quote:Originally posted by Pink Plastik:
or better still just leave the thread would be nice.
It's a forum.
It's a forum.
Jeppa i can only give u a 
.Ive been married 37 yrs n i just dont know what i would do without him so please take my love n lots of hugs to you
.Ive been married 37 yrs n i just dont know what i would do without him so please take my love n lots of hugs to you
Thanks ILWY, there are some lovely people on this forum.quote:Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
Jeppa i can only give u a
quote:It's a forum.
So why dont u say what u mean instead of being sarcasic or just leave us who liked jade to give her our love
Oh Jeppa Darling, I am only married 6 years and cannot bear the thought of my life without his nibs. I lost my sister 3 years ago to cancer,(she was 34) she left 4 little boys and I think this, combined with the fact I genuinely liked Jade, made me so incredibly sad when she died.
I cannot imagine what you must go through, but sending you all my love and a big hug
I cannot imagine what you must go through, but sending you all my love and a big hug
quote:Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:quote:It's a forum.
So why dont u say what u mean instead of being sarcasic or just leave us who liked jade to give her our love
Exactlly. It is a forum but posting things like that in a tribute thread about a young mother is in poor taste and shows off bad character. This is a thread about showing respect.
quote:Originally posted by jeppa:Just over 2 years ago but we`d been married 32yrs. I`ve found it very hard, it doesn`t seem to get any easier but coming on here helps keep my mind occupied.quote:Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:quote:Originally posted by jeppa:Neither will I ILWY, my husband and I always had a soft spot for Jade - he`s up there himself nowquote:Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
If they have a BB 20 there will never be a hm like jade,she was just FANTASIC n i will never forget her.
Im so sorry about that
God bless you and your family xx
RIP Jade.
Thank you so much. Cancer is such a horrible disease, it came from nowhere to my husband, never a days illness, and I lost him in 5 months. I read about Jackiey wearing Jade`s clothes and I understand exactly, I still smell my husband`s clothes (the one`s I just couldn`t give away). I feel so sorry for her she seems to be having a bad time.quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Oh Jeppa Darling, I am only married 6 years and cannot bear the thought of my life without his nibs. I lost my sister 3 years ago to cancer,(she was 34) she left 4 little boys and I think this, combined with the fact I genuinely liked Jade, made me so incredibly sad when she died.
I cannot imagine what you must go through, but sending you all my love and a big hug
quote:Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:quote:It's a forum.
So why dont u say what u mean instead of being sarcasic or just leave us who liked jade to give her our love
She's dead and can't read what you're writing. You're writing it solely for each other. You don't love her. I bet none of you knew her other than her newspaper and TV persona. She wasn't an angel, just a normal person with good and bad aspects to her character, some of the bad of which we had the misfortune to witness. I'm as sorry she went through her illness as I am for other unfortunates who I don't know personally. At the end of the Big Brother show yesterday, the producers did a tasteful and relevant memorial to Jade Goody in context. Much of the rest of the online Jade beatification is variously saccharin and maudlin and overblown, and therefore worthy of a mild bit of sarcasm.
quote:Originally posted by jeppa:Thank you so much. Cancer is such a horrible disease, it came from nowhere to my husband, never a days illness, and I lost him in 5 months. I read about Jackiey wearing Jade`s clothes and I understand exactly, I still smell my husband`s clothes (the one`s I just couldn`t give away). I feel so sorry for her she seems to be having a bad time.quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Oh Jeppa Darling, I am only married 6 years and cannot bear the thought of my life without his nibs. I lost my sister 3 years ago to cancer,(she was 34) she left 4 little boys and I think this, combined with the fact I genuinely liked Jade, made me so incredibly sad when she died.
I cannot imagine what you must go through, but sending you all my love and a big hug
Jeppa, for what its worth I hear ya - loud and clear my darling girl
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
She's dead and can't read what you're writing. You're writing it solely for each other. You don't love her. I bet none of you knew her other than her newspaper and TV persona. She wasn't an angel, just a normal person with good and bad aspects to her character, some of the bad of which we had the misfortune to witness. I'm as sorry she went through her illness as I am for other unfortunates who I don't know personally. At the end of the Big Brother show yesterday, the producers did a tasteful and relevant memorial to Jade Goody in context. Much of the rest of the online Jade beatification is variously saccharin and maudlin and overblown, and therefore worthy of a mild bit of sarcasm.
