If yet don't mind me talking across yer like PP. Yes! They sell old speckled hen soops!
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I really do ot understand why in such cases there is a need to mention the race of the victim (and that is nothing against the op as obv he/she merely got it from the original story) - I don't see what it adds to the story - this happening to anybody is sickening regardless of race etc but for me the fact they include his race is rather significant
Did it mention the man's race,or do you actually know the man?.....Indian may well have been his nationality,given the man was a tourist them including this fact is relevant imo,if god forbid it had been me no doubt they'd have stated Irish woman,same would apply to any other tourist I assume.their nationality would be mentioned.
How do you know?
He was an Indian tourist visiting Scotland.
The newspapers would have reported any murdered tourist`s nationality whether they were from Scandinavia, Timbuktu, or Outer Mongolia!
The newspapers would have reported any murdered tourist`s nationality whether they were from Scandinavia, Timbuktu, or Outer Mongolia!
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I feel that by including his race in the story the media are trying to suggest there is a racist edge to the attack when in reality there is no evidence to suggest this.
TBF we don't know whether this was an element or not.......reading Blizzie's link it gives other personal details: 'married' 'father of two' etc....Not sure why that is so different for e.g. saying in another case: a single man from Essex on holiday in Italy was.... blah blah blahReference:
They sell old speckled hen soops!
I know
If this story was in the Irish papers it would have been put as eg;..if he was'nt born in Ireland but lived here it would have stated he was a non national born in India..if he was visiting it would have called him an Indian tourist, its just the way things are put....
Life's far too cheap in this country - that's the gist of my rant.
This thread was about an innocent man being murdered by yobs who got off lightly.
Now it`s turned into something that has NOTHING to do with it!
I`m off to the music thread.
Expect heavy metal!
Now it`s turned into something that has NOTHING to do with it!
I`m off to the music thread.
Expect heavy metal!
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Expect heavy metal!
Scotty
I f'in hate heavy metal.....I challenge you or GJ to post at least one track that I might enjoy listening too
Did it mention the man's race,or do you actually know the man?.....Indian may well have been his nationality,given the man was a tourist them including this fact is relevant imo,if god forbid it had been me no doubt they'd have stated Irish woman,same would apply to any other tourist I assume.their nationality would be mentioned.
Unfortunately I doubt very much that they would as it wouldn't have as much impact His nationality really does not matter - this happening to anyone is beyond sickening.
Unfortunately I doubt very much that they would as it wouldn't have as much impact His nationality really does not matter - this happening to anyone is beyond sickening.
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Scotty I f'in hate heavy metal.....I challenge you or GJ to post at least one track that I might enjoy listening too
Supes I f`in hate heavy metal too but I`m up for the challenge. I`ll need help from Joe though. I haven`t got a clue!
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no doubt they'd have stated Irish woman
absobloodylutely
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Unfortunately I doubt very much that they would as it wouldn't have as much impact
PP....the racist slurs and 'jokes' ref the Irish are more than well documented !Reference:
Supes I f`in hate heavy metal too but I`m up for the challenge. I`ll need help from Joe though. I haven`t got a clue!
I'll start a thread!!!!Reference:
I'll start a thread!!!!
Okay 
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Unfortunately I doubt very much that they would as it wouldn't have as much impact His nationality really does not matter - this happening to anyone is beyond sickening.
Some years back a young German woman was attacked and murdered here,her nationality was mentioned,there have been others but that is just an example.A few weeks back a young Irish woman newly wed on her honeymoon in Mauritius attacked and murdered in her hotel room,again nationality mentioned ,the fact a victims nationality is mentioned is a common occurrence imo.Reference:
Scotty I f'in hate heavy metal.....I challenge you or GJ to post at least one track that I might enjoy listening too
Supes I f`in hate heavy metal too but I`m up for the challenge.
Hiya Supes I f`in hate heavy metal too but I`m up for the challenge.
There's a difference between Heavy Metal and Rock music though 
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I'll start a thread!!!!
I did it
quote:the fact a victims nationality is mentioned is a common occurrence imo.
I think so too... its like when there is an incident of some sort abroad, and they say x amount of people killed including 8 British tourists... of course its awful that everyone died, but they still mention the British ones, usually first in the report...
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the fact a victims nationality is mentioned is a common occurrence imo.
