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Originally posted by Shizzlex:

good for you Queenie imagine the difference you make

i remember you getting that job

We are the kids eyes and ears in school Shiz.


Been there just over a year.

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Originally posted by Lacey:

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Originally posted by mary_bee:
I really wanted to see this. Is it over or will it be repeated?

Do you have channel 4 + 1 mary? It's on there at 10pm.

Or you could watch online on 4od.

Ah excellent, thankss

i bet she's taking her to thieve

Havent they give her any others clothes to wear yet?

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Originally posted by Shizzlex:
i bet she's taking her to thieve

or worse

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by queenshaks:

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Originally posted by Shizzlex:
wonder if teachers look out for stuff like forgetting PE kits each week

Yes they do.


Or TAs.

TAs? sorry - probably something obvious!

Teaching Assistants Kaffy

Ah - thanks! Silly me!

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Originally posted by Shizzlex:

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Originally posted by Syd:
What a comforting place she has been sent too............

i know hope that older girl isn't mean to her, fancy putting her in with a teenager

I know she obviously has problems of her own...

Nobody took her aside, got down to level and welcomed her........just shoved her into a place where the children of all ages had problems, but the staff looked like they needed a re-cap in childcare....

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Originally posted by Sarum:
It's hard going, but I'm sticking with it for now.

There's always Kevin Costner in tights on C5 if I can't handle it...

I thikn I'll stick with this, Sarum! That little girl looks really like a young Samantha Morton don't you think?

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by Sarum:
It's hard going, but I'm sticking with it for now.

There's always Kevin Costner in tights on C5 if I can't handle it...

I thikn I'll stick with this, Sarum! That little girl looks really like a young Samantha Morton don't you think?

She does, yes; very well cast.

(what's wrong with Kevin Costner in tights?)

Actually, forget I asked...

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Originally posted by Sarum:
Actually, forget I asked...

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:

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Originally posted by Shizzlex:
i bet she's taking her to thieve

or worse

That's what I was thinking- but thank God, it's only thieving...not entirely typical unfortunately, often it's 'worse'

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

Teaching Assistants Kaffy

Ah - thanks! Silly me![/QUOTE]

No, no Kaffy, not silly...and good on ya Queenshaks, these kids need more peeps like you

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Originally posted by Syd:
the staff looked like they needed a re-cap in childcare....

Prob is many haven't had a 'first-cap' never mind a 're-cap. I worked in a kids home on leaving uni' no training, 21 yrs of age BUT loads of love to give, a fair smattering of common sense, a relevant degree, and I hope, beyond hope, that I was always understanding, caring etc.etc. and a real champion for those kids causes...unfortunately that wasn't true of all of my colleagues- some right Bastards

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:


No, no Kaffy, not silly...and good on ya Queenshaks, these kids need more peeps like you

I look after them as if they they were my own kids.

whats going on there

If this is truly happening today....One child (and many more)lost in the bloody system set up to HELP her, even perhaps in my (Fluffy) mind show her that life does'nt all have to be BAD...........

Is this really based on Modern day events?

I am not naive enough not to think there is good and bad in most proffessions, but to throw a small child into........that.....

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Originally posted by Syd:
If this is truly happening today....One child (and many more)lost in the bloody system set up to HELP her, even perhaps in my (Fluffy) mind show her that life does'nt all have to be BAD...........

Is this really based on Modern day events?

I am not naive enough not to think there is good and bad in most proffessions, but to throw a small child into........that.....

It's awful isn't it, Syd? I'm lucky enough not have had or know anyone who's had experience of the system, but given that it's run by humans of which there are good and bad in all walks of life, I suppose it could be happening.

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Originally posted by Syd:
If this is truly happening today....One child (and many more)lost in the bloody system set up to HELP her, even perhaps in my (Fluffy) mind show her that life does'nt all have to be BAD...........

Is this really based on Modern day events?

I am not naive enough not to think there is good and bad in most proffessions, but to throw a small child into........that.....

Think things have changed considerably BUT imo pendulum has swung too far the other way- kids either maintained at home when they should really be removed, or if they're 'lucky' placed in foster care where often they experience multiple rejections and placements...we soooo need more good quality alternative care where children will be loved unconditionally, encouraged and valued etc...think that's the message this weeks programmes on this subject is trying to give

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
It's awful isn't it, Syd? I'm lucky enough not have had or know anyone who's had experience of the system, but given that it's run by humans of which there are good and bad in all walks of life, I suppose it could be happening.

Its very disturbing.....they take a child away from danger.......fill in the relevant paperwork........and shove them in, without a thought about the feelings of the child..just that they have "Done the right thing".....

A day out shopping should not end in an office and a question and answer!

"The office didn't sort out my petrol money" "we'll talk about that at your review" I am soooo

Samantha Morton grew up in Woolaton in Notts, Woolaton is quite a well to do area, this programme is set in Notts, they even have the dialect and slang down to a T, we say duck all the time.

