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 Hello pirate.

I certainly don't want them hounded out of their jobs and for anything to happen to them... revenge in my book is a no no

 

Try getting info at any hospital and Its almost impossible..she must have been convinced they where the real thing ...

 

so I agree with some of the things you say ,all I can think of is her children at

 Christmas   

                               frodo

FM
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

If the DJ's dont lose their jobs over this then what will they ever learn from this?  whatever happened to accountablity.

I honestly think losing their jobs is the last thing they're worried about at the moment.   Have you watched their interview? 

Yep, some great acting there.

 

I dont believe they are sorry at all.

Videostar

Hi Videostar

 

because they are the pawns in this..do you really think they thought this up ...time and time again the big cheeses get away with It ..no more publicity  from me...  did you see the website we are being played like a fiddle and I for one am opting  out of this Charade ... my only thoughts are with Jacinthas family ...sod the others .

 

FM
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 

They are sorry that they are getting alot of abuse, not about the fallout of their prank.

 

 

I don't believe that for one moment, no doubt they regret it, wish they could turn the clock back and it had never happened, but they have to live with the consequences of a prank that ended up in tragedy... they were silly but not evil, how can you think they are not sorry? 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 

They are sorry that they are getting alot of abuse, not about the fallout of their prank.

 

 

I don't believe that for one moment, no doubt they regret it, wish they could turn the clock back and it had never happened, but they have to live with the consequences of a prank that ended up in tragedy... they were silly but not evil, how can you think they are not sorry? 

It's just my opinion Dame,  im not saying they aren't sorry that someone died (and im not saying that is totally their fault) but I do think that in these situations these people do tend to say anything to get them out of trouble.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by moonie:

If these 2 dj's hadnt played such a stupid idiotic prank in the name of rating we wouldnt be talking about this tragedy now, would we?

We wouldn't be talking about it no, but that doesn't mean that nurse wouldn't have killed herself for some other reason at some other stage in her life.  They may have tipped her over the edge but I'm sure she had problems before all this....I just can't see how it would be her answer to something like this unless she already had stuff going on that she couldn't deal with.  As I also said before....she probably got hounded by the press in the time between the calls and her death so they also play a part in this.

You're right we dont know that the nurse wouldnt have killed herself at sometime in the future but we do know she did now. You're also right that we dont know what else was going on in her life. But she is dead now and may not have been but for this prank, that all i'm saying.

Moonie

Moonie...of course, we don't know that it WASN'T the cause of her suicide but I am saying we don't know it was either.  Either way,  it's such a tragedy for her family and I hope they are getting a lot of help.  I bet they ARE blaming the DJ's, as is perfectly natural when your loved one commits suicide.  You don't want to ever blame them and you will blame someone else until you realise that no-one made that decision for them....ultimately it was their decision in the end.  That's why I honestly think she had other things on her mind as, having experience with 3 suicides within my family/circle of close friends, I know there's usually an underlying long term problem and that it wasn't a spur of the moment thing for any of them and they had all tried it before.

 

The DJ's are just the public faces of all this.  Their bosses gave the green light and the media went overboard and we have NO idea how Jacinta's bosses reacted or whether she feared backlash from the public or even The Royal Family!  

Ells

What bloody infuriates me and thats swearing is that the nurse may have taken her life sometime in the future ...who says so is there any medical evidence ...whether we like It or not...who says she had medical issues

until I know the facts from the coroner I reserve my judgement on this ladies state of mind ...she may have taken her own life at anytime ....any evidence of this .. when I hear this from close friends and family and her doctor  I'll take note

 

then perhaps I may understand this                                        

FM
Originally Posted by frodo:

What bloody infuriates me and thats swearing is that the nurse may have taken her life sometime in the future ...who says so is there any medical evidence ...whether we like It or not...who says she had medical issues

until I know the facts from the coroner I reserve my judgement on this ladies state of mind ...she may have taken her own life at anytime ....any evidence of this .. when I hear this from close friends and family and her doctor  I'll take note

 

then perhaps I may understand this                                        

I'm speculating because I really hate to think that this one issue was awful enough for that woman to have thought that that was the only way she could handle it.  It would be even sadder to know that it was that one thing that pushed her to do it.

Ells
Originally Posted by frodo:

What bloody infuriates me and thats swearing is that the nurse may have taken her life sometime in the future ...who says so is there any medical evidence ...whether we like It or not...who says she had medical issues

until I know the facts from the coroner I reserve my judgement on this ladies state of mind ...she may have taken her own life at anytime ....any evidence of this .. when I hear this from close friends and family and her doctor  I'll take note

 

then perhaps I may understand this                                        

surely her reaction to what happened wasn't the normal reaction of an emotionally stable person though?     Everyone is assuming that she did it because of the phone call anyway... was there a note?     