Oh, and as an addendum, I lost my mother to bowel cancer at a relatively young age, my father to a heart attack and kidney disease, all my grandparents and my great-aunties and great-uncles have died of various elderly things. I've lost my uncle too to a heart attack. I've also lost much loved pets. I'm pretty young still and I know quite a lot about grieving; real grieving, real impact, real loss, not celebrity magazine loss.
RIP jade she was no saint but no demon either she was stupid in some ways but intelligent in others much like all of us. At least she admited when she didn't know things
Love her or hate her no one can deny she was always herself when she was on tv.
She is also the only housemate to make a go it after leaving the house.
Love her or hate her no one can deny she was always herself when she was on tv.
She is also the only housemate to make a go it after leaving the house.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
She's dead and can't read what you're writing. You're writing it solely for each other. You don't love her. I bet none of you knew her other than her newspaper and TV persona. She wasn't an angel, just a normal person with good and bad aspects to her character, some of the bad of which we had the misfortune to witness. I'm as sorry she went through her illness as I am for other unfortunates who I don't know personally. At the end of the Big Brother show yesterday, the producers did a tasteful and relevant memorial to Jade Goody in context. Much of the rest of the online Jade beatification is variously saccharin and maudlin and overblown, and therefore worthy of a mild bit of sarcasm.
Oh, and as an addendum, I lost my mother to bowel cancer at a relatively young age, my father to a heart attack and kidney disease, all my grandparents and my great-aunties and great-uncles have died of various elderly things. I've lost my uncle too to a heart attack. I've also lost much loved pets. I'm pretty young still and I know quite a lot about grieving; real grieving, real impact, real loss, not celebrity magazine loss.
Ah Daniel, the deaths in your family are so sad and I am GENUINELY sorry that you had to go through all that. Hope you had good support to help you through. I think that because you have experienced such loss you can understand how some of Jades Fans feel- not all of them are numpties that just read Heat Mag. They are real folk too who have lost loved ones and can empathise with someone young dying. Not taking anyones side, not getting involved in scraps, but someone young dying is so sad. Thats just my penny's worth and hope it hasn't upset you, you're a smashing bloke and I love your posts|!)
Bravo Neil.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
She's dead and can't read what you're writing. You're writing it solely for each other. You don't love her. I bet none of you knew her other than her newspaper and TV persona. She wasn't an angel, just a normal person with good and bad aspects to her character, some of the bad of which we had the misfortune to witness. I'm as sorry she went through her illness as I am for other unfortunates who I don't know personally. At the end of the Big Brother show yesterday, the producers did a tasteful and relevant memorial to Jade Goody in context. Much of the rest of the online Jade beatification is variously saccharin and maudlin and overblown, and therefore worthy of a mild bit of sarcasm.
Oh, and as an addendum, I lost my mother to bowel cancer at a relatively young age, my father to a heart attack and kidney disease, all my grandparents and my great-aunties and great-uncles have died of various elderly things. I've lost my uncle too to a heart attack. I've also lost much loved pets. I'm pretty young still and I know quite a lot about grieving; real grieving, real impact, real loss, not celebrity magazine loss.
I'm very sorry to hear about your losses, it's very sad and my thoughts go out to you and your family. All I was saying is that I don't feel sarcasm is really appropriate regarding this sensitive issue.
quote:Originally posted by Pink Plastik:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
She's dead and can't read what you're writing. You're writing it solely for each other. You don't love her. I bet none of you knew her other than her newspaper and TV persona. She wasn't an angel, just a normal person with good and bad aspects to her character, some of the bad of which we had the misfortune to witness. I'm as sorry she went through her illness as I am for other unfortunates who I don't know personally. At the end of the Big Brother show yesterday, the producers did a tasteful and relevant memorial to Jade Goody in context. Much of the rest of the online Jade beatification is variously saccharin and maudlin and overblown, and therefore worthy of a mild bit of sarcasm.
