Hevva!! Take a chill pill. Take a deep breath - say 'OK - I see where you're coming from - more often than not a persons nationality is referred to in a case like this' and then let it go and join in the discussion without defending to the death what you've said. It's not a weakness to back down you know. 
Why not try contributing to a thread that you agree with - I'm certainly not saying that you always have to agree but .......seeing someone elses POV isn't always a bad thing.

Nice post Soozy 

Hevva!! Take a chill pill. Take a deep breath - say 'OK - I see where you're coming from - more often than not a persons nationality is referred to in a case like this' and then let it go and join in the discussion without defending to the death what you've said. It's not a weakness to back down you know. 
Why not try contributing to a thread that you agree with - I'm certainly not saying that you always have to agree but .......seeing someone elses POV isn't always a bad thing.

I agree in the main part with this topic - I just disagree with the victims nationality being bought into it.  At the end of the day I have done nothing wrong on this thread hence why nobody cn offer me the quotes I am requesting - on this forum I could say the sky is blue and there would be certian people immediately jumping in either disagreeing or telling me I have said it in the wrong way.

If every thread I went into resulted in people disagreeing with me and generally getting upset - and I mean ALL people, not just a few, I would look at what I was posting and how I was saying it.

And just for the record I am talking about every thread you go in - not just this one.

The folk on here are by and large a tolerant group and I have never seen anyone else upset them like you do.
So are you saying we are all bullies on here? Because were it me, I would be looking at myself.

But that would happen whatever the nationality 

Hope this works stonks. Hello you    

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2...ears-86908-22860744/

You jumped in straight away suggesting the news item was racist when they were simply reporting facts. It was a ludicrous suggestion as I pointed out and you continued undeterred till the thread descended into a farce like it always does when you join in.

But (as countless others have said before me) it always is - that's just the way it goes. It always makes me laugh when they say 'Maxine a single mum aged 17' etc. It's simply adding to the description - making more of a story - it could have been 'a young father aged 18' or 'a black unemployed youth aged 16' or a 'grandfather of 3 aged 58' - you have to make a story FGS!

But (as countless others have said before me) it always is - that's just the way it goes. It always makes me laugh when they say 'Maxine a single mum aged 17' etc. It's simply adding to the description - making more of a story - it could have been 'a young father aged 18' or 'a black unemployed youth aged 16' or a 'grandfather of 3 aged 58' - you have to make a story FGS!

That may very well be the case but that does not mean I have to agree with it - everybody on this forum has a right to air their opinions and that includes me - I've said it mny times already but I haven't done anything wrong on this thead which has been proven by people being unable to offer the quotes I have requested.

Prom did - but you chose to ignore him,

Funny that.

You seem to be implying that the thread is racist PP. It isn't. You just chose to pick out this one, whereas there are other people (of a different colour) accused of things too. As I said........good and bad in all walks of life 

Prom did - but you chose to ignore him,

No he has accused me of something but has not quoted the part where I supposedly said it.

You seem to be implying that the thread is racist PP. It isn't. You just chose to pick out this one, whereas there are other people (of a different colour) accused of things too. As I said........good and bad in all walks of life 

Again I haven't - please quote

Read back PP 

And this is where it all starts.

Triggers has said that is not what she meant - you insist it was what YOU thought.
In an adult debate sometimes it is good to have the grace to back down and say that perhaps you misinterpreted something, It is what adults do,

And you say that opinions can never be wrong?
Oh yes they can... quite easily.
Hitler's opinion was that all Jews should be exterminated - well hello thats pretty wrong.

The perverts who think that children are fair game to sexually abuse - thats an opinion and guess what - it is wrong!

So if you can justify to me how either of those opinions can ever be right to decent minded people then please go ahead.

You don't remember posting this? You've forgotten already? In what way is including his race 'significant'? Everyone knew what you were implying.

You don't remember posting this? You've forgotten already? In what way is including his race 'significant'? Everyone knew what you were implying.

Thankyou Scotty....

Well before I read this I'd have tended to agree with PP cos when I'm talking about something or someone I never describe them by race but reading the story his nationality was put in in total context..he was married, he was a father of 2, he was visiting from India where he was born, I can't see nothing wrong with the article....

Maybe it should have read married father of 2 from another country?

What a let down... 3 pages and no one has played the bully card




Il kick start the proceedings then, "You're all vile vicious jealous bullehs"


*walks out of thread well chuffed with self*

I've just typed out a reply and deleted it 

You haven't read pretty-p's posts then. The implication is there. Shouldn't you be more concerned with which five players you're going to buy tomorrow? 

But then there's be a debate on what country he came from and why was it mentioned....

hmmmm *thinks*

What about - "he was from another country but for the sake of international peace we cannot say which one but the point we are trying to make is what a shame we treat our guests like this..."

Does that make it worse?

Only two... Messi & Alvez.

We will be sending Lescott your way

But then the whole of history will have to be rewritten..somehow a non national in New York does'nt sound as good on a Police album....or a movie called a non national warewolf in London....

If that rumour turns out to be true I will hold you personally responsible 

LOL Stonks, sorry, but that made me laugh too 

Why has this all centred around PPs opinion ? Ffs this poor man is dead, he was here on holiday the media quite rightly said where he had come from to be here on holiday,his killers IMO  should rot in hell,but as usual the bastards who killed him will be out in a few years time. My thoughts and prayers are with his family..

Should we start complaining about the press mentioning that a human was brutally murdered, in case animal rights campaigners get all uppity? 

Of course it is claptrap Triggs, for someone to come in with such inane and attention seeking comments on the back of such a sickening crime is in need of help themselves..IMO

It's the same argument every single time. She comes in and posts in her usual pedantic manner. People get upset by the tone and the fact that she refuses to see any other view than her own.She then plays the"what have I done wrong show me examples card". Eventually someone does and countless people point out how they are offended.
She then ignores these posts, comes back the next day and says that certain elements are trying to bully her and she plays the victim.

I don't know why she does it but she will be back later doing exactly the same thing,

Ref: Blizzie
Should we start complaining about the press mentioning that a human was brutally murdered, in case animal rights campaigners get all uppity
*Gets all uppity*


Although talking about this is allowing the derailing of the thread to continue, I did notice when listening to the radio news yesterday and today that they had a couple of stories where they mentioned the race of the person although it had no bearing on the criminality of the act concerned. One being the Dutch man arrested in the Jo murder and the other being the British student murder appeal thingy - sorry I'm bad with names.
Soozy is absolutely right when she says that these details are added to flesh out the story and give background not to infer some sort of racist profile.
PP I have always defended you even while disagreeing with you but your provocation is now becoming really tiresome. Yes you have the right to an opinion and to state it but the way you go about it is what causes the reaction you get. I honestly can't believe that you are this crass in the real world or someone would have stuck one on you before now.

Elkie  x
I fervently object to P_p  manipulating what I have posted to present her own cynical and jaded opinion. I don't need a translator on here to tell others that what I have written "is like saying..." 
I will revert back to my hitherto held position of not getting involved with P_p, it has served me well thus far.

see what happens - i don't lurk and hell breaks loose!!

Yes, I blame machel! 

I knew Machel would be involved somehow Blizzie  trouble with a capital T that one

It does make me laugh that everyone accuses PP of trying to make the thread all about her by posting an opinion that lots of people don't agree with...though why saying his nationality was immaterial is seen to be inflammatory i don;t know.

As far as I can see the people making the thread all about her are the ones who are like a dog with a bone every time she posts...

As far as I can see the people making the thread all about her are the ones who are like a dog with a bone every time she posts...

Thank you!!!!