Kaffs
Originally Posted by frodo:

and without offence to say someone may take their life in the future 

beggars belief ..

Frodo....I understand you are annoyed about what I'm saying but all I am pointing out is that we do not know her previous mental history and it is not too far fetched to say that someone who has killed themselves this week MIGHT have done it in future if they had not went through with it this week.  It's just speculation yes, but, to say this was the only event that caused her to do what she did, is also just speculation.

 

Ells
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by frodo:

What bloody infuriates me and thats swearing is that the nurse may have taken her life sometime in the future ...who says so is there any medical evidence ...whether we like It or not...who says she had medical issues

until I know the facts from the coroner I reserve my judgement on this ladies state of mind ...she may have taken her own life at anytime ....any evidence of this .. when I hear this from close friends and family and her doctor  I'll take note

 

then perhaps I may understand this                                        

surely her reaction to what happened wasn't the normal reaction of an emotionally stable person though?     Everyone is assuming that she did it because of the phone call anyway... was there a note?     

With respect to you we are talking about the royals ..the level of the news coverage..whatever you think of them ..the publicity ..the humiliation for her ..do you really think she wasn't told off ...in a flat on her own ..

and alone

FM
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by frodo:

and without offence to say someone may take their life in the future 

beggars belief ..

Frodo....I understand you are annoyed about what I'm saying but all I am pointing out is that we do not know her previous mental history and it is not too far fetched to say that someone who has killed themselves this week MIGHT have done it in future if they had not went through with it this week.  It's just speculation yes, but, to say this was the only event that caused her to do what she did, is also just speculation.

 

FM

no ells I am not annoyed just terribly saddened that someone felt so alone

that It came to this Jacintha was of Indian descent ..we could probably shrugged It off..working away from home in nurses quarters .

 Two children 14&16 a couple of weeks before Christmas on their own 

 think about It ...and of course on here we are entitled to our opinion 

you have yours  and I have mine

FM
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Ells:

OMG I didn't make that writing all shouty and big!  Sorry folks


Same thing happened to me here is the advice given.

that sort of error can easily be sorted if you edit then WYSIWYG and remove the tags.

Clear as mud ....good Luck

 

WTH is WYSIWYG?

No clue

FM
Originally Posted by frodo:

no ells I am not annoyed just terribly saddened that someone felt so alone

that It came to this Jacintha was of Indian descent ..we could probably shrugged It off..working away from home in nurses quarters .

 Two children 14&16 a couple of weeks before Christmas on their own 

 think about It ...and of course on here we are entitled to our opinion 

you have yours  and I have mine

You aren't alone in being saddened by all this and yes, the main people to think about are the children.    It's awful to lose anyone at any time of the year but to lose someone on the run up to xmas is very sad.

 

 

Ells
Originally Posted by frodo:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by frodo:

What bloody infuriates me and thats swearing is that the nurse may have taken her life sometime in the future ...who says so is there any medical evidence ...whether we like It or not...who says she had medical issues

until I know the facts from the coroner I reserve my judgement on this ladies state of mind ...she may have taken her own life at anytime ....any evidence of this .. when I hear this from close friends and family and her doctor  I'll take note

 

then perhaps I may understand this                                        

surely her reaction to what happened wasn't the normal reaction of an emotionally stable person though?     Everyone is assuming that she did it because of the phone call anyway... was there a note?     

With respect to you we are talking about the royals ..the level of the news coverage..whatever you think of them ..the publicity ..the humiliation for her ..do you really think she wasn't told off ...in a flat on her own ..

and alone

No, I don't think that she wasn't told off (despite what the hospital say)     I still say it's not a normal reaction - and why was she alone?    Why wasn't she staying in the family home?   Perhaps because she had to move away from them to find work, I'm not sure  There are so many possibilities - maybe money problems, relationship problems, we simply don't know - but if there were that could have contributed to her mental state.   I still say it was not a normal reaction if all else in her life was as it should be.    Perhaps it was the final straw... no harder to bear for the DJs, and no less sad a situation of course  

Kaffs

night Ells good to agree to disagree  

 

we are all on the same page x 

 

Kaffy Baffy I have had my fill of this story ..if you want It to be right fair enough ...to sad for me to debate anymore 

 

night all  peace and good wishes to all 

 

sorry my bad spelling what I meant is if you think that there were other things in her life thats all

FM
Last edited by Former Member

I saw the interview with the dj's and had a few feelings about it as I'm sure everyone did in however it personally came across to them. My overall feeling is how sad that just as one woman was experiencing the joy of becoming a Mother a stupid prank ocurred that no one could have forseen the tragic outcome and two children are mourning the loss of their Mother. This is a tragic story for all concerned and will affect their lives in many ways long term, especially Jacintha's family

Yellow Rose

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