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Reference:  Blizzie
I think it tends to be the housemates thinking that anyone with disabilities should not be put up for nomination. Public opinion tends to range from some sympathy, to downright hostility that anyone with any disability has been chosen, with a good chunk in between that thinks they are just like any other housemate and will be judged on their personalties, not their disabilities. Mikey, for example, was extremely unpopular for a lot of the series, and would have been voted out, until he started standing up to Rex the Twunt. Verne Troyer tended to be confused with his film character, which was popular, until people started to notice that he was actually quite boring and sometimes quite nasty. With Steve, we hardly noticed him, for the first few weeks, apart from the snoring. As soon as the newbies entered the house, we saw parts of his personality that were far from endearing, so that now he is coming across as a letcherous, controlling bully, at times. His lack of respect for his wife's feelings, when he openly expressed jealousy at Keeley and Ben sharing a bed, will have only made things worse for his popularity, which was never high in the first place. I disagree about him 'dangling his disabilty around'. I don't think he used it, in his argument with Ben, but expressed anger at Ben disrespecting a previous generation, who had sacrificed a lot to save us from Fascism. I don't remember him even mentioning his own sacrifice, during the NI conflict. In fact, the only times he has amused me, have been when he jokes about his amputations and makes light of it.
agree with this..  ^^^^^ 

[ been agreeing with Blizzie a lot this year ..    exept am not too keen on Josie's sneaky side and lack of interest in anybody but herself and I know Blizzie is a Josie fan..  ]

I think the original article comes across more a pro Ben post than the 'we should the treat them all the same' discussion  it purports to be..

If anything Ben, who is lauded in the article, is the one who first  labelled Steve in there and in the early days insisted he was the 'War Hero' and deserved respect etc [Ben has labelled  them all in there and has roles for them to use  for his own purposes] . .only in the last week has he backtracked about Steve...
Mount Olympus *Olly*
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Lecs

I know what you mean tho  ..  I have my button pushing subject too where I just wish I could keep away. . normally involves owt negative to do with the Poles and all sense of rationality goes out the window. .  am always hoping people never notice that one tho . .   maybe they don't  

 but probably they do..  ..

tho your point is a good one to make and it never hurts to keep making it either. . .
Mount Olympus *Olly*
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I don't see why people can't just say (SOME on here do and I mentally thank them every time) "Oh Steve is getting on my nerves, I don't like him" instead of "Now, I know Steve is disabled, and it's nothing to do with him having no legs but he's getting on my nerves and I don't like him"
He's creeping me out the way he is acting with Keeley lately
SazBomb
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I know what you mean tho .. I have my button pushing subject too where I just wish I could keep away. . normally involves owt negative to do with the Poles and all sense of rationality goes out the window. . am always hoping people never notice that one tho . . maybe they don't
immigrunts and forrin peeps is my button pushing ranty subject
SazBomb
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People please,please don't think that I put this post up to be anti disabled. The purpose was to highlight the "PC" thing. My Father was an amputee and I have a great respect for people who go through life with disabilities. If I have upset or offended anyone I sincerely apologise.
Nooo it wasn't you! It was the f**kwit who wrote the article/blog/biased piece of crap who's to blame!
Karma_
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The Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) defines a disabled person as someone who has a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his or her ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.
That's really interesting cos I'm not officially classed as disabled - but have a long term condition that has the potential to last several years and has stopped me from working and doing some day to day stuff. Not that I'm screaming to be classed as disabled or owt, and no offence to those who are oh feck I should just shUt up
Karma_
Okay, thanks for that Leccy. I honestly can't see why mentioning Steve's disability is setting the cause back, Mario's gayness is discussed because it's part of what defines him (not all, but part). People have been naturally curious with my son in the past (particularly when he has had a naso-gastric tube and then later a gastrostomy). I guess some of them where judging him in some way, but it was their issue, not ours. For others, by explaining to them made them learn something that day. Celebrating difference/diversity means it's alright to talk about it, doesn't it?
suzybean
See now, this interests me because I was willing to give Steve a chance when he entered the house and frankly the comments on Digi Spy that night made me angry, but after watching him the past week or so, I find him deeply unpleasant and creepy to be honest.

The DDA is also interesting and I wonder if I qualify : I'm partially deaf, having to wear hearing aids in both ears and having labyrithe vertigo or possibly Menieres Disease (hasn't been officially diagnosed yet) making everyday life difficult at times, would class me as disabled?
β™₯PinkBabe1966β™₯The Angel under the tree!
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The DDA is also interesting and I wonder if I qualify : I'm partially deaf, having to wear hearing aids in both ears and having labyrithe vertigo or possibly Menieres Disease (hasn't been officially diagnosed yet) making everyday life difficult at times, would class me as disabled?
If the statement below applies to you then yes, you would be protected under law by the DDA
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The Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) defines a disabled person as someone who has a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his or her ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.
Leccy
Well, read most of this, my tuppence worth is... When Steve entered the house he said he wanted to be treated like everyone else, but he took the role of Baron and Hero as if he deserved it. I have sympathy for all amputees and am in awe at the strength of character to overcome it. (i am a nurse and have seen some sights) I have respect for all the Armed Forces, but i do think we should see Steve as a HM , not as a disabled person, and i do not think he should win through a form of sympathy. One i find it very patronising, and for another it singles him out as being "different", and i find it very unfair on the others. It should be an equal playing field , so to speak.
FM
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I don't see why people can't just say (SOME on here do and I mentally thank them every time) "Oh Steve is getting on my nerves, I don't like him" instead of "Now, I know Steve is disabled, and it's nothing to do with him having no legs but he's getting on my nerves and I don't like him"
If it is any consolation Leccy I just see Steve as an oaf, who really is deeply unpleasant, sexually inappropriate and needs a good wash.
FM

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