Oh, and as an addendum, I lost my mother to bowel cancer at a relatively young age, my father to a heart attack and kidney disease, all my grandparents and my great-aunties and great-uncles have died of various elderly things. I've lost my uncle too to a heart attack. I've also lost much loved pets. I'm pretty young still and I know quite a lot about grieving; real grieving, real impact, real loss, not celebrity magazine loss.
I'm very sorry to hear about your losses, it's very sad and my thoughts go out to you and your family. All I was saying is that I don't feel sarcasm is really appropriate regarding this sensitive issue.
sorry n ditto
Not seeing your 28th birthday is tragic 
RIP Jade
RIP Jade
quote:Originally posted by Crunchy Nuts:
Not seeing your 28th birthday is tragic
RIP Jade
Yes it is c/n
quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Ah Daniel, the deaths in your family are so sad and I am GENUINELY sorry that you had to go through all that. Hope you had good support to help you through. I think that because you have experienced such loss you can understand how some of Jades Fans feel- not all of them are numpties that just read Heat Mag. They are real folk too who have lost loved ones and can empathise with someone young dying. Not taking anyones side, not getting involved in scraps, but someone young dying is so sad. Thats just my penny's worth and hope it hasn't upset you, you're a smashing bloke and I love your posts|!)
Don't try to flatter me into shame.
Seriously, no need to express sorrow. Death is part of life's rich tapestry for the people who remain. I was just pointing out that I'm familiar with the tragedy around death. But, for me, it's a private thing.
It's just that there's seems to have been hundreds of these Jade memorial threads on these forums. I suspect there's a gender divide thing here but, as a bloke, aniversaries don't really mean much to me. They're just another day. And Jade is just another familiar but personally distant media face.
I don't honestly understand Jade fan grief at all and I struggle a bit with public expressions of empathy in groups. That's probably me though as I'm not comfortable expressing public grief generally. Presumably, people posting little angel thingies are getting something personal out of it that has very little to do with the actual tragedy of Jade's death.
I suppose there needs to be a connection for it to mean something but, for example, perhaps 20,000 people, including children, were blown up and shot in Sri Lanka recently and there wasn't a peep on here even when we had a broad subject base. No little angels, nothing. Much tragedy, but no benefits in a personal sharing experience I guess.
Maybe I just over-analyse. 
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Maybe I just over-analyse.
I think it's the fact that we've watched Jade through the media so, although it may be silly we kind of feel like we know her. For someone who's never really lost anyone I find it sad watching someone that I liked, thought a lot of or even just followed their story die.
Regardless of what we thought of her she was a young lady who battled bravely against a horrific disease and left behind her two small children.
I was never her greatest fan but my heart went out to her.
I was never her greatest fan but my heart went out to her.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Ah Daniel, the deaths in your family are so sad and I am GENUINELY sorry that you had to go through all that. Hope you had good support to help you through. I think that because you have experienced such loss you can understand how some of Jades Fans feel- not all of them are numpties that just read Heat Mag. They are real folk too who have lost loved ones and can empathise with someone young dying. Not taking anyones side, not getting involved in scraps, but someone young dying is so sad. Thats just my penny's worth and hope it hasn't upset you, you're a smashing bloke and I love your posts|!)
Don't try to flatter me into shame.
Seriously, no need to express sorrow. Death is part of life's rich tapestry for the people who remain. I was just pointing out that I'm familiar with the tragedy around death. But, for me, it's a private thing.
It's just that there's seems to have been hundreds of these Jade memorial threads on these forums. I suspect there's a gender divide thing here but, as a bloke, aniversaries don't really mean much to me. They're just another day. And Jade is just another familiar but personally distant media face.
I don't honestly understand Jade fan grief at all and I struggle a bit with public expressions of empathy in groups. That's probably me though as I'm not comfortable expressing public grief generally. Presumably, people posting little angel thingies are getting something personal out of it that has very little to do with the actual tragedy of Jade's death.
