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Bottom line here, did that prank call help that nurse recover from whatever was bothering her in her mind before, or did it just make things feel so much worse for her?

 

Would she have taken her life in the future, who knows, would she have taken her life on the day she did without that prank call happening, not a chance.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Bottom line here, did that prank call help that nurse recover from whatever was bothering her in her mind before, or did it just make things feel so much worse for her?

 

Would she have taken her life in the future, who knows, would she have taken her life on the day she did without that prank call happening, not a chance.

Vids maybe in time we'll learn what her state of mind was before the prank call, atm we don't truly know what triggered the action she took. I really hope the truth comes to light for everyone concerned.

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Bottom line here, did that prank call help that nurse recover from whatever was bothering her in her mind before, or did it just make things feel so much worse for her?

 

Would she have taken her life in the future, who knows, would she have taken her life on the day she did without that prank call happening, not a chance.

Vids maybe in time we'll learn what her state of mind was before the prank call, atm we don't truly know what triggered the action she took. I really hope the truth comes to light for everyone concerned.

I agree about the fact we dont know what was going on in her mind, maybe we'll never know as it's personal for her family and none of our business.

 

BUT,  do you really think she still would have taken her life on the day she did without that prank call happening?   IMO, I doubt it.

Videostar

After mulling over this dreadful case for a long while i have to conclude that in all honesty ... no one is to blame.

Saying that is not popular cos it leaves us with no one to justifiably hate.

 

Those involved had no way of knowing the devastation their seemingly innocent behaviour has caused.

 

From William and Kate who possibly voiced their displeasure.

To the Monarchy who may have complained.

The hospital who were just like any other company who would stamp on staff who made a big mistake.

The DJ's who couldn't possibly have known the consequences from yet another 'innocent' prank.

To the nurse herself - who most probably in a fit of sheer terror forgot the consequences of leaving her children without a mother.

 

Its a tradgedy which ever way you look at it - made all the worse by the judegemental leaving comments without really knowing the whole truth (me included).

Comments that one day may be read by Jacintha's children.

Saint
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Bottom line here, did that prank call help that nurse recover from whatever was bothering her in her mind before, or did it just make things feel so much worse for her?

 

Would she have taken her life in the future, who knows, would she have taken her life on the day she did without that prank call happening, not a chance.

Vids maybe in time we'll learn what her state of mind was before the prank call, atm we don't truly know what triggered the action she took. I really hope the truth comes to light for everyone concerned.

I agree about the fact we dont know what was going on in her mind, maybe we'll never know as it's personal for her family and none of our business.

 

BUT,  do you really think she still would have taken her life on the day she did without that prank call happening?   IMO, I doubt it.

Because of the circumstances, and timing, I agree it's hard for many of us on the outside to believe she wouldn't have ended her life without the situation that suddenly became part of her life, and because of the speculation is why the truth needs to be found out as to why she took such drastic action. Not we the public have the right to know but her family and the dj's do as it affects their lives, not ours

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by frodo:

night Ells good to agree to disagree  

 

we are all on the same page x 

 

Kaffy Baffy I have had my fill of this story ..if you want It to be right fair enough ...to sad for me to debate anymore 

 

night all  peace and god wishes to all 

  I don't know what you're talking about?  I don't 'want' anything to be right.    All I'd like to see is two innocent people who will have a horrible thing to live with for the rest of their lives not to be demonised.     Did what happened contribute to what she did? Maybe, probably.   Did they intend that?  Of course not.   Was it the only reason she did it?   I seriously doubt it.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 

They are sorry that they are getting alot of abuse, not about the fallout of their prank.

 

 

I don't believe that for one moment, no doubt they regret it, wish they could turn the clock back and it had never happened, but they have to live with the consequences of a prank that ended up in tragedy... they were silly but not evil, how can you think they are not sorry? 

It's just my opinion Dame,  im not saying they aren't sorry that someone died (and im not saying that is totally their fault) but I do think that in these situations these people do tend to say anything to get them out of trouble.

the trouble with your opinions vids, is that if these two dj's were vacuous bimbos with their tits hanging out, your opinion  would probably be entirely different.

 

jacksonb

A memorial fund for the family of the dead nurse who was the victim of the royal hoax call has been set up by the radio station responsible for the prank.

 

Southern Cross Austereo, the parent company of radio station 2Day FM, said the remainder of the profits for 2012 should go to a memorial fund to benefit Jacintha Saldhana's family.

 

The sum is expected to amount to AUS$500,000 (ÂĢ326,000).

