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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
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Originally posted by charmer:

BBBS Present<- a tin hat for ya mate Big Grin


lol, i'm a mix so it doesnt discriminate against me Wink, i just cant believe its legal.


im a fair old mixed race person-and i know what youre saying-in brum we have similar things ie.day centres for asians-no day centre for white europeans..asian buisness people awards..that sort of stuff
and it can cause bother-but to be honest, it doesnt bother me
no doubt some people will say youre wrong to even question its legality..but..there you go Big Grin
charmer
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Originally posted by charmer:
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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
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Originally posted by charmer:

BBBS Present<- a tin hat for ya mate Big Grin


lol, i'm a mix so it doesnt discriminate against me Wink, i just cant believe its legal.


im a fair old mixed race person-and i know what youre saying-in brum we have similar things ie.day centres for asians-no day centre for white europeans..asian buisness people awards..that sort of stuff
and it can cause bother-but to be honest, it doesnt bother me
no doubt some people will say youre wrong to even question its legality..but..there you go Big Grin

I do if I'm honest. If there's an award for plumbers, I'd go along if I knew one and cheer them on, I wouldn't expect a prize as I'm not a plumber. Smiler
cologne 1
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I do if I'm honest. If there's an award for plumbers, I'd go along if I knew one and cheer them on, I wouldn't expect a prize as I'm not a plumber.


EH?

What's that got to do with the price of fish?

But I agree that the legality of the awards would seem questionable to me....and more than a little bit insulting to the recipients...I'd not like to get an award just because I fitted a certain profile rather than on overall merit.
Croctacus
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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
But I agree that the legality of the awards would seem questionable to me....and more than a little bit insulting to the recipients...I'd not like to get an award just because I fitted a certain profile rather than on overall merit.

The awards are all for exceptional things, just exceptional things where the person getting the award is from an ethnic minority. They have things like Entrepreneur Of The Year and Young Journalist Of The Year.
FM
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Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Isn't it celebrating our multicultural mix, with diversity meaning difference or variety? In this case our various ethnic minorities as distinct from the majority.

how can it be 'multicultural' if one culture is conspicuously absent? Wink

Save your winking. I'm saying it's about ethnic minorities and the majority-minority relationship, not multiculturalism itself.
FM
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
But I agree that the legality of the awards would seem questionable to me....and more than a little bit insulting to the recipients...I'd not like to get an award just because I fitted a certain profile rather than on overall merit.

The awards are all for exceptional things, just exceptional things where the person getting the award is from an ethnic minority. They have things like Entrepreneur Of The Year and Young Journalist Of The Year.



but why single out ethnic minorities? why not have the awards for everybody?
JV
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Isn't it celebrating our multicultural mix, with diversity meaning difference or variety? In this case our various ethnic minorities as distinct from the majority.

how can it be 'multicultural' if one culture is conspicuously absent? Wink

Save your winking. I'm saying it's about ethnic minorities and the majority-minority relationship, not multiculturalism itself.



I don't think things like this help the majority-minority relationship though
JV
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
the bnp have been forced to accept non whites


That's a new one on me. Confused


That's because there seems to be a muddle with fact.

Anti racists activists, some MP's, and the Equal Opportunities commision are challenging and looking into BNP's whites only policy, and thier racist propaganda. No one has "Forced" them to do anything.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
The awards are all for exceptional things, just exceptional things where the person getting the award is from an ethnic minority. They have things like Entrepreneur Of The Year and Young Journalist Of The Year.

but why single out ethnic minorities? why not have the awards for everybody?

Probably because it wouldn't be about the majority-minorities relationship then. Simples.
FM
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
the bnp have been forced to accept non whites


That's a new one on me. Confused


it was in the press last year or early this year i think.
just google white bnp members and it will come up.


*Have a spade*
You are turtelly wrong. Do you people have some sorta pressure group website where you are fed these non-stories?
Garage Joe
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Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
But I agree that the legality of the awards would seem questionable to me....and more than a little bit insulting to the recipients...I'd not like to get an award just because I fitted a certain profile rather than on overall merit.

The awards are all for exceptional things, just exceptional things where the person getting the award is from an ethnic minority. They have things like Entrepreneur Of The Year and Young Journalist Of The Year.



but why single out ethnic minorities? why not have the awards for everybody?