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I did it
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Hey Scotty, Triggs and p_p!
Hi Velvet
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this happening to anyone is beyond sickening.
It is indeed.... PP I hope that you will attest to the fact that I have have never. ever, got into a row with you/ been personal with you.... And that I have on occasion, stuck up for you?.... BUT, sometimes, intentionally or otherwise (????) your posts evoke v v strong and emotional reactions in others....I'm reminded of my 'sig' that I created back in the C4 days that is now reappearing on the new GaGa format: People will forget what you said and what you did, but will never forget the way you made them feelWorth thinking about????
Hi Triggs long time no see Reference: Triggs
Hi Velvet Howzitgaun?
No bad hen - hope it's the same with you Reference: Elkie
Hi Triggs long time no see
Hi lovely Elkie, it is great to see you I hope all is well with you and yours x (big hug)Reference: Velvet
No bad hen - hope it's the same with you
It is!
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It is indeed.... PP I hope that you will attest to the fact that I have have never. ever, got into a row with you/ been personal with you.... And that I have on occasion, stuck up for you?.... BUT, sometimes, intentionally or otherwise (????) your posts evoke v v strong and emotional reactions in others....I'm reminded of my 'sig' that I created back in the C4 days that is now reappearing on the new GaGa format: People will forget what you said and what you did, but will never forget the way you made them feel
Worth thinking about????
I'm sorry but you are going to have to point out exactly what I have done wrong here. My opinion is not offensive and has not been put across in any way that could possibly be deemed as being so - I have ignored anyone who has tried to cause any kind of row. Just because my opinion differs from yours that does not make it wrong - an opinion can not be wrong.
Worth thinking about????
I'm sorry but you are going to have to point out exactly what I have done wrong here. My opinion is not offensive and has not been put across in any way that could possibly be deemed as being so - I have ignored anyone who has tried to cause any kind of row. Just because my opinion differs from yours that does not make it wrong - an opinion can not be wrong.
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an opinion can not be wrong.
No, of course not, but it's sometimes the way it's put across
No, of course not, but it's sometimes the way it's put across
Forgive me if I am being "thick" but you are going to have to help me out here.
Forgive me if I am being "thick" but you are going to have to help me out here.
No, I don't think you're thick, it's just there's a right way to word things. That said, we're all guilty of it at times I guess
No, I don't think you're thick, it's just there's a right way to word things. That said, we're all guilty of it at times I guess
But give me examples of where I have actually done this in this thread.
But give me examples of where I have actually done this in this thread.
Well as you have just about managed to irk every single person on this thread tonight, clearly you must have said something.
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But give me examples of where I have actually done this in this thread.
Who said I was talking about this thread?
quote:I have ignored anyone who has tried to cause any kind of row.
I think we should all do the same
Who said I was talking about this thread?
The fact that this was bought up in this thread (not by yourself I know) led me to believe that something I have said in this thread was being referred to - if that isn't the case I'm a bit confused as to the point of bringing it up tbh.
The fact that this was bought up in this thread (not by yourself I know) led me to believe that something I have said in this thread was being referred to - if that isn't the case I'm a bit confused as to the point of bringing it up tbh.
pretty-p yet again you have completely derailed a thread so it becomes all about you with your flippant controversial statements designed to provoke. Why is it that every time you enter a thread by the end of it nobody can remember what was under discussion they can only remember YOU coming along to upset everyone?
Ask yourself that question. There's only one answer and I'm sure you won't like it but I suppose you can just play dumb as usual and ask what on Earth you've done to upset everyone.
Ask yourself that question. There's only one answer and I'm sure you won't like it but I suppose you can just play dumb as usual and ask what on Earth you've done to upset everyone.
pretty-p yet again you have completely derailed a thread so it becomes all about you with your flippant controversial statements designed to provoke. Why is it that every time you enter a thread by the end of it nobody can remember what was under discussion they can only remember YOU coming along to upset everyone?
Ask yourself that question. There's only one answer and I'm sure you won't like it but I suppose you can just play dumb as usual and ask what on Earth you've done to upset everyone.
Please quote the comment(s) where I have done something wrong - I haven't made this thread about me others have.
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Please quote the comment(s) where I have done something wrong - I haven't made this thread about me others have.
Again....think about the wordings of your posts before you post them