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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

Hahaha! You're a centre-leftie! I knew you weren't as right wing as you thought you were. The vast majority of people aren't what they think they are. It just goes to show how confused the political system has become.

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.44

*goes off to Google Dalai Lama*

I'm with you just slightly inbetween Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela !

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Originally posted by Perones:
pmsl all these DM readers are real softies really

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:




you're a leftie

Noooooooooooooooo I can't be. The chart is wrong

well look at your dot, firmly in the red, should be in the blue, the more in the blue the better, my dot is around where maggie is yours is closer to stalin.

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
I've edited my post now LL, as I have said before I am easily confused and printed the wrong graphy thing. Have printed the right one now and it shows me to the left of centre, which considering I read the Daily Mail shows, I suppose, that its readers can remain unbiased

My little red dot was a tad further up than yours

I posted the wrong chart

Hahaha! You're a centre-leftie! I knew you weren't as right wing as you thought you were. The vast majority of people aren't what they think they are. It just goes to show how confused the political system has become.

or it could show the left bias of the system to make people think they could vote for a leftward leaning candidate.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Perones:
pmsl all these DM readers are real softies really

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Libertarian leftie here. Thank god for that. What if I found out I'd been a secret Tory for all these years?

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Originally posted by Perones:


*sings* liverpool lass is a tree-hugger! liverpool lass is....

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:




you're a leftie

Noooooooooooooooo I can't be. The chart is wrong

well look at your dot, firmly in the red, should be in the blue, the more in the blue the better, my dot is around where maggie is yours is closer to stalin.

I'm in the green, please sir does that mean I have to vote for the green party?

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Perones:


*sings* liverpool lass is a tree-hugger! liverpool lass is....

Shurrup you

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Libertarian leftie here. Thank god for that. What if I found out I'd been a secret Tory for all these years?

Weeeeeellllll! I've turned out to be a libertarian leftie and I've voted Tory for years, sooooo, I reckon that must make you a closet Tory!! Oh Yeahhhhh

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
I'm a libertarian leftie.

Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05

I'm somewhere between the Dalai Lama & Nelson Mandella apparently.

My results were very similar to yours

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36

I'm shoulder to shoulder with Gandhi, and as we read very different newspapers (you and me that is not me and Gandhi!) I think that may prove that we can make judgements that are not solely influenced by our choice of reading material

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
hooray..i'm near to nelson mandela

i'm happy with that

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

the communist terrorist or the elder statesman?

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
hooray..i'm near to nelson mandela

i'm happy with that

the question is which nelson mandella?

the communist terrorist or the elder statesman?

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

the communist terrorist or the elder statesman?

Oooh you've gone and done it now

*runs*

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Libertarian leftie here. Thank god for that. What if I found out I'd been a secret Tory for all these years?

Weeeeeellllll! I've turned out to be a libertarian leftie and I've voted Tory for years, sooooo, I reckon that must make you a closet Tory!! Oh Yeahhhhh

it does seem that when it shows liberal leftie it does mean tory, so i guess we should welcome capt marbles as a fellow tory

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Libertarian leftie here. Thank god for that. What if I found out I'd been a secret Tory for all these years?

Weeeeeellllll! I've turned out to be a libertarian leftie and I've voted Tory for years, sooooo, I reckon that must make you a closet Tory!! Oh Yeahhhhh

it does seem that when it shows liberal leftie it does mean tory, so i guess we should welcome capt marbles as a fellow tory

I can see that following this thread we are going to have to have a whole new political classification system for this forum, what fun.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Libertarian leftie here. Thank god for that. What if I found out I'd been a secret Tory for all these years?

Weeeeeellllll! I've turned out to be a libertarian leftie and I've voted Tory for years, sooooo, I reckon that must make you a closet Tory!! Oh Yeahhhhh

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:


I'm in the green, please sir does that mean I have to vote for the green party?

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
I'm a libertarian leftie.

Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05

I'm somewhere between the Dalai Lama & Nelson Mandella apparently.

My results were very similar to yours

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36

I'm shoulder to shoulder with Gandhi, and as we read very different newspapers (you and me that is not me and Gandhi!) I think that may prove that we can make judgements that are not solely influenced by our choice of reading material

I really don't think you've understood what I was saying about bias in newspapers at all so I think we'll just leave the subject there thanks.

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Originally posted by squiggle:
My OH has just done this test as well and although his dot is a little further up (very near yours LL and I think yours QOTHT) his is just as far over to the left as mine, and we both vote Conservative. Great idea for the test by the way Queen of the High Teas, be interesting to get the whole of the forum to take the test.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
I'm a libertarian leftie.

Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05

I'm somewhere between the Dalai Lama & Nelson Mandella apparently.

My results were very similar to yours

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36

I'm shoulder to shoulder with Gandhi, and as we read very different newspapers (you and me that is not me and Gandhi!) I think that may prove that we can make judgements that are not solely influenced by our choice of reading material

I really don't think you've understood what I was saying about bias in newspapers at all so I think we'll just leave the subject there thanks.

