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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by brisket:
It would be interest to find out scientifically, but I don`t know how on earth that could be done.
As it is, I think you can be rude at any age - old, young and in-between.
And you can be polite at any age.

I agree with you brisket but so many age-ist people posting on here which makes me

Oh my gosh I knew someone will come up with this .. I said I wasnt making a sweeping generalisation just what I have experienced which has been quite frequent.... Im in no way ageist matterfact I come from a culture where we respect our elders no matter what.

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:I think you will find that it isnt soley designated for ppl with pushchairs but also for people in wheelchairs - or at least the buses I use are - think yourself luck there are buses with steps which lower and special areas to accommodate pushchairs and wheelchairs cos its not that long ago that I was pushing a buggy with a baby in it and a toddler in tow aswell and I had to make do with a normal seat and fold the buggy up cos there was no way I could have got on the bus with it unfolded and the baby sat in it - but then Im over 40 and maybe Im one of these OLD people everybody is moaning about

Hi Zaylee.

I am 42, and personally, find the rudest people I experience ARE older, like 50-55 plus, but some over 40 to 50 can be a bit rude too. Even though I am 42, I am prepared to admit that older people are ruder than younger ones - (IN MY EXPERIENCE that is.)

As I said, the majority of people of ALL ages are fine, but out of the rude people *I* experience, the vast majority are over 50, and are female. But yes I agree that the sections on the bus are also for wheelchairs.

maybe young people arent rude to young people cos they are trying to impress them but dont care about being rude to older people cos they dont give a stuff about them - a friend of mine went into the cinema in tears the othe day - she is a little overwgt and some teenagers were mocking her - staring and pointing and sniggering behind their hands - she is a lovely person and managed to save face until she got into the darkened cinema where she was able to cry without drawing attention to herself. Ive experienced gross rudeness from every age group both male and female - you cannot generalise in my opinion

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:I think you will find that it isnt soley designated for ppl with pushchairs but also for people in wheelchairs - or at least the buses I use are - think yourself luck there are buses with steps which lower and special areas to accommodate pushchairs and wheelchairs cos its not that long ago that I was pushing a buggy with a baby in it and a toddler in tow aswell and I had to make do with a normal seat and fold the buggy up cos there was no way I could have got on the bus with it unfolded and the baby sat in it - but then Im over 40 and maybe Im one of these OLD people everybody is moaning about

Hi Zaylee.

I am 42, and personally, find the rudest people I experience ARE older, like 50-55 plus, but some over 40 to 50 can be a bit rude too. Even though I am 42, I am prepared to admit that older people are ruder than younger ones - (IN MY EXPERIENCE that is.)

As I said, the majority of people of ALL ages are fine, but out of the rude people *I* experience, the vast majority are over 50, and are female. But yes I agree that the sections on the bus are also for wheelchairs.

maybe young people arent rude to young people cos they are trying to impress them but dont care about being rude to older people cos they dont give a stuff about them - a friend of mine went into the cinema in tears the othe day - she is a little overwgt and some teenagers were mocking her - staring and pointing and sniggering behind their hands - she is a lovely person and managed to save face until she got into the darkened cinema where she was able to cry without drawing attention to herself. Ive experienced gross rudeness from every age group both male and female - you cannot generalise in my opinion

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

maybe young people arent rude to young people cos they are trying to impress them but dont care about being rude to older people cos they dont give a stuff about them - a friend of mine went into the cinema in tears the othe day - she is a little overwgt and some teenagers were mocking her - staring and pointing and sniggering behind their hands - she is a lovely person and managed to save face until she got into the darkened cinema where she was able to cry without drawing attention to herself. Ive experienced gross rudeness from every age group both male and female - you cannot generalise in my opinion

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maybe young people arent rude to young people cos they are trying to impress them but dont care about being rude to older people cos they dont give a stuff about them

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Originally posted by Trix-ster:

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maybe young people arent rude to young people cos they are trying to impress them but dont care about being rude to older people cos they dont give a stuff about them