I suppose there needs to be a connection for it to mean something but, for example, perhaps 20,000 people, including children, were blown up and shot in Sri Lanka recently and there wasn't a peep on here even when we had a broad subject base. No little angels, nothing. Much tragedy, but no benefits in a personal sharing experience I guess.
It ain't just you being a boy Dan! I is a girl and all this tommyrot about mourning a reality tv personality is sticking in my arsehole bigtime!
Yes she died young, yes she left 2 little kiddies, but you know what? Kids get over it!
I work with people with LD's and a lot of them were adopted cos their "real" parents didn't want them. Not only that people you have never heard of in Heat, take a break etc etc have died and left little kiddies behind! Do you all weep for them?
Do you weep for the kiddies in the 3rd world that have to carry on and keep the family together at the age of 8 and less? The ones that have to walk miles for clean water???
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Ah Daniel, the deaths in your family are so sad and I am GENUINELY sorry that you had to go through all that. Hope you had good support to help you through. I think that because you have experienced such loss you can understand how some of Jades Fans feel- not all of them are numpties that just read Heat Mag. They are real folk too who have lost loved ones and can empathise with someone young dying. Not taking anyones side, not getting involved in scraps, but someone young dying is so sad. Thats just my penny's worth and hope it hasn't upset you, you're a smashing bloke and I love your posts|!)
Don't try to flatter me into shame.
Seriously, no need to express sorrow. Death is part of life's rich tapestry for the people who remain. I was just pointing out that I'm familiar with the tragedy around death. But, for me, it's a private thing.
It's just that there's seems to have been hundreds of these Jade memorial threads on these forums. I suspect there's a gender divide thing here but, as a bloke, aniversaries don't really mean much to me. They're just another day. And Jade is just another familiar but personally distant media face.
I don't honestly understand Jade fan grief at all and I struggle a bit with public expressions of empathy in groups. That's probably me though as I'm not comfortable expressing public grief generally. Presumably, people posting little angel thingies are getting something personal out of it that has very little to do with the actual tragedy of Jade's death.
I suppose there needs to be a connection for it to mean something but, for example, perhaps 20,000 people, including children, were blown up and shot in Sri Lanka recently and there wasn't a peep on here even when we had a broad subject base. No little angels, nothing. Much tragedy, but no benefits in a personal sharing experience I guess.
It ain't just you being a boy Dan! I is a girl and all this tommyrot about mourning a reality tv personality is sticking in my arsehole bigtime!
Yes she died young, yes she left 2 little kiddies, but you know what? Kids get over it!
I work with people with LD's and a lot of them were adopted cos their "real" parents didn't want them. Not only that people you have never heard of in Heat, take a break etc etc have died and left little kiddies behind! Do you all weep for them?
Do you weep for the kiddies in the 3rd world that have to carry on and keep the family together at the age of 8 and less? The ones that have to walk miles for clean water???
nobody is disputing the fact that their deaths are just as sad and tragic, but the thing is that we followed Jade's story. For those of us who were her fans it's sad to see someone that we admired die. The reason it cuts some of us deeper is because we've watched seven ears of her life unfold.
And I'm sorry but "kids get over it". I don't think that two boys both under the age of 6 will just get over not having their mum with them for the rest of their life.
It seemed like she was a great mum
6th June.. should have been 28 for a whole day
quote:Originally posted by Pink Plastik:
I think it's the fact that we've watched Jade through the media so, although it may be silly we kind of feel like we know her. For someone who's never really lost anyone I find it sad watching someone that I liked, thought a lot of or even just followed their story die.
I was going to wonder aloud yesterday whether people were just 'practicing' by mourning her and marking anniversaries like one would with a real person. It's not a bad idea I suppose. I mean, some parents deliberately give their kids pets like hamsters for a similar reason.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Ah Daniel, the deaths in your family are so sad and I am GENUINELY sorry that you had to go through all that. Hope you had good support to help you through. I think that because you have experienced such loss you can understand how some of Jades Fans feel- not all of them are numpties that just read Heat Mag. They are real folk too who have lost loved ones and can empathise with someone young dying. Not taking anyones side, not getting involved in scraps, but someone young dying is so sad. Thats just my penny's worth and hope it hasn't upset you, you're a smashing bloke and I love your posts|!)