I think I did understand what you were saying and since I read the Daily Mail (which has a right wing basis according to some) and watch the news on BBC which I know has a strong left-wing bias, then one probably cancels out t'other and leaves me well-balanced.

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Originally posted by squiggle:
I think I did understand what you were saying and since I read the Daily Mail (which has a right wing basis according to some) and watch the news on BBC which I know has a strong left-wing bias, then one probably cancels out t'other and leaves me well-balanced.

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
My OH has just done this test as well and although his dot is a little further up (very near yours LL and I think yours QOTHT) his is just as far over to the left as mine, and we both vote Conservative. Great idea for the test by the way Queen of the High Teas, be interesting to get the whole of the forum to take the test.

I did the test when I was studying politics at college. I had lost interest in politics in the 90's and my mother in law almost bullied me into believing I must be a conservative although I generally voted Lib Dem. It wasn't until I studied politics academically that I started to understand it properly. Our system doesn't reflect what is actually meant by left and right wing any more. All of the major parties are centrist. People make assumptions about their political views without understanding what informs them. I lived in Doncaster for a few years and people used to say you could put a red ribbon on a monkey and people would vote for it. I think that sort of political inculcation is a fundamental cause of what's gone wrong with our political system. Tories are now pro-NHS, Labour are now pro-capitalism. It's a fact that the majority of people in this country don't vote in the way that reflects their own moral or socio-economic beliefs. That's a bizarre state of affairs isn't it. I'm a liberal leftie and know why I am. But it doesn't follow that I will vote Labour in the election. I know I won't vote conservative because I fundamentally disagree with their underlying policies, however, I do understand that the Tories have sought to appease the liberal-left with certain policies, just as Labour have sought to appease the liberal-right with some of theirs. This thread wasn't supposed to be about bashing any ideological viewpoints, just about enlightening people as to the reality of their own convictions.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
I think I did understand what you were saying and since I read the Daily Mail (which has a right wing basis according to some) and watch the news on BBC which I know has a strong left-wing bias, then one probably cancels out t'other and leaves me well-balanced.

Or one could use the terms objective and subjective.
The very objective nature of BBC political reporting is structural and thus in some way a left wing approach. But Nick Robinson would bash you if you referred to him as left wing. He's a Tory.
Whereas the Daily Mail is subjective. It doesn't take politics very seriously, and there is no reason why it should.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
My OH has just done this test as well and although his dot is a little further up (very near yours LL and I think yours QOTHT) his is just as far over to the left as mine, and we both vote Conservative. Great idea for the test by the way Queen of the High Teas, be interesting to get the whole of the forum to take the test.

I did the test when I was studying politics at college. I had lost interest in politics in the 90's and my mother in law almost bullied me into believing I must be a conservative although I generally voted Lib Dem. It wasn't until I studied politics academically that I started to understand it properly. Our system doesn't reflect what is actually meant by left and right wing any more. All of the major parties are centrist. People make assumptions about their political views without understanding what informs them. I lived in Doncaster for a few years and people used to say you could put a red ribbon on a monkey and people would vote for it. I think that sort of political inculcation is a fundamental cause of what's gone wrong with our political system. Tories are now pro-NHS, Labour are now pro-capitalism. It's a fact that the majority of people in this country don't vote in the way that reflects their own moral or socio-economic beliefs. That's a bizarre state of affairs isn't it. I'm a liberal leftie and know why I am. But it doesn't follow that I will vote Labour in the election. I know I won't vote conservative because I fundamentally disagree with their underlying policies, however, I do understand that the Tories have sought to appease the liberal-left with certain policies, just as Labour have sought to appease the liberal-right with some of theirs. This thread wasn't supposed to be about bashing any ideological viewpoints, just about enlightening people as to the reality of their own convictions.

And I have found it a very interesting read. But I think some practical considerations enter into this whole political choice thing. For instance I would have a great deal of trouble voting for a Labour government in view of one practical consideration; they cannot successfully run an economy without running it into the ground. I have voted now in many elections and lived through successive administrations of Labour and Conservative and that is my conclusion.

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:


Fair enough, I understand that you are not a labour supporter, but I don't understand why that means you are a Tory by default though.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I did this a few years back and I think that I came out near the Gandhi.
I'll have another go shortly.

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Originally posted by china:
that was great cheers queenie

OH did it-shes like ghandi

i did it-im not like ghandi

but its sorta becoming clearer now

thanks again

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Originally posted by electric6:

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Originally posted by china:
that was great cheers queenie

OH did it-shes like ghandi

i did it-im not like ghandi

but its sorta becoming clearer now

thanks again

Take a look at the link I posted China, that will show you which party/parties best represent your views...of course the minority parties aren't there, just the big uns...but it does make it easier to understand stuff.