You are generalising right there, after saying people shouldnt!
I am polite and respectable to everyone I meet no matter how old they are and not because I'm trying to impress, because I have manners.
I had an experience which made me quite upset on a bus a few years ago, I had recently (the month before) had spinal surgery which had left the muscles in my body weak, and I had a scar running down the side of my body which was quite tender. I got onto a bus which slowly filled up and as I was near the front. A couple in their 50/60's got onto the bus and came and stood next to me and my friend, and it became apparent they wanted out seat so I stood up, as I did the gentleman tutted and said something like "About time! Youngsters these days!!!". Now I was in a lot of pain and not feeling too great standing on a packed bus with people pushing past to get out but I left it, my friend on the other hand went mental- she tried politely explaining to the man that I had had an operation and was in pain, but after he responded that he didn't care, it didnt look like I was in pain and he couldn't see a scar, she lifted up my top to expose it in all its glory, and told him to eff off. He went bright red, and turned away. About 10 people on the bus offered me their seat though

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by Trix-ster:

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maybe young people arent rude to young people cos they are trying to impress them but dont care about being rude to older people cos they dont give a stuff about them

You are generalising right there, after saying people shouldnt!
I am polite and respectable to everyone I meet no matter how old they are and not because I'm trying to impress, because I have manners.
I had an experience which made me quite upset on a bus a few years ago, I had recently (the month before) had spinal surgery which had left the muscles in my body weak, and I had a scar running down the side of my body which was quite tender. I got onto a bus which slowly filled up and as I was near the front. A couple in their 50/60's got onto the bus and came and stood next to me and my friend, and it became apparent they wanted out seat so I stood up, as I did the gentleman tutted and said something like "About time! Youngsters these days!!!". Now I was in a lot of pain and not feeling too great standing on a packed bus with people pushing past to get out but I left it, my friend on the other hand went mental- she tried politely explaining to the man that I had had an operation and was in pain, but after he responded that he didn't care, it didnt look like I was in pain and he couldn't see a scar, she lifted up my top to expose it in all its glory, and told him to eff off. He went bright red, and turned away. About 10 people on the bus offered me their seat though

Your friend sounds great, knows how to get a result

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
I'm lucky to have some lovely elderly people living round me, my neighbour who adores my dog (which means she has wonderful taste) particularly because she used to breed rough collies and always checked I was ok after I had been ill, a nice man down the road with a beautiful giant schnauzer called Cassie, he never minds stopping to let me fuss over her and remembers when we last spoke and catches me up on dog news, and another elderly man who owns a collie and always stops to let me say hello. However I have noted that the elderly seem to be the ones that never say thankyou or help me when I need it. I don't mind them cutting in front of me but I like them to say something that lets me know they noticed, not necessarily a thankyou. And they tend to 'accidently' forget to pay for things a lot.

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:
you mean they steal things - Im shocked - what a horrible thing to say

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by Trix-ster:

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maybe young people arent rude to young people cos they are trying to impress them but dont care about being rude to older people cos they dont give a stuff about them

You are generalising right there, after saying people shouldnt!

and by telling him to eff off she then put herself on the same level of rudeness
I am polite and respectable to everyone I meet no matter how old they are and not because I'm trying to impress, because I have manners.
I had an experience which made me quite upset on a bus a few years ago, I had recently (the month before) had spinal surgery which had left the muscles in my body weak, and I had a scar running down the side of my body which was quite tender. I got onto a bus which slowly filled up and as I was near the front. A couple in their 50/60's got onto the bus and came and stood next to me and my friend, and it became apparent they wanted out seat so I stood up, as I did the gentleman tutted and said something like "About time! Youngsters these days!!!". Now I was in a lot of pain and not feeling too great standing on a packed bus with people pushing past to get out but I left it, my friend on the other hand went mental- she tried politely explaining to the man that I had had an operation and was in pain, but after he responded that he didn't care, it didnt look like I was in pain and he couldn't see a scar, she lifted up my top to expose it in all its glory, and told him to eff off. He went bright red, and turned away. About 10 people on the bus offered me their seat though

Your friend sounds great, knows how to get a result

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Originally posted by Trix-ster:

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maybe young people arent rude to young people cos they are trying to impress them but dont care about being rude to older people cos they dont give a stuff about them