 

 

It has also cancelled its Christmas party, saying it would be "inappropriate" to go ahead with the celebrations, and would instead donate the money it would have spent to charity.

 

Rhys Holleran, SCA's chief executive, said: "We are very sorry for what has happened. It is a terrible tragedy and our thoughts continue to be with the family.

"We hope that by contributing to a memorial fund we can help to provide the Saldanha family with the support they need at this very difficult time."

 

A post-mortem examination on Ms Saldanha, who initially answered the prank call made to the hospital treating the Duchess of Cambridge, is being held today.

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1023...-320k-to-family-fund

MrsH
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Ells:
OMG I didn't make that writing all shouty and big!  Sorry folks

Same thing happened to me here is the advice given.
that sort of error can easily be sorted if you edit then WYSIWYG and remove the tags.
Clear as mud ....good Luck
WTH is WYSIWYG?
No clue


Toggle WYSIWYG if at the bottom of each posting box

 

 if you click on it and go in you can edit and remove things like remove the tags.</span></strong> as Fluffy posted ^^^^ somewhere in another post 

MrsH
Originally Posted by jacksonb:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 

They are sorry that they are getting alot of abuse, not about the fallout of their prank.

 

 

I don't believe that for one moment, no doubt they regret it, wish they could turn the clock back and it had never happened, but they have to live with the consequences of a prank that ended up in tragedy... they were silly but not evil, how can you think they are not sorry? 

It's just my opinion Dame,  im not saying they aren't sorry that someone died (and im not saying that is totally their fault) but I do think that in these situations these people do tend to say anything to get them out of trouble.

the trouble with your opinions vids, is that if these two dj's were vacuous bimbos with their tits hanging out, your opinion  would probably be entirely different.

 

One of them looks like a bimbo and im still not on her side.

Videostar

Daily Star

BOSSES at the radio station whose prank call led to a nurse at Princess Kate’s hospital killing herself could be jailed.

Lawyers in Australia said managers could be prosecuted because they did not get the hospital’s permission to air the recorded conversation.

 

They face a fine of up to ÂĢ30,000 or even five years in prison if convicted.

 

Jacintha Saldanha, 46, was found dead after the storm over the call she transferred to the Duchess of Cambridge’s ward at King Edward VII’s Hospital in London.

 

She left a suicide note, it is believed. Anger at her death has turned on the “suits” who decided to broadcast the conversation.

 

It took place after Jacintha was duped into thinking she was passing on a call from the Queen.

 

 

Australians called for station bosses to stop hiding behind DJs Mel Greig and Michael Christian, who played the trick.

 

Radio host Amanda Blair said: “The blame must be put fairly and squarely  on the shoulders of the faceless men of radio.”

 

Producer Emily Mills and 2DayFM assistant producer Ben Harlum boasted before Jacintha’s death that they took part in the stunt.

 

Host Ray Hadley, of rival station 2GB in Sydney said of the DJs: “I don’t like the idea of this young bloke and this young girl being hung out to dry. Someone  in middle management, between them and the CEO, stuffed up.”

 

Calls grew yesterday for the hospital to do more to help Jacintha’s husband Benedict, 49, and children Junal, 16, and Lisha, 14, uncover what happened.

 

After meeting hospital chiefs, MP Keith Vaz said: “The family want to know everything.” PM  David Cameron backed him. The station’s owners are giving the family this month’s ÂĢ320,000 ad revenue.

 

Kate, 30, will not be with Prince William at tonight’s UK premiere of The Hobbit as she is thought to be sick again.

FM

What a readership grabbing headline that Mirror article is!!

 

i agree those who vetted and decided to air the recording should be held accountable rather than the actual DJ's but jail?

 

It's all too much about sensationalizing it all for ulterior motives now for my liking..... ffs a woman is dead! A mother of two children.... stop trying to grab readers and have a little heart fgs

Jen-Star
Originally Posted by Jenstar:

What a readership grabbing headline that Mirror article is!!

 

i agree those who vetted and decided to air the recording should be held accountable rather than the actual DJ's but jail?

 

It's all too much about sensationalizing it all for ulterior motives now for my liking..... ffs a woman is dead! A mother of two children.... stop trying to grab readers and have a little heart fgs

A less sensational article, making the same points:  http://www.scotsman.com/news/u...k-decision-1-2686264

 The Australian radio station behind the hoax phone call could face criminal charges for airing the conversation, legal experts said yesterday.