Sorry was in the kitchen...this is what I meant...the other examples are awards based on what you do/have done etc and not on colour which is something you have no control over and therefore is not an achievement,.....I've worded it badly but I know what I mean...
Croctacus
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by ContessaQ:
the bnp have been forced to accept non whites


That's a new one on me. Confused


it was in the press last year or early this year i think.
just google white bnp members and it will come up.


*Have a spade*
You are turtelly wrong. Do you people have some sorta pressure group website where you are fed these non-stories?


it gives links to articles written by the press regarding the bnp having to accept non whites, newspapers like the telegraph.
i do not visit any of your so called pressure group sites.
ContessaQ
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by ContessaQ:
the bnp have been forced to accept non whites


That's a new one on me. Confused


it was in the press last year or early this year i think.
just google white bnp members and it will come up.


*Have a spade*
You are turtelly wrong. Do you people have some sorta pressure group website where you are fed these non-stories?


it gives links to articles written by the press regarding the bnp having to accept non whites, newspapers like the telegraph.
i do not visit any of your so called pressure group sites.


I don't have any pressure group sites but I can now reveal that last year I was at our regional businessperson of the year awards. I can report that there were no members of the employee class outside saying that were bigotted against them.
Garage Joe
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by ContessaQ:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by ContessaQ:
the bnp have been forced to accept non whites


That's a new one on me. Confused


it was in the press last year or early this year i think.
just google white bnp members and it will come up.


*Have a spade*
You are turtelly wrong. Do you people have some sorta pressure group website where you are fed these non-stories?


it gives links to articles written by the press regarding the bnp having to accept non whites, newspapers like the telegraph.
i do not visit any of your so called pressure group sites.


I don't have any pressure group sites but I can now reveal that last year I was at our regional businessperson of the year awards. I can report that there were no members of the employee class outside saying that were bigotted against them.

That's what I meant with my example about the plumbers, which wasn't universally understood. Big Grin
cologne 1
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by ContessaQ:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by ContessaQ:
the bnp have been forced to accept non whites


That's a new one on me. Confused


it was in the press last year or early this year i think.
just google white bnp members and it will come up.


*Have a spade*
You are turtelly wrong. Do you people have some sorta pressure group website where you are fed these non-stories?


it gives links to articles written by the press regarding the bnp having to accept non whites, newspapers like the telegraph.
i do not visit any of your so called pressure group sites.


I don't have any pressure group sites but I can now reveal that last year I was at our regional businessperson of the year awards. I can report that there were no members of the employee class outside saying that were bigotted against them.


yeah but if it had been a white only or black only business person award then it might have caused a few raised eyebrows.
ContessaQ
I think you have to read between the lines about the motivations for this event. They're promoting role models and leaders to inspire members of ethnic minorities in a country where the overwhelming majority are white British.

As ever in these race discussions, I seem to singularly fail to get across that race issues are about relations of power rather than simple ethnic differences. In other words, while a white Brit may experience racist interactions as an individual in Britain, minority to majority racism is not the same as majority to minority racism. It seems glaringly obvious to me but perhaps I'm just odd.
FM
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by ContessaQ:
the bnp have been forced to accept non whites


That's a new one on me. Confused


it was in the press last year or early this year i think.
just google white bnp members and it will come up.


*Have a spade*
You are turtelly wrong. Do you people have some sorta pressure group website where you are fed these non-stories?


it gives links to articles written by the press regarding the bnp having to accept non whites, newspapers like the telegraph.
i do not visit any of your so called pressure group sites.


I don't have any pressure group sites but I can now reveal that last year I was at our regional businessperson of the year awards. I can report that there were no members of the employee class outside saying that were bigotted against them.
ContessaQ
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Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:
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Originally posted by electric6:
I feel dead sorry for the poor oppressed white man. Gotta be real tough for them Crying


I don't think it's about oppression, I think it's about double-standards

*Devils advocate hat*
If minority groups hadn't been oppressed for years there wouldn't have been any need for such ceremonies/awards.

In any case I don't get why folks get their knickers in a knot. Are able bodied folks gonna demand they be in the paralymics?

Are nurses gonna moan they didn't get engineer of the year or whatever?

It's such a crappy thing to worry about.
Leccy

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