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
"The office didn't sort out my petrol money" "we'll talk about that at your review" I am soooo

You talk as if you've experience in this sort of thing, Super?

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
"The office didn't sort out my petrol money" "we'll talk about that at your review" I am soooo

You talk as if you've experience in this sort of thing, Super?

Yes, on a professional rather than personal level Kaffy...but, before anyone jumps on the bandwagon I've seen on other threads re social workers " are all scum," " all need sacking" "are fleecing their own nests" etc. I would have to counter that by saying that, in my experience, the majority of folk who work in these and related professions are as appalled as anyone by this appaling practice

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

You talk as if you've experience in this sort of thing, Super?

No experience needed........a young girl sat across a table in room with a stranger....slightly happy after being shopping.....alone in the world....

the stranger says "because I am being paid petrol money now, I can visit you more often" (meaning the paperwork is in place).......

"would you like a look of warmth?, a hug?, a chat?"

accept the stranger never offered her the last questions..........

"appalled as anyone by this appaling practice"

Can't believe I said that..my English is seriously going down the pan..'cos I'm so bloody appalled!

Nothing on earth would make me willingly watch this programme. Cannot bear to see kids (or animals) suffering - even on TV.

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
"The office didn't sort out my petrol money" "we'll talk about that at your review" I am soooo

You talk as if you've experience in this sort of thing, Super?

Yes, on a professional rather than personal level Kaffy...but, before anyone jumps on the bandwagon I've seen on other threads re social workers " are all scum," " all need sacking" "are fleecing their own nests" etc. I would have to counter that by saying that, in my experience, the majority of folk who work in these and related professions are as appalled as anyone by this appaling practice

Yes I had a feeling it was in a professional capacity. Like everything else, there's good and bad in every profession, but it's the bad that make the news.

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Originally posted by Syd:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

You talk as if you've experience in this sort of thing, Super?

No experience needed........a young girl sat across a table in room with a stranger....slightly happy after being shopping.....alone in the world....

the stranger says "because I am being paid petrol money now, I can visit you more often" (meaning the paperwork is in place).......

"would you like a look of warmth?, a hug?, a chat?"

accept the stranger never offered her the last questions..........

Yes, I took all that in too, just was wondering if it was likely to have its roots in reality. Sadly it seems it can do...

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Originally posted by Deegs:
Nothing on earth would make me willingly watch this programme. Cannot bear to see kids (or animals) suffering - even on TV.

I know what you mean, it's compelling though. The little girl is a brilliant actress (I hope!) She just looks so broken and 'empty'.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Syd:

No experience needed........a young girl sat across a table in room with a stranger....slightly happy after being shopping.....alone in the world....

the stranger says "because I am being paid petrol money now, I can visit you more often" (meaning the paperwork is in place).......

"would you like a look of warmth?, a hug?, a chat?"

Agree wholeheartedly It's not bloody rocket science!

I thought I would give the programme another go so started watching it on 4 plus 1, so strange seeing so many places in Notts on the telly, loads of places I have walked along.

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by Deegs:
Nothing on earth would make me willingly watch this programme. Cannot bear to see kids (or animals) suffering - even on TV.

I know what you mean, it's compelling though. The little girl is a brilliant actress (I hope!) She just looks so broken and 'empty'.

Just reading about it on here is bad enough, Kaffy

In fact........... xx

Bye deegs - I'm hoping for an uplifting end, but I fear I'm going to be disappointed.

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Originally posted by Deegs:
Nothing on earth would make me willingly watch this programme. Cannot bear to see kids (or animals) suffering - even on TV.

I know what you mean deegs, but it honestly isn't a spectator sport, (well certainly not for me,)....the people who've been doing these programmes this week are imo, truly doing so in the hope of raising public awareness, so that things will change

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Originally posted by Poolshark:
I thought I would give the programme another go so started watching it on 4 plus 1, so strange seeing so many places in Notts on the telly, loads of places I have walked along.

Not sure what's going on with your posts here poolshark..and maybe your justifiably/understandably defended, in which case I apologise in advance...but don't you think you're kinda missing the point?!?

Thinking that was v well done...more concentration on the way the poor mite was feeling, rather than the salacious detail

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Thinking that was v well done...more concentration on the way the poor mite was feeling, rather than the salacious detail

I just kept thinking how alone she seemed. Really felt for her.

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Poolshark:
I thought I would give the programme another go so started watching it on 4 plus 1, so strange seeing so many places in Notts on the telly, loads of places I have walked along.

Not sure what's going on with your posts here poolshark..and maybe your justifiably/understandably defended, in which case I apologise in advance...but don't you think you're kinda missing the point?!?

I totally understand the point of the programme and the message it is trying to tell, but I just thought I would mention that it was strange seeing my city on the telly being Notts bloke myself and living here, obviously that was part of the reason as well why I wanted to watch this programme, we in Notts are very proud of Samantha Morton.