 

Last week’s prank was widely condemned days after it aired,following the death of the nurse who answered the phone and helped two DJs – Mel Greig and Michael Christian – get confidential information about the former Kate Middleton’s health. But when it comes to a potential criminal case, the question is not about the death; rather it is whether a private conversation was broadcast without the permission of the participants.

Those found guilty of such a violation could face prison. However, it remains unclear who at radio station 2DayFM or its parent company, Southern Cross Austereo, made the decision to air the call. The DJs have said executives made the decision, but a former 2DayFM host who orchestrated many pranks for the station said DJs were always involved.

Southern Cross Austereo has said the station had tried five times to contact the hospital, but privacy law expert Barbara McDonald said that could prove to be an inadequate defence. The New South Wales state Surveillance Devices Act prohibits the broadcast of recorded private conversations without participants’ permission, with violations punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to A$55,000 [$58,000].

Australian authorities have said lthey have been in contact with their London counterparts and are ready to assist them in any UK investigation.

 

I've got to say, I do think that there should be serious consequences for whoever made the decision that the story was more important than following the rules and getting permission to air the call. We heard so many stories during the Levison Enquiry, which showed the harmful effects that media intrusion can have on ordinary members of the public, who are suddenly thrust into the media spotlight. One family, whose daughter had been murdered, ended up then losing their son to suicide, due to the press behaving badly. The need to get people's permission before airing such things seems like a sensible rule, as only the person involved can truly know how it will affect them.

 

They didn't care about those involved, only the scoop, and, if they have broken a law, they should face the consequences, imo. 

 

 

Blizz'ard
Morrissey has slammed the  British royal family following the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha.
The  singer labelled Prince William and Kate "arrogant" in the aftermath of the King  Edward Hospital nurse's suspected suicide.
 
 
Nurse Jacintha  Saldanha was found dead last week after transferring a call in which Australian  DJs Mel Greig and Michael Christian pretended to be Queen Elizabeth II and  Prince Charles to gain medical details about the hospitalised Duchess of  Cambridge.
The former Smiths frontman called for the royal couple to show  remorse for the incident, and that the blame should not be solely placed on the  DJs.
He told New Zealand's 3News: "Even with the recent story  about the nurse killing herself in King Edward Hospital, there's no blame placed  on Kate Middleton, who was in the hospital as far as I could see for absolutely  no reason.
"She feels no shame about the death of this woman, she's  saying nothing about the death of this poor woman. The arrogance of the British  royals is staggering, absolutely staggering. And why it's allowed to be I really  don't know."
 
 
He added that the duchess's reported  morning sickness was not worth a hospital visit, saying: "Does she have a health  condition...? What is the health condition?
"I mean morning sickness  already? So much hoo haw and then suddenly as bright as a button as soon as this  poor woman dies she's out of hospital? It doesn't ring true.
"And I'm  sure the Palace and Clarence House put maximum pressure on this poor  receptionist and nurse, and of course that's kept away from the  press.
"I'm sure the British press hounded this poor woman to her death,  that's kept away. And by this time next week she'll be forgotten. And that's how  the British royals work."

Australian radio station  2Day FM have announced that they will  donate ad revenue to the family of Jacintha Saldanha.
Morrissey has  criticised the British royal family for many years, recently describing  Prince Harry as "an idiot".
He caused controversy earlier this year  by comparing  the London 2012 Olympics to Nazi Germany.

(DS)

FM

I agree that the radio station should face legal consequences if they didn't get permission to air the interview - as they should whether or not the nurses were affected afterwards.  Same rules would apply if it was a prank played on a on famous person.    That's as far as I think 'blame' should be laid.    

 

As for Jacintha's state of mind - I find it very strange that they say she came from a very close and loving family and yet she never even told them about the phone call.  

 

Kaffs
^^^ apropos saint's comments. The problem is that when they cease to be aloof the scratter press jump on 'em like a ton of bricks. Take Prince Harry ( please!)* He dressed up in a style that thousands of us have used for fancy dress in the last few decades. Suddenly it was tasteless. So next he didn't bother with clothes, taking part in an amusing completion in a style familiar to most of us. That was wrong too! He can't win. None of them can. * The old ones are the best.
Garage Joe

When I first heard about the prank call I thought it was very funny and wondered how on earth they had managed to get through?Obviously whoever took the call and was duped would feel really stupid, embarrassed and that they had failed to keep the privacy and confidentially of the royal family.To someone with a strong sense of duty and responsibility to have the worlds media reporting this mistake might have been completely overwhelming and so shameful that they could not bear it.

 

Thats how I see it.I feel sad about it but dont feel that anyone is to blame...its just very unfortunate.

Amythist

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