Blizz'ard offline 16,631 Forum Posts Today at 5:55 PM Last Edited: Wangner (© stonks) doesn't even want to be a singer. He just wants to get into 'show business'. As for all that crap about 'God is with me, who can be against me?', who does he think he is?

100% my sentiments exactly Issy

Issyjinglebells offline 4,903 Forum Posts Today at 8:12 PM Last Edited: I was listening to the radio this morning and they were saying that Wagner is perpetually among the top vote scorers . The reason is that people have had enough of the complete fix they perceive the X factor to be. They want to use Wagner as a kind of anti hero, They are also fed up with all the shenanigans in the press. None of the others really are exceptional. I am not a fan of Leona's voice but no one can deny the girl has talent.- there is no one else anywhere near her this year. Last year we had some real voices as well. Again - no one is there this year. As for me, well I do not vote as I do not want to contribute to the Cowell money machine, BUT I would love it if Wagner were to win, Perhaps then they would stop all the hypocrisy, the fawning, the domination of the stupid crowd with their booing and jeering. None of this lot are hungry for it this year - they are already famous - the press has seen to it. The X factor is a means to an end

Rebecca has an incredibly beautiful voice

You see I don't see that. I think she sings through her nose and has absolutely no personality.

Issyjinglebells offline 4,904 Forum Posts Today at 8:47 PM Last Edited: Reference: Rebecca has an incredibly beautiful voice You see I don't see that. I think she sings through her nose and has absolutely no personality. Now arguably neither did Leona BUT she did have the voice to carry her through.. Rebecca slaughtered one of the greatest Beatle songs on Sat - IMO of course

I disagree though that it is one of the greatest Beatles song - I find it dead dreary

I don't think that was the time or the place to make those comments.

I was listening to the radio this morning and they were saying that Wagner is perpetually among the top vote scorers .

They said that about Jedward last year as well. They weren't

The x factor has been a perfect example of social control since it started. Voting issues, well scripted spats, and faux emotional bolleaux. It reminds me greatly of Saturday afternoon wrestling from the sixties.

Yes you have!

Katie on the other hand...........

I do wish she would go away, she is at best average.

there's nothing to stop the improving Katie lifting the trophy.

It took Leona a while before she gained confidence and let her personality come through

Apart from the fact that the public (in general) really don't like her you mean?

i don;t think Simon Cowell and the Producers would let a little thing like that get in the way of any plans they may have/

KaffyBaffy offline 8,400 Forum Posts Today at 2:16 PM Last Edited: Reference: It took Leona a while before she gained confidence and let her personality come through She has a personality? *does a Gillian*

Apart from the fact that the public (in general) really don't like her you mean?