You are generalising right there, after saying people shouldnt!
I am polite and respectable to everyone I meet no matter how old they are and not because I'm trying to impress, because I have manners.
I had an experience which made me quite upset on a bus a few years ago, I had recently (the month before) had spinal surgery which had left the muscles in my body weak, and I had a scar running down the side of my body which was quite tender. I got onto a bus which slowly filled up and as I was near the front. A couple in their 50/60's got onto the bus and came and stood next to me and my friend, and it became apparent they wanted out seat so I stood up, as I did the gentleman tutted and said something like "About time! Youngsters these days!!!". Now I was in a lot of pain and not feeling too great standing on a packed bus with people pushing past to get out but I left it, my friend on the other hand went mental- she tried politely explaining to the man that I had had an operation and was in pain, but after he responded that he didn't care, it didnt look like I was in pain and he couldn't see a scar, she lifted up my top to expose it in all its glory, and told him to eff off. He went bright red, and turned away. About 10 people on the bus offered me their seat though

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
I'm lucky to have some lovely elderly people living round me, my neighbour who adores my dog (which means she has wonderful taste) particularly because she used to breed rough collies and always checked I was ok after I had been ill, a nice man down the road with a beautiful giant schnauzer called Cassie, he never minds stopping to let me fuss over her and remembers when we last spoke and catches me up on dog news, and another elderly man who owns a collie and always stops to let me say hello. However I have noted that the elderly seem to be the ones that never say thankyou or help me when I need it. I don't mind them cutting in front of me but I like them to say something that lets me know they noticed, not necessarily a thankyou. And they tend to 'accidently' forget to pay for things a lot.

you mean they steal things - Im shocked - what a horrible thing to say

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
I'm lucky to have some lovely elderly people living round me, my neighbour who adores my dog (which means she has wonderful taste) particularly because she used to breed rough collies and always checked I was ok after I had been ill, a nice man down the road with a beautiful giant schnauzer called Cassie, he never minds stopping to let me fuss over her and remembers when we last spoke and catches me up on dog news, and another elderly man who owns a collie and always stops to let me say hello. However I have noted that the elderly seem to be the ones that never say thankyou or help me when I need it. I don't mind them cutting in front of me but I like them to say something that lets me know they noticed, not necessarily a thankyou. And they tend to 'accidently' forget to pay for things a lot.

you mean they steal things - Im shocked - what a horrible thing to say

It's a horrible thing to say that a certain age group tends to steal things? Isn't that what most people do with teenagers? I merely meant that elderly people tend to set off the alarms a lot more than others and then say they forgot and that I find this a little too convenient. Also friends that work in retail have noticed this and also commented they rarely ever get charged.

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
I'm lucky to have some lovely elderly people living round me, my neighbour who adores my dog (which means she has wonderful taste) particularly because she used to breed rough collies and always checked I was ok after I had been ill, a nice man down the road with a beautiful giant schnauzer called Cassie, he never minds stopping to let me fuss over her and remembers when we last spoke and catches me up on dog news, and another elderly man who owns a collie and always stops to let me say hello. However I have noted that the elderly seem to be the ones that never say thankyou or help me when I need it. I don't mind them cutting in front of me but I like them to say something that lets me know they noticed, not necessarily a thankyou. And they tend to 'accidently' forget to pay for things a lot.

you mean they steal things - Im shocked - what a horrible thing to say

It's a horrible thing to say that a certain age group tends to steal things? Isn't that what most people do with teenagers? I merely meant that elderly people tend to set off the alarms a lot more than others and then say they forgot and that I find this a little too convenient. Also friends that work in retail have noticed this and also commented they rarely ever get charged.

I dont work in a shop but I do work with the public - I have never had a problem with elderly people trying to wriggle out of paying what they owe - quite the reverse. Youngsters usually are OK about paying aswell but the middle aged middle class love a good old argument and even if they only owe coppers they will swear that they dont owe a bean

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by brisket:
It would be interest to find out scientifically, but I don`t know how on earth that could be done.
As it is, I think you can be rude at any age - old, young and in-between.
And you can be polite at any age.

