" performers in that show were white people "blacked up."
no
i saw them live at the london palladium when i was little, about 5 i think, they were real then
You have GOT to be on a wind-up
no, i went with my mum and my aunt, my aunt had given me a doll with a fur lined red velvet dress and i insisted on taking it with me and when i got outa my seat it sprung back and snapped dolly's head right off.
we met al jolson at the end of the show and he was very sympatetic to my dolly's demise.
i named my golliwog after him... i am shocked that i was bamboozled!
@ Contessa...
I had a huge argument with my dad once, about Gay Pride.
He couldn't understand why they had to make a song and dance about it.
I asked him whether he thought it would ever have been needed, if the gay community had never been discriminated against.
He couldn't understand why they had to make a song and dance about it.
I asked him whether he thought it would ever have been needed, if the gay community had never been discriminated against.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
I had a huge argument with my dad once, about Gay Pride.
He couldn't understand why they had to make a song and dance about it.
I asked him whether he thought it would ever have been needed, if the gay community had never been discriminated against.
Oh bizzie, rational argument, whatever are you thinking of. Wait til flossie comes along, he'll try and decimate you with his 'sharp' typing finger.
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
Oh bizzie, rational argument, whatever are you thinking of. Wait til flossie comes along, he'll try and decimate you with his 'sharp' typing finger.
I'm sorry.
It's early!
*** hides from Flossie's finger ***
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
I had a huge argument with my dad once, about Gay Pride.
He couldn't understand why they had to make a song and dance about it.
I asked him whether he thought it would ever have been needed, if the gay community had never been discriminated against.
Oh bizzie, rational argument, whatever are you thinking of. Wait til flossie comes along, he'll try and decimate you with his 'sharp' typing finger.
I thought Flossie's arguments were perfectly rational. In fact I know they were. I just happen to disagree with some of them.
Some of your retorts on the other hand...
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
I had a huge argument with my dad once, about Gay Pride.
He couldn't understand why they had to make a song and dance about it.
I asked him whether he thought it would ever have been needed, if the gay community had never been discriminated against.
Oh bizzie, rational argument, whatever are you thinking of. Wait til flossie comes along, he'll try and decimate you with his 'sharp' typing finger.
you mean just like he decimated you?
there should not be any discrimination to any person or cultures, all live equally no them and us, but that I think is a pipe dream. 
no them and us, but that I think is a pipe dream. 
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
I had a huge argument with my dad once, about Gay Pride.
He couldn't understand why they had to make a song and dance about it.
I asked him whether he thought it would ever have been needed, if the gay community had never been discriminated against.
A bit of a red herring there Lilibet.
At least gay organisations give awards to straights, like Ronaldo for example.
quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
does anyone remember the black and white minstral show?
now that was equality personified! the same number of blacks and whites and the same number of males and females.
The "black" performers in that show were white people "blacked up."
no
i saw them live at the london palladium when i was little, about 5 i think, they were real then
You have GOT to be on a wind-up
no, i went with my mum and my aunt, my aunt had given me a doll with a fur lined red velvet dress and i insisted on taking it with me and when i got outa my seat it sprung back and snapped dolly's head right off.
we met al jolson at the end of the show and he was very sympatetic to my dolly's demise.
i named my golliwog after him... i am shocked that i was bamboozled!
Hahahahahahahahahaha
quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
there should not be any discrimination to any person or cultures, all live equally
but life isn't perfect....quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
A bit of a red herring there Lilibet.
At least gay organisations give awards to straights, like Ronaldo for example.
Would he qualify for Mr Gay UK?
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
A bit of a red herring there Lilibet.
At least gay organisations give awards to straights, like Ronaldo for example.
Would he qualify for Mr Gay UK?
My solicitor has advised me not to make any further comment.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
My solicitor has advised me not to make any further comment.
He/She should be done for soliciting!
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
My solicitor has advised me not to make any further comment.
He/She should be done for soliciting!
She! Lilibet. It was the first thing she said after leaving the shower
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
I had a huge argument with my dad once, about Gay Pride.
He couldn't understand why they had to make a song and dance about it.
I asked him whether he thought it would ever have been needed, if the gay community had never been discriminated against.
I remember the debate on Spyka's about Gay Pride and being told that the 'war' was already won on that issue so we should shut up and get on with being gay quietly and without a fuss.