Don't try to flatter me into shame.
Seriously, no need to express sorrow. Death is part of life's rich tapestry for the people who remain. I was just pointing out that I'm familiar with the tragedy around death. But, for me, it's a private thing.
It's just that there's seems to have been hundreds of these Jade memorial threads on these forums. I suspect there's a gender divide thing here but, as a bloke, aniversaries don't really mean much to me. They're just another day. And Jade is just another familiar but personally distant media face.
I don't honestly understand Jade fan grief at all and I struggle a bit with public expressions of empathy in groups. That's probably me though as I'm not comfortable expressing public grief generally. Presumably, people posting little angel thingies are getting something personal out of it that has very little to do with the actual tragedy of Jade's death.
I suppose there needs to be a connection for it to mean something but, for example, perhaps 20,000 people, including children, were blown up and shot in Sri Lanka recently and there wasn't a peep on here even when we had a broad subject base. No little angels, nothing. Much tragedy, but no benefits in a personal sharing experience I guess.
I have just read your response to me and I am sitting here shocked. I sent you a genuine message of support and yes sympathy becasue I meant them Daniel. I certainly wasnt not being disingenuous or trying to flatter you or reduce you to the anger you onviously felt to answer me in such a fashion. I won't do it again.
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Ah Daniel, the deaths in your family are so sad and I am GENUINELY sorry that you had to go through all that. Hope you had good support to help you through. I think that because you have experienced such loss you can understand how some of Jades Fans feel- not all of them are numpties that just read Heat Mag. They are real folk too who have lost loved ones and can empathise with someone young dying. Not taking anyones side, not getting involved in scraps, but someone young dying is so sad. Thats just my penny's worth and hope it hasn't upset you, you're a smashing bloke and I love your posts|!)
Don't try to flatter me into shame.
Seriously, no need to express sorrow. Death is part of life's rich tapestry for the people who remain. I was just pointing out that I'm familiar with the tragedy around death. But, for me, it's a private thing.
It's just that there's seems to have been hundreds of these Jade memorial threads on these forums. I suspect there's a gender divide thing here but, as a bloke, aniversaries don't really mean much to me. They're just another day. And Jade is just another familiar but personally distant media face.
I don't honestly understand Jade fan grief at all and I struggle a bit with public expressions of empathy in groups. That's probably me though as I'm not comfortable expressing public grief generally. Presumably, people posting little angel thingies are getting something personal out of it that has very little to do with the actual tragedy of Jade's death.
I suppose there needs to be a connection for it to mean something but, for example, perhaps 20,000 people, including children, were blown up and shot in Sri Lanka recently and there wasn't a peep on here even when we had a broad subject base. No little angels, nothing. Much tragedy, but no benefits in a personal sharing experience I guess.
It ain't just you being a boy Dan! I is a girl and all this tommyrot about mourning a reality tv personality is sticking in my arsehole bigtime!
Yes she died young, yes she left 2 little kiddies, but you know what? Kids get over it!
I work with people with LD's and a lot of them were adopted cos their "real" parents didn't want them. Not only that people you have never heard of in Heat, take a break etc etc have died and left little kiddies behind! Do you all weep for them?
Do you weep for the kiddies in the 3rd world that have to carry on and keep the family together at the age of 8 and less? The ones that have to walk miles for clean water???
Yes I weep over orphans and little 'kiddes' that have to walk miles for water. Of course I do. I am a human being with a heart and my tears are for everyone who is less fortunate than myself, especially children. I find it odd that your compassion doesn't extend to Jades sons but thats your perogative, just as it is mine to feel sorrow for a yong woman who lost her life and for her sons.
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
It ain't just you being a boy Dan! I is a girl and all this tommyrot about mourning a reality tv personality is sticking in my arsehole bigtime!