I agree with you brisket but so many age-ist people posting on here which makes me

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:
I disagree - I think there are many age- ist generalisations in this thread and I quote some of them below

"They always jump the queue when Im infront, walk past the door that I hold for them without a thank you, and even shout at me when I try to help them pack their shopping in tesco"

"elderly feckers sharpen their elbows before leaving the house"

"They do think they deserve the royal treatment"

"they are rude, they jump queues and they shove you out of the way in supermarkets, when you are looking at something, and they can be very obnoxious and arrogant"

"The older people I seem always seem to complain when mothers bring their pushchairs on the Bus "

"The narky older individuals seem to have a self righteous sense of entitlement"

if these arent age-ist generalisations then I dunno what is

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by brisket:
It would be interest to find out scientifically, but I don`t know how on earth that could be done.
As it is, I think you can be rude at any age - old, young and in-between.
And you can be polite at any age.

I agree with you brisket but so many age-ist people posting on here which makes me

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:
To be honest pretty-cocoa-eyes, I find the older generation (usually 50-55+) MUCH ruder than the younger generation. I don't know why it is, but they are rude, they jump queues and they shove you out of the way in supermarkets, when you are looking at something, and they can be very obnoxious and arrogant.. I find younger people much more polite. Teenagers can be a bit rowdy in their groups, but the vast majority of them are polite and pleasant (to me anyway...)

Women are much ruder and more arrogant than men IMO. I get men being rather polite to me; men of all ages... but women have a tendency to be ruder. Not ALL women of course, but for every rude man, there are 5 rude women. Although I have to say, 90% of people are OK on the whole.

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Originally posted by Heartache:

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:
To be honest pretty-cocoa-eyes, I find the older generation (usually 50-55+) MUCH ruder than the younger generation. I don't know why it is, but they are rude, they jump queues and they shove you out of the way in supermarkets, when you are looking at something, and they can be very obnoxious and arrogant.. I find younger people much more polite. Teenagers can be a bit rowdy in their groups, but the vast majority of them are polite and pleasant (to me anyway...)

Women are much ruder and more arrogant than men IMO. I get men being rather polite to me; men of all ages... but women have a tendency to be ruder. Not ALL women of course, but for every rude man, there are 5 rude women. Although I have to say, 90% of people are OK on the whole.

Blimey l thought you were talking pensioners, not really old like me (54). Although l would like to say as one of the oldies, l'm usually the one holding open doors and always saying please and thank you. And experience rudeness from all ages in return. My family were brought up with a firm belief of P's and Q's and as such it comes as natural as breathing to us. However my sister in law and now my nephew, never say thank you.

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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Originally posted by Heartache:

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:
To be honest pretty-cocoa-eyes, I find the older generation (usually 50-55+) MUCH ruder than the younger generation. I don't know why it is, but they are rude, they jump queues and they shove you out of the way in supermarkets, when you are looking at something, and they can be very obnoxious and arrogant.. I find younger people much more polite. Teenagers can be a bit rowdy in their groups, but the vast majority of them are polite and pleasant (to me anyway...)

Women are much ruder and more arrogant than men IMO. I get men being rather polite to me; men of all ages... but women have a tendency to be ruder. Not ALL women of course, but for every rude man, there are 5 rude women. Although I have to say, 90% of people are OK on the whole.

Blimey l thought you were talking pensioners, not really old like me (54). Although l would like to say as one of the oldies, l'm usually the one holding open doors and always saying please and thank you. And experience rudeness from all ages in return. My family were brought up with a firm belief of P's and Q's and as such it comes as natural as breathing to us. However my sister in law and now my nephew, never say thank you.

I even say thankyou to my kettle when it boils.

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:
you mean they steal things - Im shocked - what a horrible thing to say

Oh! Hello to another familiar face

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Originally posted by tupps:
When I get older I plan to be incredibly surly and ram people with my zimmer frame.

WHAT!!?!

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by tupps:
When I get older I plan to be incredibly surly and ram people with my zimmer frame.

WHAT!!?!

And mutter about the younger generation and how they're too slow?

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by tupps:
When I get older I plan to be incredibly surly and ram people with my zimmer frame.

WHAT!!?!

And mutter about the younger generation and how they're too slow?

Yes.. but I won't mutter because I'll be as deaf as a post and not aware of how LOUD I'M SPEAKING.

I can't wait..

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by tupps:
When I get older I plan to be incredibly surly and ram people with my zimmer frame.

WHAT!!?!

And mutter about the younger generation and how they're too slow?

Yes.. but I won't mutter because I'll be as deaf as a post and not aware of how LOUD I'M SPEAKING.

I can't wait..

I feel sorry for anyone who encounters you.