Yes she died young, yes she left 2 little kiddies, but you know what? Kids get over it!
I work with people with LD's and a lot of them were adopted cos their "real" parents didn't want them. Not only that people you have never heard of in Heat, take a break etc etc have died and left little kiddies behind! Do you all weep for them?
Do you weep for the kiddies in the 3rd world that have to carry on and keep the family together at the age of 8 and less? The ones that have to walk miles for clean water???
Oh dear you seem to have the weight of the world on your shoulders, how do you priorities who you weep for first or most?
We have young kids in this country who are taking care of their parents; it wasnât that long ago that we didnât have running water in every home. I personally would rather walk miles for muddy water than the one coming from my tap full of sperm and all the other chemicals in it. There are families here who have one meal a day so that they can feed their kids properly; there are elderly people who are left to die in care homes and hospitals. I could go on but can not imagine that you would not know all of this yourself.
As for Jade, why is it so wrong for people to feel any empathy for a young woman who lost her life at a young age? Just because you feel there are other worthy things to feel empathy for doesnât give you or anyone else the right to mock those who feel some sort of connection with her.
quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
I have just read your response to me and I am sitting here shocked. I sent you a genuine message of support and yes sympathy becasue I meant them Daniel. I certainly wasnt not being disingenuous or trying to flatter you or reduce you to the anger you onviously felt to answer me in such a fashion. I won't do it again.
See that ninja smiley up there immediately after the angry one? That inverts the angry smiley. It makes it a joke. Isn't that a standard, widely used, many-forum-ed, technique? Loads of people do it, and all over the place. How can it not be read that way? Lordy, no wonder threads go awry at times.
Daniel J, I know this is a forum but this topic was to commemorate Jadeâs birthday not a topic for discussion.
for you
for you
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
I have just read your response to me and I am sitting here shocked. I sent you a genuine message of support and yes sympathy becasue I meant them Daniel. I certainly wasnt not being disingenuous or trying to flatter you or reduce you to the anger you onviously felt to answer me in such a fashion. I won't do it again.
See that ninja smiley up there immediately after the angry one? That inverts the angry smiley. It makes it a joke. Isn't that a standard, widely used, many-forum-ed, technique? Loads of people do it, and all over the place. How can it not be read that way? Lordy, no wonder threads go awry at times.
No need to patronise me Daniel. As I said I won't be bothering you again.
quote:Originally posted by Blue Diamond:
Daniel J, I know this is a forum but this topic was to commemorate Jadeâs birthday not a topic for discussion.
for you
Oh dear.....what a strange thread.........
quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
I have just read your response to me and I am sitting here shocked. I sent you a genuine message of support and yes sympathy becasue I meant them Daniel. I certainly wasnt not being disingenuous or trying to flatter you or reduce you to the anger you onviously felt to answer me in such a fashion. I won't do it again.
See that ninja smiley up there immediately after the angry one? That inverts the angry smiley. It makes it a joke. Isn't that a standard, widely used, many-forum-ed, technique? Loads of people do it, and all over the place. How can it not be read that way? Lordy, no wonder threads go awry at times.
No need to patronise me Daniel. As I said I won't be bothering you again.
Good one Holly
quote:Originally posted by Blue Diamond:
Daniel J, I know this is a forum but this topic was to commemorate Jadeâs birthday not a topic for discussion.
for you
I just quietly poked fun at the Heat Magaziners until a couple got a bit huffy and asked me to explain myself. So I did.
C'mon, it's a bit weirdy isn't it? Proper z-list celebrity crushes. Tribute threads for birthday anniversaries. Suppressed sobs that she'd be 28 + 1 day now. Actually, that last one has to be a spoof surely?
But anyway. I'm sure there's many dozens of Jade webpages somewhere filled with cheesy jpgs of burning candles, and dreadful young-teenager tribute poems, and emotional women (plus a few gay blokes) consoling themselves in tragedy porn. This is a many-aspected forum and I'm afraid a bit of teasing is quite likely.
quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
No need to patronise me Daniel. As I said I won't be bothering you again.
Patronise you? It's exasperation.
